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Would you date a girl who spent 1K on a handbag?
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:53 PM Author: contagious slippery stage place of business It seems extremely frivolous. If you have so much extra cash lying around, why not just donate it to the poor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556702) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:54 PM Author: Heady pistol Absolutely not. I would probably dump someone I was dating for a few months if she went and wasted $1000 on a bag too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556706) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:54 PM Author: contagious slippery stage place of business Why are some women so stupid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556709) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:55 PM Author: Heady pistol I don't know. The worst part is they know they are only trying to impress other shallow women with things like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556713) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:56 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner You are so stupid, there are so many designer bags that almost nobody would recognize that you were carrying most of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556726) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:47 AM Author: Smoky Bateful Turdskin Puppy and most people will assume you got it on Canal St. anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560132) |
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Date: April 24th, 2007 8:14 PM Author: disgusting bawdyhouse foreskin But then why bother getting it? It doesn't have better "performance" like a more expensive car. What exactly are you paying for? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7995563) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:35 AM Author: Aromatic dun nowag what's going to happen when your wife wants a $2500 bag 10 years from now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559826) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:36 AM Author: Heady pistol Not going to happen. Not all women are materialistic bitches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559834) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:50 AM Author: Aromatic dun nowag how does a woman who wants and can afford an expensive bag automically become a materialistic bitch? it's painfully clear you were not raised around successful people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559898) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:56 PM Author: Drab range Because I don't care that much about the poor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556723) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:57 PM Author: Heady pistol Thats not the issue. Your own preferences are fucked up if you'd prefer a fucking bag to something like airfare to France. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556732) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:58 PM Author: Drab range What if I can afford both?
(Or, more realistically for a biglaw associate, if I do not have the time to go to France.) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:09 PM Author: Heady pistol You don't have an infinite amount of money, you are going to have to make tradeoffs. Wasting your money on an overpriced bag shows me that your priorities are fucked up and I wouldn't want to waste any time on you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556817) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:11 PM Author: Drab range Certainly, I agree I do not have an unlimited amount of money.
It's just that you haven't done a great job illustrating what priorities should be more important. I could understand if a person placed a high value on something like charity, gave a large percentage of personal income away, and expected the same of others. But what makes liking fashion items more fucked up than liking other expensive consumer goods? What do you think I should be spending my money on that I'm apparently neglecting? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:38 PM Author: topaz effete boiling water famous landscape painting Fair enough. You're not entitled to a date with him either. Whatever arbitrary standard he wants to set up for dates is his business. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557010) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:42 PM Author: Drab range Oh, I'm not arguing that. He can insist on dating people with green hair if he'd like.
I just think that most of the people who have a problem with handbags but not other luxury items are unable to articulate why their luxuries are good and others are bad in any clear way. People who don't have luxuries are on much higher ground, but there aren't many of those in law school. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:46 PM Author: topaz effete boiling water famous landscape painting Why do you care about their subjective preference for certain goods? Why do you care about their subjective dislikes for certain goods? I doubt you spend your time "articulating in any clear way" why you make certain choices or why you dislike other choices. People have preferences. Unless you're selling handbags, I don't see why it would matter to you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557065) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:47 PM Author: Drab range Because they're using the preferences to label certain people as bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557072) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:55 PM Author: topaz effete boiling water famous landscape painting So what? Disagree, move on. It's not like they're trying to criminalize designer handbags. Are you that thin-skinned? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557134) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:13 PM Author: Drab range I am disagreeing, and will move on.
Can't you just disagree with those of us on this thread and move on? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:24 PM Author: topaz effete boiling water famous landscape painting Actually, I haven't disagreed with anyone in this thread. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557381) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:25 PM Author: Drab range You seem to disagree with my continued posting on this thread. If not, you can certainly move on to another thread... :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557387) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:26 PM Author: Drab range You seem to disagree with my continued posting on this thread. If not, you can certainly move on to another thread... :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557394) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:27 PM Author: stubborn floppy national chad You seem to disagree with my continued posting on this thread. If not, you can certainly move on to another thread... :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557402) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:31 AM Author: topaz effete boiling water famous landscape painting TITCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559815) |
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Date: April 24th, 2007 8:01 PM Author: Galvanic frozen area clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7995495) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:53 PM Author: Heady pistol The only thing that I own that I consider a luxery item is a watch that was given to me as a graduation present. When I have extra money it is spent primarily on travel and charity. I agree that there aren't many people in law school in similar situations, but that explains why law schools are full of douchebags who suffer from high rates of depression and alcoholism later in life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558022) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 8:28 AM Author: Drab range I consider travel a luxury good, but if you're giving more of your money to charity than you spend on that and other non-necessities I'd consider your opinions consistent.
Most people - both in law school and elsewhere - don't live like that. They have a right to date whoever they please, of course, but their insistence that spending $20,000 more on a car or $2,000 more on a television is morally superior isn't very convincing (it doesn't strike me as important that something contains more technology if that technology improves a good that's not necessary or improves it in ways that aren't necessary to its function). |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:36 AM Author: Snowy space No, it's perfectly consistent, actually. The rough rule of thumb is, the worse the wear on your wallet, the more steady your source of income (since you've needed a wallet longer and it contained an amount valuable enough not to misplace). A woman who buys a new designer handbag is probably new money. New money is filth.
That said, a woman who carries a classic handbag from ten years ago or so doesn't invite the same criticism. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:39 AM Author: Drab range I wasn't under the impression that sports cars and excessive expenditures on entertainment systems were considered traits of old money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559844) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:40 AM Author: Snowy space No, and those are appropriately looked down upon as well. Prestigious people snicker when they watch a sports car fly by.
That said, the new money buying the designer handbag is probably poorer than the new money buying the sports car. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:48 AM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse I can't believe I agree with you, given your moniker and all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559882) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:55 AM Author: Snowy space In those troublesome times when you're torn between the moniker and the man, there's nothing else you can do but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ODmiLRr4SI |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:56 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner And what if it's a style that you can't tell if it was purchased yesterday, 10 years ago or 40 years ago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560166) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:03 PM Author: Snowy space In most cases, this means classic taste and I wouldn't care. But that's very rare. Most girls out buying $1000 "designer" bags are looking to fit in with the latest trend. Hence, the prejudice against these status seekers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560200) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:08 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Lovely, both bags I have in that price range have been manufactured for decades. I guess I'm all set. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560226) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:34 AM Author: Aromatic dun nowag because the poor have a track record of wasting whatever money they ever get their hands on. at least this way, she's happy with her new bag. poors would just waste the money and it would filter back to the top, so she's really just cutting out the middle man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559825) |
Date: February 6th, 2007 8:54 PM Author: ultramarine judgmental heaven Sure, she wants to look good.
Better that, than looking like a scumbag in public |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:55 PM Author: contagious slippery stage place of business Looking good has nothing to do with spending 1K on a handbag
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:55 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Oh here we go. What about a guy who spends 75 k on a car? A guy who buys all sorts of video games? Expensive electronics? Expensive watches etc? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556721) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:58 PM Author: contagious slippery stage place of business 1. A car is different from a useless handbag. 2. Do video games retail for 1K? 3. Electronics have a purpose. You can enjoy an I-Pod, computer etc. A handbag has no function. 4. I don't have an expensive watch. But even still an expensive watch is more worth it than purses that cost 1K |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:00 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner How is a BMW different from a civic? Thwy serve the same purpose, one is just fancier.
I'm sure plenty of guys own 1k worth of games and systems.
Why is a watch more, now that makes no sense at all? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:02 PM Author: Drab range A handbag has function - it holds all of your crap.
After a certain level, any increases in price are purely based on aesthetic appeal, but you'll find the same thing with cars and watches and most other goods. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:08 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio cars provide more than just aesthetic appeal though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556811) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:09 PM Author: Drab range "after a certain level"
I'm not talking about upgrading from a 10-year-old wreck to something decent. I'm talking about the difference between a reliable family sedan and a sports car. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:10 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio If you're a car enthusiast there's a huge difference between a sports car and a family sedan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556828) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:14 PM Author: Drab range If you're a handbag enthusiast there's a huge difference between a designer bag and a cheaper one.
Why does the car enthusiast's preference get a pass while the other does not? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:16 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio I never said there wasn't a huge difference between a high and low end bag, just calling you out for saying the only difference between cars is aesthetic appeal and that there's no big difference between a family sedan and sports car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556875) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:19 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Even if there is a quality difference that exists with bags. Leather quality, stiching, if it's hand made etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556897) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:23 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio I'm not denying this, I was only trying to make a point that the difference between a family sedan and high end sports car is huge and more than just aesthetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556930) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:19 PM Author: Drab range Aesthetic may have been too narrow of a term. But there's some sort of very personal, impractical level of pleasure that people get out of certain high end items. The sports car isn't going to be any better at the tasks most people expect from their cars, and in some cases is going to be worse at them. People get them for that thing I described in the second sentence - I can't think of a good term for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556900) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:21 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio Indeed, aesthetic was a narrow term. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556909) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:31 PM Author: red cruise ship feces jesus law students are so fucking annoying. you knew what she meant in the first place but you insist on nitpicking her words. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560330) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:21 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio I'm not a law student dood, Rowan needs to be called out like everyone else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560661) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:11 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Except that even a $20 bag holds your crap. I've seen tasteful bags made of quality material for $200-300. Personally, I think expensive watches are retarded.
That's not the same thing with cars. You usually get something for the extra money: better comfort, amenity, and speed, which is handy when you're merging in highway, etc.
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:17 PM Author: Drab range You get a higher level of design and style, and greater aesthetic appeal. Tasteful is in the eye of the beholder, after all.
Midlevel cars provide perfectly reasonable levels of all of the things. In many cases, they're also more practical for daily use than little convertibles and require less maintenance. Seems like there's a much better argument for a handbag than a sports car. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:21 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Uh, it's much easier to argue that <mid-level> purses have a <reasonable levels> of all those things you mentioned + equal utility, than the same about mid-level cars vs. luxury cars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556915) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:24 PM Author: Drab range Not really, if you know anything about bags.
Especially since many luxury cars are worse at certain tasks than average cars, which should be taken into account. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:31 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Uh, no. A bag from a dollar store, in terms of utility, is an equal of a 5K Fendi bag. No car has this kind of markup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556961) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:33 PM Author: Drab range Look at how much these cars cost. Most of them will do a much worse job of transporting you to work than a Civic, as they aren't appropriate for many street conditions and probably require a great deal of time in the shop.
http://www.forbes.com/2002/03/04/0304feat.html |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:46 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Those are ten most expensive cars in the world. Almost no one buys them. You're a terrible flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557069) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:47 PM Author: Drab range Almost no one buys $5K handbags either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557076) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:51 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Apparently enough women buy $1K bags. That's still a much more drastic markup than cars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557106) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:52 PM Author: Drab range The lowest priced car on that list is $100K, which is not so extreme.
And it's a much higher number of dollars to buy a nice car than to buy a nice bag. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:58 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur What's really funny is ugly girls defending their nouveau riche spending habits in the name of aesthetics. For some reason, the majority of the truly wealthy people I've met, some of whom are attractive, live modestly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557163) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:12 PM Author: Drab range Why does my own attractiveness matter? The aesthetic preference is to look at pretty objects. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557273) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:14 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur I'm sure your BF has pointed out, at one time or another, that you like to argue pointlessly. The point, which you missed, was about the nouveau riche spending habits in the flimsy name of aesthetics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557294) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:16 PM Author: Drab range What about your nouveau riche spending habits in the name of taste buds? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557322) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:22 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur You must be really dumb if you think it's just about taste buds after I've explained it more than once.
Seriously, I'm sure your BF likes you fine or whatever most of the times, but I'm sure he despises you when you're in an argumentative mood. You must be really insecure about your intelligence. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:24 PM Author: Drab range Yes, you've referred to "atmosphere" and have said you're too lazy to cook the food yourself. Terribly noveau riche of you. Some of the wealthiest people I know almost always eat at home, after all... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557378) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:27 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Funny you say that, because I'm an excellent cook.
