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What %age of ppl fail the Bar Character and Fitness Test?

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useless multi-billionaire
  02/06/09
I bet at least 5% of law students have misdemeanors on their...
useless multi-billionaire
  02/06/09
Probably 2% or less. I think that basically what it takes...
Haunting razzmatazz pocket flask
  02/06/09
...or people with less than stellar credit scores. With the...
Misunderstood Messiness
  02/06/09
What happens if you fail C&F? I heard of someone failin...
yapping wonderful genital piercing
  02/06/09
You have 49 other chances. I read a magazine about a guy ...
Cruel-hearted Selfie
  02/06/09
So if you fail NY once, you can't try again?
yapping wonderful genital piercing
  02/06/09
I think it probably depends on why. Like if you fail beca...
Seedy bateful boiling water site
  02/06/09
This was a non-disclosure issue. What then?
yapping wonderful genital piercing
  02/06/09
What was not disclosed? I mean, I think dishonesty is har...
Seedy bateful boiling water site
  02/06/09
My guess is that you'd have to do something like fall on the...
laughsome learning disabled house
  02/06/09
Sure, this guy tried several times. Usually you need to w...
Cruel-hearted Selfie
  02/06/09
Do you have to disclose the fact that you failed in another ...
Twisted den filthpig
  02/06/09
Yes in my state, and probably every other state. This will ...
Cruel-hearted Selfie
  02/06/09
I failed character and fitness and was fired from my firm be...
Seedy bateful boiling water site
  02/06/09
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Twisted den filthpig
  02/06/09
Honesty is the best policy.
Seedy bateful boiling water site
  02/06/09
How will C&F look upon a failure to disclose two arrests...
Electric range water buffalo
  02/06/09
It will look bad. Very bad. About the only way to salvage ...
grizzly free-loading locale liquid oxygen
  02/06/09
You really think it's that bad? Even if the two arrests were...
Electric range water buffalo
  02/06/09
You should be okay. See below.
yapping wonderful genital piercing
  02/06/09
Thanks. I need to lawyer-up next year before I take the bar.
Electric range water buffalo
  02/06/09
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Doobsian sanctuary
  02/14/09
Can be overcome. I know someone who didn't disclose a DUI o...
yapping wonderful genital piercing
  02/06/09
What state? Are some states more known for being hard asses...
slate cerebral faggot firefighter
  02/14/09


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Date: February 6th, 2009 1:02 AM
Author: useless multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10868393)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 1:03 AM
Author: useless multi-billionaire

I bet at least 5% of law students have misdemeanors on their records.

And another 5% have some kind of academic dishonesty shit on their records too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10868394)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 6:53 AM
Author: Haunting razzmatazz pocket flask

Probably 2% or less.

I think that basically what it takes is having some relatively serious shit in your past, lying about it on your application, and then having it found out. Or having some really, REALLY serious shit in your past and telling the truth about it.

I think academic dishonesty may do it, too, depending on how serious it was and how contrite you are about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10868938)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:35 AM
Author: Misunderstood Messiness

...or people with less than stellar credit scores. With the economy in the tank, firms are starting to rely on associates to take out loans to support the firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869468)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:36 AM
Author: yapping wonderful genital piercing

What happens if you fail C&F? I heard of someone failing and don't really know where he goes from here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869483)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:52 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted Selfie

You have 49 other chances.

I read a magazine about a guy who failed in NY because of a criminal record. He got admitted in NJ and does cases in NY pro hac vice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869584)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:54 AM
Author: yapping wonderful genital piercing

So if you fail NY once, you can't try again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869599)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:55 AM
Author: Seedy bateful boiling water site

I think it probably depends on why.

Like if you fail because you have 3 drug convictions in the past two years, they might let you apply again if you go to rehab and stay clean for a year.

But if you are Jeff Skilling or something, there is really no point in reapplying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869605)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:56 AM
Author: yapping wonderful genital piercing

This was a non-disclosure issue. What then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869613)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:57 AM
Author: Seedy bateful boiling water site

What was not disclosed?

I mean, I think dishonesty is harder to "put behind you" then being crazy or drunk or guilty of a crime not involving dishonest. But I don't know specfically what this person should do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869629)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 12:00 PM
Author: laughsome learning disabled house

My guess is that you'd have to do something like fall on the sword and apologetically acknowledge it, and then reapply in 3 or 4 years with a contrite letter talking about how you've learned a lesson. But who knows. My sense is that if the bar thinks you lied on your application, it is without exaggeration worse than being convicted of a serious felony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869655)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:56 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted Selfie

Sure, this guy tried several times.

Usually you need to wait a year or more to have any chance though. Often the committee looks favorably on PC volunteer work during that period.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869620)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:56 AM
Author: Twisted den filthpig

Do you have to disclose the fact that you failed in another jurisdiction?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869615)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:58 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted Selfie

Yes in my state, and probably every other state. This will automatically get your application reviewed with the highest level of scrutiny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869636)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:40 AM
Author: Seedy bateful boiling water site

I failed character and fitness and was fired from my firm because once, in 1996, I was filing out a marketing survey and indicated that my favorite candy was "Baby Ruth." This was not true. I much preferred gummi bears. But there was a cute girl sitting next to me at the mall and I didn't want her to know I liked gummi bears. It seemed gay.

Anyway, I disclosed this on my application at the advice of my law schools dean and was denied admission to the bar and fired. Now I'm the assistant undersecretary of the Department of Defense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869502)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:57 AM
Author: Twisted den filthpig

152

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869627)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 12:00 PM
Author: Seedy bateful boiling water site

Honesty is the best policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869652)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 1:22 PM
Author: Electric range water buffalo

How will C&F look upon a failure to disclose two arrests (with no convictions) on a law school application that asked about applicant arrest record?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10870199)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 1:28 PM
Author: grizzly free-loading locale liquid oxygen

It will look bad. Very bad. About the only way to salvage it is if you were convicted of something bad (like, say, robbery) and disclosed that, but forgot to disclose the two arrests--and they were for something minor, like pot possession. In that case, the adcomm is likely to see itself as not being deceived, since you disclosed something a lot worse than what you didn't disclose. They'll tell the C&F people that, and the C&F people will accordingly look at the matter much less seriously. But otherwise, it will not go over well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10870225)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 3:11 PM
Author: Electric range water buffalo

You really think it's that bad? Even if the two arrests were for minor things and charges were dropped? Even if I am honest about it with C&F?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10871035)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 3:13 PM
Author: yapping wonderful genital piercing

You should be okay. See below.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10871054)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 3:15 PM
Author: Electric range water buffalo

Thanks. I need to lawyer-up next year before I take the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10871065)



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Date: February 14th, 2009 3:20 AM
Author: Doobsian sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10920004)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 3:13 PM
Author: yapping wonderful genital piercing

Can be overcome. I know someone who didn't disclose a DUI on his law school apps and then disclosed them on his C&F. He is now a practicing attorney.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10871050)



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Date: February 14th, 2009 2:43 AM
Author: slate cerebral faggot firefighter

What state? Are some states more known for being hard asses than others?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10919917)