Your BF must be really desperate to date someone so insecure. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:30 PM Author: Drab range Then there's no reason for you not to cook at home. Create your own atmosphere for your guests. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557423) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:34 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Look at what you're doing. You're arguing points you know to be stupid, just because your horrible intellectual insecurity will not allow you to face the prospect of being wrong. It's almost certainly irritating to everyone who ever has to spend some time with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557449) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:43 PM Author: Transparent Motley Macaca will you please get over yourself? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557502) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:44 PM Author: Vivacious Sadistic Sanctuary wow, aksmit! you said something halfway mean... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557507) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:45 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur No way. I'm so awesome that sometimes I jump back so I can kiss myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557509) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:15 PM Author: Vivacious Sadistic Sanctuary I think handbags are more about status. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557302) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:17 PM Author: Drab range There's some of that too. But I'd think that men would understand that part of it a little better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557328) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:22 PM Author: Vivacious Sadistic Sanctuary Men only understand status as a means to fucking hotter women. This is why handbags don't compute. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557367) |
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Date: April 24th, 2007 8:15 PM Author: Bronze stock car resort http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=331077 http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=617425&mc=12&forum_id=2 http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=591664&mc=9&forum_id=2 http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=591875&mc=54&forum_id=2 http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=591875&forum_id=2&PHPSESSID=d3275a68320df53fb45fe1e232cb3b53 http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=591875&mc=55&forum_id=2 http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=617176&mc=12&forum_id=2 http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=613270&mc=1&forum_id=2 http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=613270&mc=15&forum_id=2 http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=613270&mc=12&forum_id=2 http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=617793&mc=34&forum_id=2 |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:41 PM Author: Mauve Boyish Institution Internal Respiration If you have an expensive car, you'll get more dates with hot girls.
If you have an expensive handbag, you will NOT get more dates with hot men.
HTH. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:42 PM Author: Drab range If you have an expensive handbag, you'll get more approving glances from women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557039) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:55 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse As a male, I find the compulsion to buy expensive handbags somewhat confusing, but I don't really judge women for wanting to own them because I assume it obviously means something to them even though that something eludes me. I do wonder if part of the male disgust with expensive handbags springs from the fact that they really do nothing to enhance the desirability of women in the eyes of men. I think a lot of men would be less disgusted with a tit job that cost 10 times more than an expensive handbag. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:00 PM Author: Nighttime Anal Death Wish Or even overpriced designer jeans -- at least those make chicks' asses look good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557178) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:08 PM Author: Mauve Boyish Institution Internal Respiration as a man, i'm disgusted with all titjobs. why would I want a woman with sacks of saltwater stuffed under her skin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557236) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:09 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse I personally agree with you. I suspect that a lot of men do not agree with the two of us. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557242) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:10 PM Author: stubborn floppy national chad A lot of men enjoy the comic stylings of carlos mencia too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557254) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:12 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse probably 95% overlap between those who think mencia is hilarious and those who think tit jobs are teh awesome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557269) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:40 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur I would love to tittyfuck Carlos Mencia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557483) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:12 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Aren't you a chick? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557272) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:14 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse Oh yeah, right.
*gets in character*
Handbags are cool, I like puppies. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:19 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Your moniker is evocative of a chick who plays the piano, and your email line a woman of delicate sensibilities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557338) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:28 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse My tagline actually comes from Mao Zedong's hundred flowers campaign, wherein Mao encouraged criticism of the Chinese Communist Party, only to turn back around and persecute those critics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Flowers_Campaign |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:35 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur You do play the piano, though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557457) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:37 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse I played for about 6 years when I was younger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557467) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:37 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur That's hot, dood. I love chicks who play the piano. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557473) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:45 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse Here's a totally candid and hot photo of me on the piano.
http://tinyurl.com/h9ada |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:50 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Would it be rude if I told you that I just came? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557535) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:53 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse I'd be insulted if you didn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557543) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:01 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur My soul died a little when I found out you're a dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557599) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:09 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse Sorry man, them's the breaks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557639) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:54 PM Author: Cocky Property Newt psst! tor's kinda stupid, give him a break! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557552) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:16 PM Author: Drab range That makes sense to me. I do think that guys are far easier on expenses that either relate to female hotness or are on things they like themselves.
But hell, guys spend money on things that women neither like or find attractive. No reason they can't assume that women live for something besides men and their interests. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:27 PM Author: Nighttime Anal Death Wish women do things irrespective of their effect on men? *head spins* |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:57 PM Author: Spectacular corn cake school cafeteria A handbag serves largely the same purpose as an iPod. They're both at least partly about status. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557151) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:13 PM Author: excitant factory reset button WTF no. An IPod actually serves a purpose. I can listen to music or lectures when I am jogging or going for a walk etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557282) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:19 PM Author: Spectacular corn cake school cafeteria I said largely. You could have a different MP3 player that costs less money. Part of the reason you picked an iPod is undoubtedly because of prestige. Similarly, there are many different ways to carry your shit around.
Don't get me wrong. Anyone who claims that expensive handbags make them "happy" is a retard. Similarly, anyone who claims that they chose an iPod for its superior technology is also a retard. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:24 PM Author: excitant factory reset button The price difference between an IPod and a different MP3 player isn't that huge though. It's not like an IPod costs 1K (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557377) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:36 AM Author: Aromatic dun nowag except #2, these are all statements of opinion. if you don't like girls that like nice things, then don't pursue them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559833) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:59 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Don't be so desperate to defend your retarded spending habits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556751) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:02 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner I'm not really all that desperate, better me wanting a 1k bag than your TTT girl friends who will marry you, cheat on the pool boy and think their rainbow $ D and B bag is great. Oh and they will probably keep the tiffany ring when they leave you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556769) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:09 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556819) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:07 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur You're creating a false dichotomy, pretty much based on your whorish assumptions. And oh, I wouldn't buy a Tiffany engagement ring, much less date someone who would want one. I'm sure you come across as innocuous IRL, maybe even nice. But you're one seriously vapid, unintelligent person, and I'd be surprised if anyone who knows you IRL thought of you as genuine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556806) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:10 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner My opinion about you is based on as much information about you as you have about me. Now why is yours any more likely to be right?
I think I'm pretty unapologetic about liking what I like, if someone has a problem with that it's their problem. It strikes me as the opposite of not genuine.
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:24 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur You're just a poor man's version of Nicole Richie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556932) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:27 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Yeah you're right, I'm totally privledged and uneducated. Oh and I weigh 85 pounds. SCHWEEEEET. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556946) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:39 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur >I'm totally privledged and uneducated.
I rest my case. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:11 PM Author: iridescent racy old irish cottage fucking credited. this bitch and all like her need to die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556833) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:00 PM Author: excitant factory reset button Someone is TTT because they don't spend 1K on a bag? Oh please! What makes you think only dumb, unsuccessful women don't spend a lot on bags? Would you say a woman who didn't care about expensive purses is TTT if she happened to be a cardiothoracic surgeon? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557172) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:41 PM Author: Azure concupiscible headpube agreed. I like expensive handbags, although I've never spent $1000 on a bag. There's a big difference in quality, look and hey - I like bags! Designer bags hold their value (I've resold many for more than I've paid) and everyone likes to spend their money on something!
As long as you can afford it and aren't blowing all of your $$$ on something unnecessary, why is a hangbag worse than anything else? It's like art you can use :)
I don't waste tons of money, put most of it in the bank, and never buy anything I can't afford. My boyfriend is the same way and understands, and prefers to buy expensive guitars as his occasional splurge.
No biggie. :) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:08 AM Author: Heady pistol Buying expensive guitars is generally retarded too. Without knowing exactly what he is buying I can't comment specifically, but if it says "Gibson" on the headstock you can be pretty sure you are dating a fucking moron. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558148) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 9:19 AM Author: Azure concupiscible headpube so what do you spend your money on? $12 drinks at the bar?
As long as you put $$ in the bank, can afford what you are buying, and it's not harming anyone I'm not going to judge |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:56 PM Author: 180 thirsty step-uncle's house halford Why not as long as she can afford it, and doesn't expect me to pay for that shit.
I would prefer that she spends it on something nice that makes her happy, versus wasting it on poors. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:57 PM Author: Drab range If you're still in need of a phone, I found my old one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556734) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:59 PM Author: 180 thirsty step-uncle's house halford thanks but I got one! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556748) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:00 PM Author: Drab range Good! Being phoneless blows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556756) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:58 PM Author: stubborn floppy national chad Seriously. It will condition her for my many frivolous non-poor expenditures too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556741) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:15 PM Author: cream rambunctious hospital I think the question is whether you would date a girl who is made happy by frivolous, expensive accessories. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556868) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:18 PM Author: 180 thirsty step-uncle's house halford of all things wrong with women, that is far from a deal breaker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556887) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:56 PM Author: Maniacal ruby mediation therapy Depends. If she is rich enough to be able to afford it, sure, maybe she'll buy me some dumb shit too. But in the more likely event that she is deep in credit-card debt, no way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556727) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:59 PM Author: Drab range I'd agree with that. Spending tons of money on shit you don't need and can't afford is a bad sign. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556745) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:00 PM Author: contagious slippery stage place of business How do you think the "rich" become poors? By spending it all on useless shit like purses that cost 1K instead of investing it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556755) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:01 PM Author: stubborn floppy national chad If she's blowing $1K on shit like purses regularly, sure. A one time expenditure of 1K is not that much for some people. It's not like you have to invest every penny you don't spend on basic necessities in order to be fiscally responsible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556766) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:02 PM Author: Maniacal ruby mediation therapy I'm dating her, not hiring her as my financial manager. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556768) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:03 PM Author: odious antidepressant drug why have money leftover? you can't spend it when you're dead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556778) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:05 PM Author: Drab range If she's fiscally irresponsible overall, that's a good reason not to date her. Many people have more than $1000 in expendable income after basic expenses and prudent saving. Does it really matter if they like bags more than vacations or televisions or whatever else the money might be spent on? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556788) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:12 AM Author: Heady pistol Yes, because bags are about the stupidest thing you could waste money on. I'd much rather take a nice vacation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558172) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 8:34 AM Author: Drab range Other people don't enjoy such things the way you do, though. Are they expected to have no little pleasures because they don't care for the one luxury you approve of?
If the stance is that extra money should be saved or given to others, that's one thing, but the THOU MUST ENJOY X, OR BE FORBIDDEN ALL OTHER INDULGENCES attitude seems shallow in its own way. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:57 PM Author: odious antidepressant drug if she has the cash, who cares? it's her money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556733) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:01 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Any chick who spends 1K on a bag has horrible priorities in life and is most likely a vapid cunt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556765) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:02 PM Author: odious antidepressant drug i just spent a little under 3K on a TV.
and besides, the question is about *dating*, not even monogamy. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:17 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Date: February 6th, 2007 9:07 PM Author: fruittarte
Anyone who is this judgmental is probably a useless prick who is joyless, insufferable and terrible in the sack.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556807)
Anyone who is as humorless and defensive as you is probably projecting. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:07 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Anyone who is this judgmental is probably a useless prick who is joyless, insufferable and terrible in the sack. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556807) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:09 PM Author: stubborn floppy national chad Don? Is that you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556818) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:08 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt STFU, you spendthrift. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556813) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:12 PM Author: stubborn floppy national chad Lol, spendthrift? I hope you don't call me a squanderer or a profligate next! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556844) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:13 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur I'm whokebe, actually.
I have no problem with going all out on meals with people I like, vacations, or whatever. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:16 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Why is that any better? And how do you know I would't prefer that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556869) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:19 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Memorable meals and vacations with loved ones have a utility beyond money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556901) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:22 PM Author: Drab range Why? And why do other expenses not have this utility? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556920) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:29 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Are you a fucking moron? One is about sharing experiences and memories with other people. The other is purely about inward indulgence. You have an excessive love of arguing for the sake of arguing, even when it's pointless contrarianism. I'm sure your BF has pointed this out to you. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:31 PM Author: Drab range Why do you need to spend money to do those things? You can share experiences and memories by eating at home and exploring your own city. For people who don't have a taste for travel or expensive cuisine, eating at a restaurant or going to a foreign country is indulgence.
Nope. I'm actually pretty agreeable in real life. But I don't know many people who try to take silly stands like this. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:36 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur You're avoiding the issue. Of course they're both luxuries. But that wasn't my point. You're either dumb or disingenuous.
I bet you argue with your BF until you're blue in the face, even when you know you're wrong deep down. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:38 PM Author: Drab range But your point was something that's easily separated from the luxury part of the experience. There's no reason to think that the luxury premium is going to enhance your relationships.
What about nice food and seeing new things is valuable to you apart from that? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:45 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur >There's no reason to think that the luxury premium is going to enhance your relationships.
Good atmosphere, impeccable food with fresh ingredients and competent but unintrusive service are pleasant experiences that are hard to duplicate either at home (because someone is involved in cooking and worries about it) or cheaper restaurants, and people often have fond memories of great meals where everything was just right. Of course it's not necessary; that's why they're luxuries. Still not the same thing as inward, self-indulgent purchases.
I bet you argue with your BF until you're blue in the face, even when you know you're wrong deep down.
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:51 PM Author: Drab range People also have wonderfully fond memories of home cooked meals, served in relaxed atmospheres. Think of all of the people who idolize mom's homecooked meals.
Sounds like you just prefer to indulge your mouth rather than your eyes. Nothing wrong with that, but I have a hard time seeing how it's superior to think about good food and service with pleasure versus looking down at an object and feeling pleasure.
Nope. I think that's you. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:53 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur How does an occasional meal out contradict a home cooked meal? They complement, not contradict, each other.
You're really bad at arguing. I bet you argue with your BF until you're blue in the face, even when you know you're wrong deep down. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:13 PM Author: Drab range Shows you don't need the experience for the memory. You're just indulging your tastebuds by having the experience in a restaurant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557277) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:15 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur >hard to duplicate either at home (because someone is involved in cooking and worries about it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557301) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:20 PM Author: Drab range But you can have a different sort of experience, one that's at least as memorable (remember mom?).
And stop being so lazy about cooking and the worries involved! Isn't this supposed to be about your loved ones and their memories, rather than your own sloth? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:26 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Once in a while, I like to take out my mom for a nice meal, before I skullfuck her in the parking lot. Is that so wrong?
I also cook for her sometimes when I go home. Then I skullfuck her while my dad records it. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:28 PM Author: Drab range Yes, because both your mother and you are being horribly self-indulgent. You could do your skullfucking at home at all times, and take have someone describe it to you instead of spending the money to videotape it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557413) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:30 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur I ejaculate a little more vigorously after a nice meal out. It's totally worth it. My mom thinks so too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557430) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:50 PM Author: Nighttime Anal Death Wish the point is: in 12 hours you will have shat out the last remnants of your fabulous meal, while the handbag is still there to provide years of enjoyment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557536) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:23 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner My point is it's not impossible to prioritize those things when they are possible and still spend on other things. Do you never spend on luxuries? Also dating a guy who isn't ajudgmental prick is probably far more valuable than any of those things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556929) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:34 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Nice meals and vacations are luxuries.
LOL @ dumb bitch who thinks finding gauche spending habits distasteful = judgmental prick. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:36 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Are those your only luxuries? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556996) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:49 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur I've met much hotter girls than you who are fortunately grounded enough not to be as vapid as certain people who post here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557087) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:52 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Way to answer the question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557118) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:58 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt Nope, deal killer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556740) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 8:59 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio Only 1k? Have already. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:06 PM Author: excitant factory reset button No, I wouldn't spend 1K on a purse. I wanna make a lot of money but I'd rather invest it rather than spend it on stupid crap. Well other than a really nice house and a Lexus and BMW, I plan to be cheap as hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556799) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:11 PM Author: Sickened Ladyboy my gf and I have had a deal since I've been in ls: she supports me, puts up with my mood swings, anxieties, etc. and I buy her a new purse, of her choosing, every semester.
So far both all have been > $1000; 2 Prada, 1 Yves Saint Laurent, 1 Goyard. We are going shopping in the next few weeks.
And I can't wait to get married to her. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:12 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt You sound like a worthless piece of shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556839) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:14 PM Author: Sickened Ladyboy your response sounds irrational and disproportionate to my post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556859) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:27 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt Yeah dood, keep letting her "support" you, you fucking sans balls mother fucker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556945) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:45 PM Author: Sickened Ladyboy your well reasoned, rational insights have caused me, and probably lots of others tonight, see the error of our ways.
why do you feel so strongly about this? I honestly wouldn't feel that strongly about not buying my gf purses. It's just money.
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:14 PM Author: excitant factory reset button "And I can't wait to get married to her."
LOL, no offense but that's pretty sad. You have to make her a deal to be nice to you? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:19 PM Author: Sickened Ladyboy "You have to make her a deal to be nice to you?"
No not at all. We're nice to each other. We like nice things. We like to do nice things for each other and give each other nice things.
the purse thing we do began as a nod toward what we both knew would be a challenging time when I started law school and we've continued doing it. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:43 PM Author: Mauve Boyish Institution Internal Respiration Why is law school "a challenging time"?
This is the easiest, most fucking carefree time of your life.
If you are so challenged by it, and you become so moody that you have to buy your girlfriend handbags to appease her, well, she is going to be in for a world of hurt when you start working.
That, or you're going to be buying her handbags on a daily basis. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:17 AM Author: Heady pistol Correct. This is a doomed marriage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558216) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:21 PM Author: stirring legal warrant quadroon this is sweet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556912) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:01 PM Author: Spectacular corn cake school cafeteria I can't wait to see what she starts demanding when you're making money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557184) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:32 PM Author: electric principal's office becky I honestly can't believe this is real. You are the typical shitty American couple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557439) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:12 PM Author: Rusted metal wrinkle I would not date a guy who judged me for spending 1K on a handbag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556840) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:39 PM Author: electric principal's office becky Tough shit. You only buy the bag because you want people to assume that you're rich and trendy or whatever, so you're going to have to deal with the fact that some people will assume that you're an idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557480) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:03 PM Author: Cocky Property Newt I actually kind of agree with this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557606) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:13 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker the guys who are yelling and screaming on the board don't realize that most girls who can afford it have bags that are worth about 1k. all the rest of the girls want one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556848) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:18 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner I just get the feeling these guys aren't going to be dating women who don't want designer goods, especially when their husband is making all that money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556884) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:20 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker "I just get the feeling these guys aren't going to be dating women"
you could have stopped there |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:19 PM Author: excitant factory reset button LOL, that's not true. I am not trying to be snobbish but in honesty, money isn't an issue for me. It's just that I would think it was a waste to spend so much on something so useless. If anything, it's poor people and the regular middle class that's obsessed with expensive crap. 1K isn't all that much, any regular American can spend that much on a bag if they really wanted it (whether it's a smart thing to do is another story.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556895) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:23 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker i could get into an argument about how the money isn't wasted bec obviously i value the bag more than i value the money; the retailers value the money more than i value the bag. thus there has been a transaction that makes both of us better off. the real waste is the money that i have to pay on sales tax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556922) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:29 PM Author: excitant factory reset button I don't care if you think it is not a waste to spend that much on a bag. I'm just saying that you can't assume that someone is poor because they don't care to spend a lot of useless crap. Because if anything most well-off people I know don't waste their money on useless crap. It's mainly just regular people who make in the high 5 figures or low 6 figures that get all excited when they see their first paycheck and go and blow it on useless things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556952) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:32 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner How is a BMW any better than a nice purse? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556967) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:33 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio Can't cruise down melrose with a persian girl in a handbag brah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556975) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:34 PM Author: stubborn floppy national chad Parts of a persian girl, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556984) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:35 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner And a persian girl ain't coming sans Fendi :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556990) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:36 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio Fuck it, I'll just throw a bunch of knock-offs in the trunk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556995) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:37 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Oh she can snif out a fake buddy. Don't tell her your name is Reza either, she'll see right through you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557004) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:39 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio Darn, guess I'll just have to settle for armo chicks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557013) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:34 PM Author: excitant factory reset button You can actually enjoy driving a BMW to work. (And BTW I don't actually plan to buy a BMW until I am like 50 and have a tons of savings and investments.) When I get my first job as a doctor, I am probably going to be driving a Honda or parents might give me old Lexus that they don't drive anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556983) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:39 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner I'll probably save more buying bags and civics my whole life than you will buying bmws from the age of 50 on. And I enjoy carrying a nice bag more than driving a nice car, why isn't that ok? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557016) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:41 PM Author: excitant factory reset button Buying BMWs? I only plan to buy one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557032) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:45 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Ok that's probably still 30k more than my civic, so again, why is your choice better than mine? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557056) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:11 PM Author: excitant factory reset button Because a purse has no function whatsoever. At least a BMW would be a sweet ride (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557265) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:21 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner It carries things. You don't need a BMW anymore than I need FEndi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557356) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:30 PM Author: excitant factory reset button A lot of bags that are not Fendi can carry things. Whereas, a BMW would be nice to drive for fun with the hood down on a nice summer day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557421) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:34 PM Author: stubborn floppy national chad You're in luck!
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:35 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner And a Fendi bag is nice to carry on a summer day. I would get far less enjoyment our of a BMW, I don't judge your choice, why judge mine? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557455) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:39 PM Author: Maize giraffe lots of cars transport people around. in fact, a crappy starter bmw is not as good of a ride as a better model of a less flashy brand, but tons of people pay for the cache of owning a bmw cuz it makes them happy.
you are basically just picking and choosing luxuries and saying some purchases more sense than others, when really, its just preferences and as long as people can afford them, its fine.
in fact, there are tons of people who can afford both 1k handbags and bmws, and more power to them. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:42 PM Author: Maize giraffe as long as useless things continue to bring people joy, then who cares.
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:45 PM Author: dashing lemon stain laser beams i really think this is ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561428) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 4:08 PM Author: Heady pistol If you limit this to the douches in law school it is probably 90% accurate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561575) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:18 PM Author: tan irradiated rehab I would not date a girl who didn't own at least one $1000 handbag. Come on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556890) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:18 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio srsly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556891) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:26 PM Author: tan irradiated rehab Do I look like I date cheap trash? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556941) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:20 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Also, the expensive bag is less likely to be made by sweatshop workers. Just a thought. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556906) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:47 PM Author: thriller menage but it's not like women deliberately buy expensive bags with that in mind. it's just incidental. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557075) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:23 PM Author: stirring legal warrant quadroon Dear op, you seem to be not so much asking a question as forcing everyone to give you the answer you want them to give.
Sugary is a good person. It's ironic that you accuse her of being shallow when you're the one judging people by what they buy instead of looking beyond it to see if there might be more to their personality. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:29 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt "Sugary is a good person"
Link? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:32 PM Author: stirring legal warrant quadroon well, apart from a fascination with purses, I don't think anyone has accused her of being a bad person. If you're looking for a girlfriend, seems wise to look beyond what someone likes to buy. Seems like there might be some other relevant characteristics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556969) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:34 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker seriously. not dating someone bec they like expensive purses is really just as dumb as not dating someone because they don't like expensive purses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556979) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:40 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt Actually it isn't. It shows a lack of respect for one's money and makes one look very shallow. If I was thinking of buying a $10,000 watch I would hope my GF would tell me that I was being an asstard. Would you pay 5K for a pack of gum? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557021) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:43 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker the gum is a ridiculous analogy. if it's her money and that's what she wants to do, why are you bothered by it? being excited by expensive things does not make a person shallow or dumb. it makes them excited by expensive things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557041) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:46 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt It wouldn't bother me unless I was serious about her and thinking long term. I would never marry someone in their 20s who would spend 1000 bucks on a fucking purse they'll be sick of in 6 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557067) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:52 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker "I would never marry someone in their 20s who would spend 1000 bucks on a fucking purse they'll be sick of in 6 months."
yes, i get that. the question is WHY |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:57 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner "they'll be sick of in 6 months" assume much? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:46 PM Author: Drab range No. But if I knew that the $5K gum would make my boyfriend infinitely happier than any other luxury item, and that he could afford it, I'd keep my mouth shut. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557063) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:47 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt It isn't a matter of being able to afford, it is a matter of showing good judgement. Do you know how much good 1K could do at the food bank? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557077) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:53 PM Author: Drab range I'm sure it could do a lot of good, but unless I'd otherwise expect him to donate that money it's not my business what he enjoys. It frankly seems a little tyrannical to insist that everyone like the same luxuries you do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557127) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:11 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur >It isn't a matter of being able to afford, it is a matter of showing good judgement.
TITCR |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:16 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur >It isn't a matter of being able to afford, it is a matter of showing good judgement.
This point cannot be emphasized enough. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:24 AM Author: Heady pistol 178. Even if you don't give the money to charity, blowing it on a bag shows that the person's priorities are completely backwards. I wouldn't even consider dating them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558277) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:52 PM Author: excitant factory reset button If there was gum that cost 5K and my BF insisted that that he needed gum that cost 5K to "be happy," I'd dump him on the spot. Things can't make you happy and spending that much on something so stupid, shows serious lack of common sense. Things may be nice to have (for that single moment), but they don't make you happy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557110) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:02 PM Author: Maize giraffe material things may not bring true happiness, but if you have the money to afford things and it makes you happy to chew some type of gum, wear nice shoes, get a $300 massage, even if such happiness is temporarily, then thats worth it.
having common sense rule everything regarding how you feel is boring and those people lack joy in life. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:05 PM Author: excitant factory reset button "it makes you happy to chew some type of gum"
Again, if I met a person like this I would send them to a therapist for counseling. I would never date/marry someone who spent money on frivolous like that and said it's because it "makes them happier." Why do things that only make you happier for that moment? Go find a hobby and pray/find religion instead |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:23 PM Author: Drab range Because we're human, and we have expendable income.
I strongly suspect that you have some new clothes that are not from Wal-mart or a thrift store, some entertainment devices, some pretty things to look at in your room and your home, and all sorts of other unnecessary goods. I'm assuming these things give you pleasure. Otherwise, why do you spend money on them? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:36 PM Author: excitant factory reset button Yes, I admit that I do have a lot of material things that I don't need but none of it gives me pleasure. I think it's more a standard of lifestyle that I have become accustomed to. Maybe it's nice when you first got something, but after a day or week you feel pretty indifferent about it. If anything, I would probably be happier if I didn't desire things. I really hope I can work on letting go of things, rather than accumulating more things I don't need (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557464) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:38 PM Author: Drab range So then you're going to give up buying new material things, unless you absolutely need them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557477) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:43 PM Author: excitant factory reset button I am not perfect, so probably not. But I would always have my limits, like knowing that it is not reasonable to spend 1K on a purse and such because it's not going to make me happier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557501) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:47 PM Author: Drab range Lots of your little expenses probably add up to $1000. Is it more reasonable to buy lots of little things than one big thing, assuming that both people spend the same amount? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557516) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:44 PM Author: Maize giraffe um, being materialistic and having a good perspective on life are not mutually exclusive things.
you can value your friendships/relationships, family, have morals, be substantive etc. and STILL LIKE NICE THINGS! and theres nothing wrong w/ that and its totally fucking normal to be happy even for a week if you like something new that you purchased. its only becomes problematic if that takes over your life and you are unhappy b/c you dont have certain things.
and just like youve gotten accustomed to a certain lifestyle, tons of people are accustomed to a lifestyle where they can spend money on nice clothes and bags simply cuz they can afford it and they dont need to be practical. so stop assuming that spending $1k on a handbag means youre not able to save toward a down payment or a nice car. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:55 PM Author: excitant factory reset button I am not judging you, as I am materialistic to a certain extent but the fact that you want something just so you can be happy for that week is still problematic because perpetuates a cycle of wanting more. You don't just buy nice things and say "I don't want anything else." The minute you start desiring something and then get it, it doesn't just end as there's always other things you want and this creates attachment. To be truly happy, I think you have to live life free of attachment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557558) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:59 PM Author: Maize giraffe um no, i dont believe in that stuff. i think its healthy to be materialistic to an extent and it makes life more fun and others more fun when they have their own vices.
i dont have a addictive, obsessive personality. i like nice things, but it wont ever affect my happiness just b/c i desire certain material posessions.
sorry, i am not a buddhist, my version of true happiness is not a monk lifestyle. i believe you can have it all i wouldnt date people who are super practical and only buy necessary things b/c they are boring. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:07 PM Author: excitant factory reset button How exactly does it make your life more fun? I am not saying that you have to have a monk lifestyle, but do you really think that you are having "more fun" than people who don't have things with Prada or Gucci labels? I feel like on some level coveting expensive things makes you more self-absorbed and less self-aware (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557621) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:15 PM Author: Maize giraffe youre not getting it, are you.
it makes life more fun for ME to carry a nice bag and different things make life more fun for other people. there is nothing w/ doing things that make your life more fun, as long as you can afford it and youre not hurting others. in fact, i would say my version of fun is a lot safer and healthier than lots of other things people do for fun (drugs, alcohol, etc.)
and i dont understand why you have to make this into something deeper about self awareness. it simply isnt. its not like material goods take over my life if you want them. there are many things that i think about at night and nothing involves handbags or cars or material goods. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:31 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Thanks :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556960) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:28 PM Author: Razzle peach site french chef almost all girls worth dating have at least 1 expensive bag. i dont know why they buy them, but there are tons of things woman do that men will never understand. just deal with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556948) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:33 PM Author: tan irradiated rehab TITCR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556978) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:34 PM Author: zippy stead wtf? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556981) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:34 PM Author: Multi-colored Startled University Hissy Fit titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556982) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:41 PM Author: stirring legal warrant quadroon Once upon a time, I found this gorgeous small black leather gucci purse in a bathroom along brighton beach. It was exatly my style.
Then my boyfriend told me me give it to to the nearest cops. I stood there while the six cops discussed who would get to keep the purse. The one on my left won because he was the only one with a steady girlfriend.
I still have no nice purse. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:48 PM Author: Razzle peach site french chef this is what im talking about. your boyfriend wont let you steal some lady's purse so he is an asshole. i wish summers had been given time to get some researchers looking into the differences between men and women's brains. the world may never know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557086) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:52 PM Author: stirring legal warrant quadroon it went to the cops' girlfriend. justice has been served. I actually tried to find the girl but she was gone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557117) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:56 PM Author: confused sneaky criminal I am surprised this has to be taught after preschool.
"it went to the cops' girlfriend."
That doesn't make it yours.
" I actually tried to find the girl but she was gone."
That doesn't make it yours.
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:05 PM Author: Stimulating Native Kitty If nobody claimed it, eventually it would have been hers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557218) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:08 PM Author: confused sneaky criminal Probably. But it's retarded to assume that nobody would go looking for a missing purse that's worth a couple hundred, which she was ready to do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557240) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:49 PM Author: 180 thirsty step-uncle's house halford and why the fuck did you listen to him? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557091) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:42 AM Author: stirring legal warrant quadroon I do as I'm told? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558396) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:49 PM Author: thriller menage omg your bf didn't let you steal a gucci bag. how terrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557092) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:54 PM Author: confused sneaky criminal Wait, you're trying to get sympathy because your boyfriend wanted to return someone's lost property while you wanted to steal it? The fact that you ran into crooked cops doesn't make you the better person. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557130) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:58 PM Author: stirring legal warrant quadroon brighton beach, brooklyn. The purse was never going back to its original owner. the first words one of the cops said after I told them I had found the person and wanted to return it were "Are you serious?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557154) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:02 PM Author: confused sneaky criminal Umm, you could put a sign up in the bathroom. Or contact the owner of the place, tell them you found a bag, and give them a number in case someone returns and wants to to reach the person who found it. Or you could put it up on craigslist as an item found.
Giving it to the cops was also the responsible thing to do. It doesn't matter what they were going to do with it. At least it's not on your conscious (assuming you even have one). |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:15 PM Author: stirring legal warrant quadroon eh, maybe you're right. It wasn't so bad until I heard the cops talking about who the purse would go to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557296) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:41 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse I agree with the second and third sentence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557028) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:49 PM Author: excitant factory reset button So would you say when you learned that she did not have a purse that was 1K but made 3-4X what you made? PWN3D!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557090) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:58 PM Author: Razzle peach site french chef i dont care what kind of a purse a girl has, but i definitely wouldnt date a girl who felt it was necessary to tell me how much money she made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557156) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:29 PM Author: Razzle peach site french chef you got me. clearly someone who goes around bragging about how much they make is very secure with themselves. what was i thinking.
edit: fix the board rach |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:20 PM Author: excitant factory reset button LOL, insecure much? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557347) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:34 PM Author: Ivory Ratface Digit Ratio Damn, seems like every handbag thread gets 100+ posts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7556985) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:41 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner So strange that THIS is what gets everyone going. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557026) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:45 PM Author: confused sneaky criminal I think it's because handbags don't have a male equivalent.
Most men appreciate nice watches as much as women love fancy jewelry. Designer clothes/shoes are understandable for both sexes. Electronics are loved by pretty much everyone. I think girls are impressed by nice/attractive cars even if they're not enthusiast themselves.
It's the handbags that makes men scratch their heads. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:48 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker (they're a metaphor for vaginas. they're soft and supple and you put things in them. pass it on.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557082) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:49 PM Author: zippy stead plus, obviously, they're called purses.
Or which came first? The chicken or the egg? |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:51 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Lots of things guys like make me scratch my head, but as long as it makes him happy and it's not hurting anyone, i'm a-ok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557100) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:40 PM Author: confused sneaky criminal I think a handbag is a stupid thing to spend that much money on, especially when you can get a quality designer bag for about half or a third of that.
But just because it's stupid doesn't mean it's irresponsible (so long as it's not paid with money you don't have). People are allowed to splurge. If I want her to approve of my designer suits and home entertainment systems and 60 inch plasma TVs, I have to make concessions somewhere.
She's going to want nice dresses, jewelry, expensive shoes, and a lot more overpriced things to go with the handbag. If you're going to go apeshit over just a handbag then you're better off never dating or finding one of those hippie, outdoors type chick. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:44 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker even the hippie, outdoors type chick wants a handbag like that. i know, i used to be one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557050) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:42 PM Author: zippy stead people pick their luxuries. I wouldn't spend a K on a bag but if I had the money and the home I would spend that on a piece of art. Or a last minute vacation. Some people might spend that on a video camera, or an entertainment system. Whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557040) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:55 PM Author: Nighttime Anal Death Wish as long as I can buy a nice firearm every time she buys a $1K handbag, why not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557136) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:56 PM Author: excitant factory reset button What the hell do you need a firearm for? Guns are bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557145) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:58 PM Author: zippy stead I laughed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557159) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:58 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker i would actually like to get a gun to keep at home. maybe a nice .22 or .25. with a pink handle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557155) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:00 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse will it shoot rainbows? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557176) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:07 PM Author: amethyst partner boistinker no, it will shoot people who sneak into my apt and try to hurt me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557227) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:01 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner HA, a purse never killed anyone. :). But in theory I think the point is right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557186) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:04 PM Author: Stimulating Native Kitty ha sounds like my BF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557205) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:06 PM Author: confused sneaky criminal Another reason why Texas has got to be the worst place on Earth.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557221) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:09 PM Author: Stimulating Native Kitty Because my boyfriend likes guns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557244) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:11 PM Author: confused sneaky criminal Change Texas to "The South" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557260) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:17 PM Author: Stimulating Native Kitty holy shit, awesome...brand new?
EDIT: meant for David Carr |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:26 PM Author: Pale Whorehouse no it was seized in some raid. i dunno how old it is either way i can't to go up to spring and try it out this march. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557395) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:16 PM Author: Pale Whorehouse fuck you the south kicks ass.
speaking of guns my homeboys grandpa who was a Texas Ranger bought a desert eagle at auction sponsored by the rangers for $100!!!
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Date: February 6th, 2007 9:59 PM Author: scarlet market I can't remember the last time I dated a girl that spent less than 1K on a handbag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557169) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:14 PM Author: Vivacious Sadistic Sanctuary I'd be mad about this if there was any way I could justify my love for video games. They cost a lot of money AND waste time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557293) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:16 PM Author: Pale Whorehouse i have dated a couple of chicks like this. they were all from rich families so whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557321) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:23 PM Author: Violent trump supporter idiot No. If she spends her money like that, imagine how she'll spend yours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557372) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:28 PM Author: electric principal's office becky What a wretched, materialistic bunch of shits. Any girl who would even want to spend 1K on a handbag is a worthless whore. End of discussion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557412) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:43 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur It pretty much boils down to this:
>It isn't a matter of being able to afford, it is a matter of showing good judgement. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 10:56 PM Author: Transparent Motley Macaca I didn't know that a post with the word handbag in the title could generate this much discussion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557568) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:07 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner And somehow this isn't the first time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557623) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:09 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur People generally have visceral reactions to tasteless vulgarity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557637) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:18 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Yeah I'm pretty sure that's why everyone on this thread is annoyed at you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557711) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:22 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Only the dumb bitches. Everyone in this thread finds you contemptible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557743) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:25 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Right, all those people who agree with me hate me. I'd be willing ot bet that even those who disagree find you far mroe irritating and dense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557772) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:11 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma I've been thinking about it a lot. And I can't figure out what bugs me about it. I need to come up with an articulable principle so I can argue with Rowan.
I don't mind the mere idea of purchasing expensive goods... but something about extravagant luxury items really bothers me (both the $1000 hand bag for girls and the $100k car for guys). |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:13 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse I suggest reading theory of the leisure class.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_of_the_Leisure_Class |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:17 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner What about the 50k car? What about the 75k car. How is 100k the same as 1k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557701) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:21 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma I just picked reasonably high numbers for both purchases. There was no particular significance to $1000 or $100k beyond that they looked similar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557727) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:24 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner HAHA ok fair enough. One of these days I will convince you :). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557759) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:37 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma Ha! Even you know you're wrong on that one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557880) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:41 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Prolly true :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557915) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:22 PM Author: Vivacious Sadistic Sanctuary Both are wildy disproportionate in cost to items with the same functionality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557739) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:24 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Except in the case of a handbag, it's even more pronounced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557758) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:27 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner So is a 50k car. Even if that's the case, you're wasting far less money with the car. I mean I could probably manage more of a decade of purse buying just in the difference of what I will pay for one car and what guys here will pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557784) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:30 PM Author: Vivacious Sadistic Sanctuary I see you haven't gotten to fractions yet in math class. Come back to this thread when you have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557812) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:31 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma $50k is probably right about at my personal breaking point on car purchases. The car I get out of law school will be ~$30k, I think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557820) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:33 PM Author: Maize giraffe theyre just making exceptions for items theyd personally be more interested in b/c no one is totally above materialism.
in the case of a car, super expensive cars always require a lot more maintenance and are not as reliable as a honda or a toyota.
but guys understand horsepower and engine size a lot better than quality of leather and hand stitching. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:34 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Well I think MTG has a little more credibility on this thread since I know how careful he is about spending. That said, he has his own slurges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557848) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:40 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma I did just get back from having a $35 tea and champagne at the Four Seasons, followed by a $14 glass of cognac, a $10 cigar, and $30 for valet parking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557899) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:43 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner That's almost 1/10th of a bag right there :)! How was it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557925) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:44 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma Fabulous. There is nothing more relaxing than Low Tea at the Four Seasons. It is an absolutely sublime experience. I'm slowly mentally gearing up here to go back to working on my brief. But for now, ahhh.... wonderful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557944) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:48 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner I'm glad you had fun, I might have to try this. What time is it at? Do you know if they have it on weekends? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557982) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:51 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma Yeah, they do it every day and weekends. I'll go with you sometime next quarter if we want to make an event out of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558009) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:56 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Happily. I think it would be funny to take the bf there before a bulls game too. Kind of a little bit of a contrast. :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558061) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:14 PM Author: haunting generalized bond Sounds like an ideal event (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7563700) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:45 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557946) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:20 PM Author: Spectacular corn cake school cafeteria "You're wasting far less money on the car."
Under what economic theory? In one sense, you're wasting vastly more money on the car, given that it loses approximately a quarter of its value the minute you drive it off the lot and over half its value over five years. There are not a few $1K handbags that you can sell on Ebay for near their full value five and ten years later. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:41 PM Author: Lavender mentally impaired point lettuce Jesus, what pice of American shit are you buying that loses 25% of its value the second you drive it off the lot?? Look at the used car prices for reputable brands like Honda/Acura or Toyota/Lexus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560395) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:28 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma This is at least part of it.
I was thinking it may have to do with paying gross markup beyond actual cost, where the markup is created almost purely by luxury item demand. So that the extra cost you're paying doesn't actually net you anything extra, at least measured by the cost of the input. You're just paying to walk up the luxury goods line, not for more input value.
That's far too economic for what it actually is (and of course the purchasers of fine handbags can correctly argue that certain types of leather costs more, the hand stitching costs more, etc.)
Anyone know what the standard markup is on a car (in terms of average price, so you can subtract out fixed cost R&D expenses and stuff). |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:18 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Could it be vacuous materialism? Could it be a lack of restraint and moderation? You know, the very thing we find distasteful when a poor who wins the lottery goes on a gauche spending spree? Just because you can do or buy something doesn't mean you should. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:25 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma Oh, this is obviously part of it. I think conspicuous consumption is morally detestable. But of course, I've never heard anyone (at least not on XO) admit "Oh, well, I purchased this product as a status item." For example, sugary always talks about her bags in terms of quality of stitching, that it is handmade, the quality of the leather, etc. And I'm not even accusing her about being disingenuous about those things. But I have a very strong mental reaction to it that I haven't quite been able to pin down to a rational thought process.
The question I'm trying to figure out is where are the lines drawn. For example, I don't have a problem with a $2000 TV, but I would have a problem with a $2000 watch. Why?
I feel like there is a difference between the two, but I'm not really sure what it is. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:28 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner You personally value one more, would get more enjoyment out of it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557794) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:30 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma No. Because I didn't think there was anything wrong when my mom bought a $1500 sewing machine, and I don't place any value on that/get any enjoyment out of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557808) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:45 PM Author: Maize giraffe you probably sort items in terms of those that are shown off in public versus stuff like a sewing machine. i know people who pay like $1k for rare stamps cuz theyre hardcore collectors. would that rub you in the wrong way?
there might be a certain vulgar element to spending on status items like jewelry, cars, handbags, but then again, i know lots of girls w/ handbag and shoes collections, lots that theyve never carried out or worn in public. i just dont think people spend money on these items purely for status, there is something about those items that makes people happy outside of the status part. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:53 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur >there might be a certain vulgar element to spending on status items like jewelry, cars, handbags
You got it.
>there is something about those items that makes people happy outside of the status part.
Yes, their tastes are dictated by fashion magazines. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:58 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma One thing I will say that I have heard is people saying that they "Like the feel of going out knowing they are wearing something really expensive." I've overheard guys say this about suits ("You just feel more confident wearing such-and-such a brand of suit") and girls say this about dresses ("There's just a certain feeling you get knowing that you bought something really nice for yourself.")
That's not exactly a conspicuous consumption status-oriented thing, but I think I still find it objectionable in kind of the same way. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:31 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur $2000 TVs are sold everywhere. 2K watches and handbags aren't. The few (relatively) stores that carry them cater to the most extreme segment of the self-indulgent nouveau riche. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557819) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:34 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma I think it has something to do with the fact that a $2k TV actually represents $2k worth of technology, electrical components, etc. If you sold a $2k TV for $1200, I think the manufacturer would literally be losing money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557844) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:39 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur What would you think of someone who built a home theater with soundproofed walls, a huge projection screen, and an expensive sound system for a marginal markup?
I think it has more to do with the immoderate proposition of buying something because you can. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:43 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma I'm actually planning on building exactly this kind of home theater setup once I buy my first house.
Another example of a really expensive purchase that my parents made that I didn't mind was my dad bought a grand piano for ~$30k. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:45 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur Well made pianos make beautiful tones in ways that cheapos can't dream of doing. In the right hands, they make beautiful music. With the right care, they can be used for many generations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557951) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:49 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma Yes. And I also know that this thing was just magnificently assembled. It is a gorgeous piece of hand-made furniture that will become a family heirloom.
It also helps that I know that it is something my dad has wanted since he was 15 years old, and that he's been waiting literally 40 years to own one. It really is, I think, a dream come true to him, and something that perfectly represents his rise from the child of a sign-painter to the Vice President of one of the world's biggest companies. There's a lot of sentimental symbolism there. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:00 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur He did good; he should be proud. Maybe it's just my upbringing, but I've always had the notion that whatever education, power, or money I accrue were to be used toward a bigger purpose than accumulating frivolous toys. With great power comes great responsibility and all that.
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:32 PM Author: Transparent Motley Macaca maybe you just have a sense of what you would consider a reasonable price range for various items? At a certain level, it just goes beyond what you'd consider reasonable? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557825) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:36 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma This definitely plays into it. But how can I defend my own personal sense of "what is reasonable."
For example, I don't own a shirt that costs more than $40, or a pair of pants that costs more than $30 (my suits excepted). Most people wouldn't even blink at paying $60 for a pair of jeans though. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:46 PM Author: Transparent Motley Macaca Yeah, it seems to come down to a subjective standard in the long run...My spending habits are restricted as well, in that barring work clothing (which I sadly need more of because of a summer job), most of my stuff is pretty inexpensive. And even though I'm female, I have two purses, each of which may have cost $60 at most.
I personally can't justify spending a large chunk of money on something like a bag or a pair of shoes, but I also don't have the money to spare for it and I lived for two years on even less than what I have currently as a student. So part of it might just be that I'm used to not spending large sums of money on things like clothing or bags. Even if I had it though, I think I personally wouldn't spend it in that way...but that's really just a personal call. I'd rather not buy 15 bags and a lot of pairs of shoes and get a grand piano instead. :-) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:14 PM Author: cream rambunctious hospital Does anyone ever admit that they purchased something as a status item? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560246) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:23 PM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma On the board, the closest I've heard is stuff like "You just feel better going out when you have a really nice outfit that you spent a lot of money on."
In real life, I've heard people admit to it. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:19 PM Author: Maize giraffe guys are clueless about fashion and handbags. when they think of expensive handbags, they think of monogrammed LV/gucci/fendi/prada bags or things that are consipicuously flashy and those on the whole are often purchased to show off the brand and almost everyone who them do so for status (they also tend to cost slightly less than $1000).
whereas people who know and collect handbags usually buy styles and brands that no one would even know cost that much, so i honestly dont know how that becomes a status thing when 99% of the population have no idea you are even carrying such an expensive bag. some of the most expensive bags arent even mainstream brands that people know. have you heard of nancy gonzalez? probably not. bags are not like cars, they dont obviously show a brand or how expensive they are. some people just simply like beautiful handbags and you can resell those bags later on ebay for sometimes more than the original price if the style was discontinued. good handbags dont lose that much value if you keep in it good care. |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:28 PM Author: Transparent Motley Macaca it's interesting. your posts make me want to defend something where I normally couldn't care less. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557797) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:41 PM Author: Sable locus voyeur My words are carefully chosen to enrage idiot females. The substance of my argument, however, is impeccable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557917) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:31 PM Author: Nofapping circlehead business firm If she's hot, then probably. She gets points deducted for buying one, but it's nowhere near a dealbreaker unless symptomatic of a larger attachment to excessively expensive luxury goods that she cannot afford without parental (or future spousal) assistance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557816) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:33 PM Author: Umber patrolman spot nicely put. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557829) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:35 PM Author: Nofapping circlehead business firm I don't feign to understand female fashion patterns, but a girl who is absolutely attached to consumer goods/luxury expenditures that go beyond those enumerated in the "middle class striver" thread is probably distasteful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557865) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:34 PM Author: overrated address gunner Unlikely, though there are mitigating factors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557841) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:40 PM Author: Self-centered Jap Set i don't know why i made another thread for this. ___
an expensive tv or car has features whose development required pushing the edges of human knowledge. an example that has become familiar to many is "the mirrors" in DLP TVs. (see TI commercials with xoxo's favorite little girl.) this technology required millions of dollars, many years, and many scientific breakthroughs to develop.
a high-end MB has laser-guided cruise control. a high-end lexus has automatic parallel parking. twenty years ago, high-end vehicles were the first to have airbags. the premiums these vehicles command is due to the safety and performance features they offer. men want these items because they offer quantifiable advantages over cheaper cars.
in the thousands of years since man has tanned animal skins to make bags, has there been a breakthrough in bag design other than the invention of the zipper?
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576294&forum_id=2#7557850 |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:05 AM Author: narrow-minded ebony legend kitchen question begging (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558128) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:44 PM Author: Hairraiser hilarious garrison depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557942) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:50 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558000) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:01 AM Author: overrated address gunner 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558100) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:46 PM Author: Talented walnut alpha gaming laptop Yes, 1K isnt what it used to be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7557954) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:54 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse Question for everyone: guy spends 4000 on a bespoke suit - vulgar consumerism analogous to 1000 dollar handbag? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558040) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:21 AM Author: Heady pistol Yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558250) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:23 AM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma Yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558268) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:29 AM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse Good, at least this shows it's not an obvious gender bias. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558306) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:30 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur I felt weird about dropping $750 for my nice interview suit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558312) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:35 AM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse If you're ever in Hong Kong, you can get a very passable bespoke suit for ~500. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558342) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:37 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur Never been. Would love to go sometime. I'll look for a Richard Clayderman look-alike when I go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558359) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:35 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner That's no more necessary than a 1k bag. Now you really have no credibility. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558347) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:40 AM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma To be fair, you can get a perfectly serviceable bag for $50; the same cannot be said of a suit. I think it would be pretty difficult to find a suit for less than $200.
A $750 suit is, IMO, a lot like a $200 bag. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:46 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur If I had better grades, I would've walked into OCI with a $200 suit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558423) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:49 AM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma Pre-tax and tailoring, I went $340. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558440) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:51 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner And shoes :). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558451) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:52 AM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma I already wear them about 3 times a week. Once I start working, I'll wear them 5 times a week for at least 5 years.
I wouldn't have spent $200 on shoes, except that the $130 pair I got were absolute rubbish and fell apart after 5 months of relatively light use. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:55 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner I don't think they will last 5 years, though if you buy another pair and alternate that will add to the life of both. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558486) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:47 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner At that point it's a measurment of scale I suppose, but the thing is he didn't need it, he bought it becuase for whatever reason (style, quality etc) he thought it was $350 better than what you think is a passable suit. Personally I can find suits and things like that on sale and spend the difference of bags etc which last and where quality is more noticable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558424) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:51 AM Author: talking crystalline friendly grandma >>At that point it's a measurement of scale I suppose<<
I think that's precisely the point being made. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:54 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner So he wasted less money based on the same principle. The same way I'll waste less in other areas. I just don't see the problem if you aren't like that about everything. And you know what I realized as a kinda funny side note, you probably have spent more on a pair of shoes than I ever have :). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558477) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:43 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur a) I would tell you not to be an idiot but that would be pointless.
b) My parents wanted to give me more than that to buy a suit as a gift. I refused.
c) A bag is an accessory. Pretty much everyone in LS has at least one nice suit for interviews, functions etc. Rest of my wardrobe is modest. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:49 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Did you buy nice shoes to go with that suit? Nice belt? I asked you above and you never answered but do you not by any unnecessary consumer goods. Also, I think there was a thread a while back about how many bags and shoes women owned. Most women seem to own way more stuff than me, I'd rather have fewer nice things than 40 pairs of shoes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558441) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:51 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur $20 belt at Burlington. Shoes were $60 or something on sale at a small store. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558456) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:55 PM Author: Violet aphrodisiac library round eye You guys act like a 1k bag is a huge deal. Most girl bags run $600+ nowadays, and most girls have a dozen bags.
Priorities for girls are: bags + shoes. Pretty simple actually. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:21 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle fluffy shrine I think that you are wrong when you say that "most" girls do this. Maybe most girls within a very limited socioeconomic class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558255) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:22 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur What's the most you've spent on a handbag? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558261) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:10 AM Author: Cocky Property Newt My priorities are oddly out of whack with what they should be, apparently.
Idiot. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:54 PM Author: Violet aphrodisiac library round eye You're obviously not a girl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560885) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 11:58 PM Author: sick supple lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558082) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:00 AM Author: Trip bright casino Further proof that xoxo is full of virgins and faggots. And fake women who are surprisingly well versed in the curious economics of handbag shopping. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558092) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:30 AM Author: Heady pistol This whole thread is ridiculous. The question was whether you would date someone who would spend a grand on a bag. For many people the answer is no, because to them wasting $1000 on a tampon carrying case displays preferences that are completely at odds with their own. I don't see how you can argue with this. Spending $1000 on a bag will always make someone a vapid bitch in my opinion, there really isn't anything you can do about that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558313) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:37 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner And saying what you just did and starting threads about it will make you an uptight, judgmental ass in my opinion, so at least we're even. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558360) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:48 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur If Mother Teresa and Hitler thought of each other as asses, they'd be even too, according to your logic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558437) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:52 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Oh now I wouldn't go so far as to compare you judgmental morons to Hitler. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558462) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 8:49 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur Showing good judgment =/= judgmental.
HTH |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 9:02 AM Author: Heady pistol I guess its a good thing I didn't start this thread then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559572) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:01 AM Author: sepia diverse water buffalo trailer park What seems to always get the handbag debates going to such an extent is that the girls on this board who buy such expensive things are also the same girls who seem to sniff at others who buy jeans for less than $200 or Coach purses. There's nothing wrong with expensive taste, especially if you're earning good money and are financially responsible, but it's vapid twattery to act superior to other women who have different priorities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558525) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:03 AM Author: Soul-stirring Corner I've never spent 200 bucks on jeans. I don't usually care for Coach becuase it's turned into low quality crap. It's certainly not cheap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558548) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:07 AM Author: sepia diverse water buffalo trailer park I'm just throwing out examples. I remember someone else mentioning that they didn't own a pair of jeans that were less than $150. You're sugary, right?
I'm really bad about spending money except for when it comes to food. I'm totally inept at shopping for myself so I have very little brand awareness. How has Coach turned to crap? I always thought that a lot of their goods looked very nice and wore well.
Edit: why did you switch from sugarywitch? That was a really cute sn. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:11 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Oh thanks, I just figured it was time for a change. She might come back. Coach at one point made wonderful stuff, but the demand for their things is so high right now that they can peddle crap and people buy it. It just get's me going when people will sit around thinking I'm somehow bad for how I "waste" my money when they just waste on other things. :)
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Date: February 7th, 2007 8:31 AM Author: Drab range That's a very valid point. Sniffing at other people who don't like clothes as much or prefer different styles is rude - it's not the business of clotheshorses to expect them to spend their money on that instead of on things they enjoy more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559503) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:01 AM Author: canary rigpig queen of the night For me it's that the value girls derive from these is most likely something like "hey look at me! I have soooooo much money I could buy this ultra-expensive bag and you can't!" What other explanation is there for spending the exorbitant markup? I can't put my penis into a girl who thinks like that and sleep well at night. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7558533) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:27 PM Author: haunting generalized bond TITCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7563787) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 4:04 AM Author: chartreuse lay how the hell did this topic get so many posts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559365) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 9:03 AM Author: buck-toothed box office boltzmann Nearly 400 posts. Jeez. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559573) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:29 AM Author: Lavender mentally impaired point lettuce Here's my issue, and I think this is what a lot of other guys think as well.
It's one thing to spend a more money on an item that gives you more value/functionality/quality. As an example, most people would not think it was ridiculous to spend $400 on an iPod that has 80GB of storage and plays movies even though there are mp3 players out there for $50 that have 256MB of storage and don't play video. Similarly, I certainly don't find it ridiculous to spend more money on a handbag because it is larger, or better quality so that it won't fall apart or look ratty.
That said, most guys find it ridiculous when a girl buys a $1K handbag that, for all intents and purposes, is the same size/quality/function as a bag she could have purchased for $350, except that the more expensive bag is "Fendi" or "Gucci". It's analagous to a guy who could buy an Acura TL for $35K or a car almost the same as a TL, except that it has a Rolls Royce badge on it and some minor bells and whistles, for $100K. In both cases, you have to question someone who is willing to spend so much extra money for what amount to a very small gain in utility at the margin. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:32 AM Author: Heady pistol This is all correct. The funny thing is that the girls in this thread have been trying to justify the purchase instead of facing the absolute fact that owning a $1K bag makes them less attractive to most men. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559818) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:36 AM Author: Drab range I think you're misinterpreting people disagreeing with your reasoning with not realizing you feel that way. You can face the fact without approving.
As for the "this stores more" argument, it's kind of a shallow one. Why does a device that stores more have more value? Why does a device that plays media have value at all? |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:42 AM Author: Lavender mentally impaired point lettuce Think about my car example. Would you find it strange if a guy bought a car very similar to a TL except that it has Rolls Royce badging and cost $65K more than a TL? I certainly would. I would find it odd that someone spent $65K more on a car for the simple purpose of a badge that shows that he spent $65K more on a car.
An mp3 player that stores more information serves a purpose. Maybe I have 100 CDs that I want to store electronically. I can do that on an iPod but not a $50 mp3 player. I am not spending an extra $350 on the iPod simply because it has the name iPod. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:48 AM Author: Drab range I'm not a car person, so this is not a good example to me. I have trouble seeing differences beyond styling in luxury cars versus decent quality midpriced cars, and don't really understand why people care to spend money on minor differences in speed and handling except to say that they drive an X or a Y. I recognize that other people perceive differences and respect what makes them happy, but I don't really get it.
But what is the ultimate purpose of storing those CDs? What do your ipod and your CDs do that is useful? |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:56 AM Author: Lavender mentally impaired point lettuce You're missing my point. I admit that bags have value. I admit that expensive bags have more value.
What is troubling is someone who spends a lot more on a bag that is largely similar to another.
If Mr. X bought a suit for $1K that fit perfectly, was made very well, holds up over time and looks fantastic, would you find it odd that Mr. X bought a suit that did the exact same things except that it was Ralph Lauren Black Label and cost me $10K? I would, because the person places $9K of value on a label, which either (a) makes that person feel good, which is shallow, or (b) is meant to show others that Mr. X dropped $10K on a suit? |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:00 AM Author: Drab range I assure you that I understand your argument.
I'm asking you a further question - why prizing a label is worse than the many other preferences people have. What is the purpose of having a suit that looks fantastic? Why do people need to have contraptions that hold prerecorded music?
I'd also say that I think it's not a proven presumption that clothing items and accessories level out at a very low level. Just as I do not like cars enough to discern or value differences between upper end models and midrange ones, I think you should at least consider the possibility that you don't know enough about items that don't interest you to judge their objective quality. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:12 AM Author: Lavender mentally impaired point lettuce >> I'm asking you a further question - why prizing a label is worse than the many other preferences people have. What is the purpose of having a suit that looks fantastic? Why do people need to have contraptions that hold prerecorded music? <<
I suppose this is personal preference on people's personalities. I can at least understand, even if I don't agree, as to why someone spends a lot of money on something that serves a function, is higher quality, etc. What bothers me is someone who spends money for a label, or something that provides very little tangible marginal benefit at a great cost.
>> I'd also say that I think it's not a proven presumption that clothing items and accessories level out at a very low level. Just as I do not like cars enough to discern or value differences between upper end models and midrange ones, I think you should at least consider the possibility that you don't know enough about items that don't interest you to judge their objective quality. <<
Agreed. I was just using these as examples.
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:15 AM Author: Drab range If it correlates with personalities, it might be valid. I'm not really sure it does. As for marginal benefit, there are a lot of items for which that is subjective. What would you think of a person who spent a great deal of money on expensive artwork, which to you was no more valuable than very inexpensive decorative items.
That's fiar. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:22 AM Author: Lavender mentally impaired point lettuce For me it's not that someone spends money, it's why they spent it.
I can understand why someone would spend a lot of money on artwork if they loved art. Here's what I find troubling. Suppose someone saw two paintings that they abosultely loved where one was painted by a recent artist being sold for $30,000 and one was painted by Van Goh and was being sold for $500,000. I would understand if that person wanted the Van Goh because it was a known commodity and was likely to hold its value. What I would not like is if that person wanted the Van Goh simply because they wanted to show that they bought a Van Goh and let everyone know they paid $500K for a painting. It's odd to me that someone would place an additional $470K of value on impressing people or looking "high society". |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:25 AM Author: Drab range What if the person bought the painting by the recent artist instead? The person in question is buying it because they like it, even though you find it no more aesthetically valuable than a $200 painting from a store.
Alternately, what if someone buying a handbag simply likes that bag, for its visual properties or whatever? |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:29 AM Author: Lavender mentally impaired point lettuce If he bought the $30,000 painting over the $200 one for it to be a status symbol, then I would not agree.
If a woman wanted an alligator skin bag because she's always wanted an alligator skin bag, loves alligator skin and has the money to pay for it, then go ahead. If she chooses one alligator skin bag over another because it is significantly more expensive and is used to show status, then I find that pretty vapid. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:31 AM Author: Drab range What if a bag isn't alligator skin, but is simply a design that she's very attracted to? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560077) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:35 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559829
HTH |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:35 AM Author: Lavender mentally impaired point lettuce Honestly, it depends on how much more she likes that design than another and how much more expensive it is.
If she likes a bag that cost $200 95% as much as one that cost $10,000, I would think that was ridiculous. I usually think it's ridiculous when people place extraordinarily high value on what amounts to very little marginal benefit. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:00 PM Author: Drab range Would you apply the same value to the person purchasing the painting?
Though, realistically speaking, you know if you ask the person they're always going to give a very high valuation. It's not like this is testable IRL. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:43 AM Author: Heady pistol The question posed in this thread was "would you date a girl who spent 1K on a bag?" First of all, most girls really shouldn't be able to answer this because they aren't going to be dating girls anyway. Second, girls have been arguing that the purchase is justifiable, and therefore men have no reason to hold ownership of an overpriced bag against a girl. This argument ignores the fact that men in fact do hold it against women, as is evident by the fact that so many people have said so in this thread.
The "stores more" argument is not shallow, even if it is off topic. Most people buy things because they perform a function. If something performs that function better or has more capabilities a higher price is justified. There is virtually nothing that a 1K bag does that a $300 bag doesn't do, and therefore spending $700 on the more expensive one is stupid. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:53 AM Author: Drab range It's a thread on a message board - people reply, and otherse discuss the replies. And, um, saying that the way a person feels is unreasonable does not deny that they actually feel that way. It implicitly recognizes the fact. (In the same way, you can argue that it's unreasonable to hold certain political or social opinions without denying that people hold them.)
It's shallow because it's not examining whether all "functions" are valid. What is the purpose behind the "function" of an MP3 player? What good does it ultimately do for the user? |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:39 AM Author: Aromatic dun nowag most men on this board, who are insecure losers. most confident, successful men don't look merely at the price tag of things, but rather whether it's something that makes them or someone else happy. if it is, it's worth it.
if you don't want a girl that wants nice things, then avoid them. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:44 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur You got it backwards. Most confident, genuinely accomplished women who aren't insecure don't need exorbitantly priced trinkets to make themselves happy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559862) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:49 AM Author: Aromatic dun nowag this is not true at all. i suggest you align yourself with more respectable elements of society. successful people and their children generally want nice things not only because they connote status, but more importantly because the goods are just of higher quality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559889) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:50 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur I meant confident women who have actually accomplished something by themselves, not people with lots of money and family members who siphon off them. Selective reading is a bad habit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559901) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:54 AM Author: Aromatic dun nowag good luck finding one of those. there are so few 'genuinely accomplished' people out there. with your attitude, it's nearly certain that such women have much better options than you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559913) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:57 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur There are a good number of accomplished and grounded women out there. Some of them are even attractive. You're not looking hard enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559927) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:57 AM Author: Lavender mentally impaired point lettuce See my post above. To pay for higher quality is one thing. To pay for something just because it is expensive and shows that you spent a lot of money is not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559929) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:45 AM Author: Heady pistol I do want a girl who likes nice things. I don't want a girl who decides if something is nice based on the price tag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559867) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:35 AM Author: Sable locus voyeur They will argue with you that the utility's to be had in their aesthetic value. Of course, these are the same vapid women whose aesthetic sensibilities were cultivated by Vogue. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:46 AM Author: lake laughsome church building coffee pot Sure. This thread is stupid and half the rags posting in it have never seen a human vagina. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559873) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:01 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner It really makes me happy when you show up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560188) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:47 AM Author: Comical Pit Indirect Expression Honestly, I would find her more attractive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559878) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:50 AM Author: Cracking Selfie Temple Absolutely. I'd at least give her an shot initially.
For a chick to spend a G on a freakin' bag, I'd assume she (or her family) must be loaded. I've dated rich girls before, it's the shit (it's also how I got my first playstation). Why should I be the only one bringing cheddar to the table?
For the guys who made the blanket "any girl who spends a G on a bag is a vapid bitch" statements, think of it this way: Charles Barkley recently said he blew $2.5 million in Vegas in a six hour period. That to me sounds irresponsible, until you realize what this guy must be worth (well, it's still probably irresponsible, but it certainly doesn't make him vapid or an idiot or anything -- we've all done irresponsible things in our lives and it doesn't make everyone a schmuck). If you have the ends, fuckin' enjoy it.
I personally wouldn't spend that kind of money on a bag, but I might spend considerably more on, say, a hot piece of sports memorabelia, and that's debatably less practical than bag because it has no functional use (unless you view it as an investment, but it's not like I would ever sell a Jordan autographed jersey or something).
I guess the bottom line is, the fact that a girl spends a lot on her handbag doesn't necessarily mean she's a moron or undateable. It might just mean she has loot. Last time I checked that's a plus. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:58 AM Author: provocative deer antler orchestra pit yeah, there seem to be a few doods living a spartan existence on here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7559933) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:19 PM Author: Heady pistol There is a difference between living a spartan existence and not wasting your money on expensive products simply because they are expensive when virtually identical substitutes are available for half the price. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561007) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:54 AM Author: provocative deer antler orchestra pit yes, provided she can afford it but not if she's got 10k in cc debt and is still buying expesnive bags. i like nice things too, and there's nothing wrong with indulgence if you have the means. plus, it'd be handy to be able to point to that the next time i want to buy some expensive bullshit. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:08 AM Author: Umber patrolman spot Yeah provided it wasn't a sign that she was irresponsible with money or she bought it simply as a status symbol.
I don't think I'd even be able to tell if a bag costs a grand just by looking it and nothing would turn me off faster than having her volunteer that information without me asking. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:03 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner I was kind of wondering how the guys would know. Are they going to quiz her on the cost of all of her items? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560199) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:42 PM Author: Umber patrolman spot I hope not. Very tackey. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560401) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:21 PM Author: Heady pistol Why else would someone have a $1000 bag if not as a status symbol? Do you really think they couldn't find a $400 bag that carried their things and looked nice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561012) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 6:51 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner They think this looks nicer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7562415) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:55 AM Author: Smoky Bateful Turdskin Puppy Getting back to the original post, buying a $1000 handbag is stupid, but its better than giving $1000 to poor people so they can buy drugs and malt liquor. Flushing the money down the toilet is better than giving it to poors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560157) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:03 PM Author: Fuchsia doobsian milk I am a guy who owns a $500 briefcase.
I don't see much of a difference. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:14 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt Do you have 10 brief cases just like it, but different? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560244) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:15 PM Author: swashbuckling aqua people who are hurt Upon reflection of all the posts, I believe my opinion is the most correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560250) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:39 PM Author: Exciting nursing home Of course I would. How else can I justify my love for Bruno Maglis? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560381) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:07 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction The real question the bag supporters need to answer is: "If I was unable to take this bag from my home (i.e. others will never know I have it), would I still buy it?" If the answer is no, you are vapid.
I know you will counter with "but I bought the bag to be functional and carry stuff, THE STITCHING IS SO GOOD." OK then, suppose you are allowed to carry the bag and use it to its fullest, and it appears to you as you bought it. However, suppose it appears to others as a plain, styleless $100 bag (in other words, you get this perceived functionality/style for yourself but no gain from others' envy/perception of you). Would you still buy the bag? If no, you are vapid and possibly the lowest scum on this earth. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:09 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Yes, I totally would. And yes, like I said above, I have plenty of nice bags that nobody would be able to classify as designer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560585) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:13 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction No, those that are low key would impress your target audience if you were such a person - people with the same tastes can identify the bag and envy you.
But if solely for personal benefit, I guess I could live with this. I am a huge car nut and would absolutely spend 100k on a car. I would absolutely (maybe even moreso, since I hate showy people) buy it if it appeared to others as a Pinto. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:25 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner Trust me outside of a couple, most of my friends can't tell a designer bag from something I got at target. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560689) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:45 PM Author: Bearded locale sweet tailpipe This seems reasonable. People with decent incomes make the occasional extravagant purchase. If it is something you buy for yourself (not to impress others as the poster above said) i cant hold it against you. Even then, it is not so horrible if you take pleasure in someone commending your taste. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7560828) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 6:50 PM Author: Soul-stirring Corner I get compliments all the time on stuff I paid like 15 bucks for. My response is usually to tell the person how cheap it was and where to get it. It really has little or nothing to do with how much things cost. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7562410) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:26 PM Author: Maize giraffe handbags are not like cars, you cant tell the brand/how much it costs upon looking at it. some of the most expensive handbags are from small designers nobody would be able to identify upon sight. and i dont have enough money to start just collecting handbags, but i have shoes that ive never worn out but i bought because they are beautiful (wrong size sometimes).
your pinto example doesnt fly considering car brands are much more showy and conspicuous than handbag brands and the price will always include a built in factor that itll be shown off when you drive it around in public. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:44 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction reading comp
I am presenting a hypothetical, and my pinto example absolutely works. Basically, I am taking out the "impressing others" element. If anyone buys anything in order to impress others and not for their own benefit and enjoyment, in my opinion they are the most pathetic people on the planet.
If people are buying expensive things solely for themselves, I see no problem with this...at this point it's just a matter of personal preference and whether that person really can afford it. I am a car enthusiast, and would buy a super expensive car that appeals to me, even if I could only drive it on my private island where no one saw it; or others (hypothetically of course, this is impossible) saw me driving a pinto. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:26 PM Author: Maize giraffe your hypo doesnt work in the real world, thats my point. theres not this dichotomy btwn either purely for yourself or purely for impressing others. and im saying for your car example, the fact that you cant drive it on a private island and it will be on the freeway where people will see it and you will still feel proud of your car in public, even though your main reason wasnt to show off.
theres absolutely nothing wrong w/ doing things that may have an element of impressing others anyway, as long as it doesnt drive your purpose in life. when you buy things, theres usually a mix of both, and thats totally normal and human. consumerism and some level of materialism is totally fine compared to stuff like cheating, lying and other things htat truly make people pathetic. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:33 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction It's merely an exercise in examining your motives to do something. I do things purely for myself, and thats rare. Those that do things for others are pretty pathetic in my opinion. I own a pretty showy car and it's kind of embarassing sometimes - I don't get a kick out of getting reactions. I put up with it only because cars are my passion, and I honestly wish people saw it as a pinto. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561350) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:37 PM Author: Maize giraffe ha.
good luck finding a mate if thats your attitude. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:43 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction I can see that you are an idiot. I already have a mate. She, like most others that have come to know me at a deeper level, absolutely appreciate and respect me for these virtues. I cannot comprehend how you would place worrying about what others think of you above the quality of doing things to please yourself. I think you have shown your true colors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561414) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:55 PM Author: Maize giraffe no i just dont have a black and white view like you do and think you either live for yourself or others. life is a lot more fun and easier when you arent so uptight and anal and right off 99% of the population as beneath you b/c theyre being normal and human. i live for myself, first and foremost, but i definitely care what my friends think, and i care to some extent what society thinks too, not so much material things, but on many different aspects. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561509) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 4:10 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction i didn't "right off" 99% of the population and theres nothing uptight or anal about trying to please myself only. How does taking additional considerations into account make life easier exactly? I don't have to force myself to act this way - it's natural because thats who I am. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561595) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:57 PM Author: Drab range I would buy my most expensive bag if no one knew it how much it cost or what brand it was (it's not a terribly upscale one, and I suspect anyone who knows enough about handbags to identify them on sight wouldn't be at all impressed). Would I buy it if it looked like an ugly black nylon bag to everyone but me? Probably not at that price.
But doesn't this apply to anyone who buys clothes that are of better style those provided at Wal-mart? I'm certain everyone on this thread has at least a few items of clothing that were purchased with the intent of appearing more attractive to others. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:48 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction No, I buy my clothes (and, well, everything) for me. If someone doesnt like me because of it or finds me less attractive based on my personal taste, too bad. I truly feel sorry for you if others' potential impressions make a factor in your everyday purchases. How insecure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561124) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:51 PM Author: Drab range You have never, ever bought an item of clothing to conform to others expectations? I'm taking it you don't own a suit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561138) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:01 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction I will retreat a half-step and say that business-related clothing etc should be treated slightly differently. Wearing very bad clothes that show a lack of judgment under some circumstances could have a very real negative impact on your life, i.e. not get a promotion. Then again, thats why there are dress codes...to make everyone appear professional. People can appear professional while still suiting their own tastes and not buy 10k suits simply to impress others.
Otherwise, no, I have never bought anything to conform. And I'm not some weirdo, hippie, emo, punk etc kid - I wear what others would consider normal clothes. I just think people that follow trends to fit in are some of the saddest people on the planet. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:05 PM Author: Cracking Selfie Temple "I wear what others would consider normal clothes. I just think people that follow trends to fit in are some of the saddest people on the planet."
There's a hypocrisy buried in here somewhere... |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:09 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction No, this is just to counter those that will say "so you dress like a goth, trying to be all anti-conformist, and end up being a conformist." All I'm saying is I don't go out of my way to look different to make some statement. For example, if I happened to like cargo pants, I would wear them right now, even though they were "in style" like 8 years ago...and I wouldn't look like some freak in doing so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561212) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:16 PM Author: Drab range Cargo pants are a pretty tame example. What if you happened to like something not generally associated with your gender, or something that hasn't been in style in your lifetime? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561250) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:22 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction I would absolutely wear it. Some of the stuff I wear is pretty questionable as to WTF I was thinking, other things I'm sure people would think I have great fashion sense. The point is, I'm wearing what I like, not what others like. If my taste somehow was perfectly correlated with the current trends (trust me, its not), I would still go buy all the trendy clothes. If you don't believe me, thats fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561281) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:26 PM Author: Drab range I'm just a little suspicious. People I know who've really gone and examined their possessions and how much they cost and why they own them (it was a common religious exercise where I grew up) were generally less confident about their motives than before they looked at them.
Obviously there's no way for you to prove this to me so I won't ask you to. But at minimum, I think that your outlook condemns almost everyone in this society.
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:30 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction Yeah, it probably does condemn everyone. But I am much happier for being able to make myself happy and not worry about others. I encourage you to do the same, if even only to a limited extent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561321) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:45 PM Author: Drab range I'm not sure why you think my life revolves around such things simply because I recognize a pretty common feature of human behavior. There's a balance between allowing something to run your life and being in denial about fairly common instincts that likely effect your behavior. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561438) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:50 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction I never said that, or even implied it. You seem very defensive, and perhaps should reexamine your motives for doing a lot of the things you do in life. Even if buying stuff (and thinking about buying stuff) consumes a miniscule portion of your life, that portion will be much happier if focusing on yourself and not others so much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561468) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:54 PM Author: Drab range The tone was somewhat offensive, since you haven't really established yourself of relatively more free of material biases by my standards (especially as a car freak) and your advice on my purchasing habits was not asked for. Then again, I offer advice without being asked and in a similar manner myself, probably more than I should.
I'm primarily defensive because this topic comes up over and over again on a board that's otherwise terribly obsessed with money and other goods. The things women like are singled out so often that it seems like an extension of the misogyny that's so common here. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 4:03 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction I have never condemned anyone for buying expensive things. I am concerned with motive. The suspected (and largely confirmed) motive of those that buy expensive handbags is what makes men bash women on here - that they do it to show off to others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561546) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 4:06 PM Author: Drab range I've read your posts - but my posts on your little part of this thread are an extension of the thread as a whole.
I think there's enough male showing off here for many posters, not necessarily you, to be equally implicated. Car threads and suit threads involve this to at least some degree, and if you really want to veer off topic there are a number of threads about women and showing them off to others. I suspect the girls here are easily condemnable by less materialistic folks, but I think the board in general would fare badly.
I suppose there's also the larger question of "I want people to think I look pretty" and whether it's morally more or less superior than "I like fast things", but at some point this thread is getting too long. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 4:12 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction yeah I'm done here. And I didnt mean to bash so much...on some level I was trying to give everyone some (in my view) useful advice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561608) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:32 PM Author: Vivacious Sadistic Sanctuary Rowan, you seem to be arguing that a person either is materialistic or is not. There are degrees of materialism, and lots of guys just think girls are more materialistic than they are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561341) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:42 PM Author: Drab range I don't think I'm arguing that - I didn't leave a lot of room for a person to be non-materialistic.
I think everyone is materialistic to some degree, and agree that there are different degrees of it. I'm just using a different way of assessing materialism - to me the danger signs of excess are taking it so far that it's fiscally irresponsible or placing so much importance on it that you're frequently judging other people based on what they own and like. A lot of guys seem to be defining it as liking items that are related to appearance and aesthetics, which conveniently excludes much male consumption. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:45 PM Author: Vivacious Sadistic Sanctuary I think the males are simply expressing a preference for dating girls who value functionality over aesthetics. Is this really so bad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561434) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:49 PM Author: Drab range If they simply said "I like X over Y, therefore I think I will be most compatible with another person who also likes X over Y", there's certainly nothing wrong with that.
I think the namecalling and the pretense that others are materialistic while they are not are both problematic, at least among those who seem to be equally interested in different material goods (including ones with high, but not particularly useful, functionality). |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:13 PM Author: Drab range What about at social events? Do you wear suits, or other formal dark clothing, to weddings and funerals?
Excessive conformism certainly isn't a virtue, but I generally don't believe people who say they have never bought anything (or even anything non-business) to conform or because of how other people perceive it. I mean, of all the possible garments you could wear, it's likely that you've settled on clothing styles and colors that have been reasonably popular among people of your gender in your country in the last 50 years. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:27 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction I wear what fits the occassion, but with my own personal style, whether or not it is popular. For example, if I had to wear dress pants somewhere and pleats were very much in style, I would still wear flat fronts because I think pleats are fucking awful.
To the other point, I only have so much to choose from and I am pretty lazy. If there was some Russian garment that perfectly suited me, I would not travel there to get it, search all over the internet to find it etc. I can only choose from whats there. But if you want further proof, I routinely wear things I bought 8-10 years ago, as a teen. I liked them then, and if I still like them now, I wear them. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:30 PM Author: Vivacious Sadistic Sanctuary That's a matter of convenience, not conformism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561330) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:44 PM Author: Drab range Maaaaaaybe. Those items are the most commonly available ones. Perhaps the test is seeing if a person updates after 20 years, when things are truly unfashionable, or whether they wear common garments but sometimes to the wrong occasions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561421) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:47 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction Right now I am wearing a shirt I bought when I was 15. And yes, I wore it to class too. Does that pass your test? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561447) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:51 PM Author: Drab range Probably not, unless you were 15 in the 80s and your shirt is visibly dated. I'm not sure young people can pass this prong of the test - I was thinking primarily of that little old man you see around who wears a suit that is obviously from many decades ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561474) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:14 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse I imagine his answer would be that he owns a suit for his own enjoyment not to fit in with others.
I understand this argument to an extent, but I think it's pretty unrealistic to say that we can purchase everything w/o consideration for how it will be perceived by others, even if the third party perception only plays a small role in the decision. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:17 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction wrong, see above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561255) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:19 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse Second paragraph still stands. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561269) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:36 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction No, it doesn't. Third party perception doesn't have to play any role, with the (largely imposed) exception of business dress. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561367) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:42 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse My comment was not addressed to you specifically, but people generally.
I find it dubious that you make all your purchases with reference to only your own enjoyment, and that third party judgment plays absolutely zero part. However, I'll accept it for the sake of argument. I do not accept that this sentiment is true for most or many people. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:45 PM Author: mind-boggling son of senegal dysfunction You are buying it to wear or use for yourself, not anyone else. The way people perceive you does not matter to a secure person. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561435) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 3:49 PM Author: Mildly autistic codepig meetinghouse Yes, I said that *you* believe this is true for *you*. I also said this is not true for most. I did not quantify the degree to which this plays into their choices. I just made a purely descriptive statement that some consideration of third party perception does come into play for the sartorial choices of a majority of people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561459) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:22 PM Author: Chrome bespoke dilemma jew Subject: Final Authoritative Answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7561018) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:24 PM Author: Fear-inspiring vengeful filthpig center I WOULD!!!
All you bitches who got 1g handbags. I can tell the difference between the one bought at Armani boutique and the flea market. JU KNOW???? so holler at a player. I wants to fuck with all you hoes for real. That shit means something to me. On the really though. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 6:52 PM Author: hairless naked forum would i date my mom? gross (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7562420) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2007 9:12 PM Author: haunting generalized bond NO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7989182) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2007 11:45 PM Author: Idiotic azn sandwich It's frivolous, but so are many things that people buy. If the girl has a job that can afford her a $1K handbag, or if she experiences some sort of financial windfall and wants to treat herself, who cares?! Is it any more frivolous to "overspend" on a vacation, rent, taking cabs everywhere, a car etc...?
I'd consider it more of a red flag if she bought such things and didn't have the money to really afford them, or if she bought them using someone else's money. If she makes 6 figures or can otherwise easily afford the bag then I don't see the problem. |
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Date: April 24th, 2007 12:09 PM Author: Appetizing theater black woman Is this a discussion about sugary?
If so, why not? She's pretty cute and doesn't seem elitist or d-baggy in any way. |
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Date: April 24th, 2007 5:50 PM Author: cobalt pungent fanboi public bath She has a disgusting and vile personality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7994629) |
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Date: April 24th, 2007 12:10 PM Author: Lilac Ape Stage Would you date one who had 3 or 4 250 dollar coach bags? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7992465) |
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Date: April 24th, 2007 5:44 PM Author: Dark genital piercing This has to be the longest thread ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7994597) |
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Date: April 24th, 2007 5:55 PM Author: startling fortuitous meteor What a large thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576187&forum_id=2#7994659) |