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What %age of ppl fail the Bar Character and Fitness Test?

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because of gay posse  02/06/09
I bet at least 5% of law students have misdemeanors on their...
because of gay posse  02/06/09
Probably 2% or less. I think that basically what it takes...
MOARDONGSPLZ  02/06/09
...or people with less than stellar credit scores. With the...
,,,,,,,,,,,....................,,,,,,,,,,,,,...  02/06/09
What happens if you fail C&F? I heard of someone failin...
Small-Titted Landbeast  02/06/09
You have 49 other chances. I read a magazine about a guy ...
America is Bankrupt  02/06/09
So if you fail NY once, you can't try again?
Small-Titted Landbeast  02/06/09
I think it probably depends on why. Like if you fail beca...
Dr. Science  02/06/09
This was a non-disclosure issue. What then?
Small-Titted Landbeast  02/06/09
What was not disclosed? I mean, I think dishonesty is har...
Dr. Science  02/06/09
My guess is that you'd have to do something like fall on the...
Homo Queer Fag Bear Daddy  02/06/09
Sure, this guy tried several times. Usually you need to w...
America is Bankrupt  02/06/09
Do you have to disclose the fact that you failed in another ...
You Can Still  02/06/09
Yes in my state, and probably every other state. This will ...
America is Bankrupt  02/06/09
I failed character and fitness and was fired from my firm be...
Dr. Science  02/06/09
152
You Can Still  02/06/09
Honesty is the best policy.
Dr. Science  02/06/09
How will C&F look upon a failure to disclose two arrests...
westernlog  02/06/09
It will look bad. Very bad. About the only way to salvage ...
Levi-Civita symbol  02/06/09
You really think it's that bad? Even if the two arrests were...
westernlog  02/06/09
You should be okay. See below.
Small-Titted Landbeast  02/06/09
Thanks. I need to lawyer-up next year before I take the bar.
westernlog  02/06/09
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Foggy Bottom Dreaming  02/14/09
Can be overcome. I know someone who didn't disclose a DUI o...
Small-Titted Landbeast  02/06/09
What state? Are some states more known for being hard asses...
Hilldog!  02/14/09


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Date: February 6th, 2009 1:02 AM
Author: because of gay posse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10868393)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 1:03 AM
Author: because of gay posse

I bet at least 5% of law students have misdemeanors on their records.

And another 5% have some kind of academic dishonesty shit on their records too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10868394)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 6:53 AM
Author: MOARDONGSPLZ

Probably 2% or less.

I think that basically what it takes is having some relatively serious shit in your past, lying about it on your application, and then having it found out. Or having some really, REALLY serious shit in your past and telling the truth about it.

I think academic dishonesty may do it, too, depending on how serious it was and how contrite you are about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10868938)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:35 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,....................,,,,,,,,,,,,,...

...or people with less than stellar credit scores. With the economy in the tank, firms are starting to rely on associates to take out loans to support the firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869468)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:36 AM
Author: Small-Titted Landbeast (Worst parodier ever.)

What happens if you fail C&F? I heard of someone failing and don't really know where he goes from here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869483)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:52 AM
Author: America is Bankrupt

You have 49 other chances.

I read a magazine about a guy who failed in NY because of a criminal record. He got admitted in NJ and does cases in NY pro hac vice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869584)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:54 AM
Author: Small-Titted Landbeast (Worst parodier ever.)

So if you fail NY once, you can't try again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869599)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:55 AM
Author: Dr. Science

I think it probably depends on why.

Like if you fail because you have 3 drug convictions in the past two years, they might let you apply again if you go to rehab and stay clean for a year.

But if you are Jeff Skilling or something, there is really no point in reapplying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869605)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:56 AM
Author: Small-Titted Landbeast (Worst parodier ever.)

This was a non-disclosure issue. What then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869613)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:57 AM
Author: Dr. Science

What was not disclosed?

I mean, I think dishonesty is harder to "put behind you" then being crazy or drunk or guilty of a crime not involving dishonest. But I don't know specfically what this person should do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869629)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 12:00 PM
Author: Homo Queer Fag Bear Daddy (bt@clownpenis.fart)

My guess is that you'd have to do something like fall on the sword and apologetically acknowledge it, and then reapply in 3 or 4 years with a contrite letter talking about how you've learned a lesson. But who knows. My sense is that if the bar thinks you lied on your application, it is without exaggeration worse than being convicted of a serious felony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869655)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:56 AM
Author: America is Bankrupt

Sure, this guy tried several times.

Usually you need to wait a year or more to have any chance though. Often the committee looks favorably on PC volunteer work during that period.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869620)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:56 AM
Author: You Can Still

Do you have to disclose the fact that you failed in another jurisdiction?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869615)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:58 AM
Author: America is Bankrupt

Yes in my state, and probably every other state. This will automatically get your application reviewed with the highest level of scrutiny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869636)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:40 AM
Author: Dr. Science

I failed character and fitness and was fired from my firm because once, in 1996, I was filing out a marketing survey and indicated that my favorite candy was "Baby Ruth." This was not true. I much preferred gummi bears. But there was a cute girl sitting next to me at the mall and I didn't want her to know I liked gummi bears. It seemed gay.

Anyway, I disclosed this on my application at the advice of my law schools dean and was denied admission to the bar and fired. Now I'm the assistant undersecretary of the Department of Defense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869502)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 11:57 AM
Author: You Can Still

152

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869627)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 12:00 PM
Author: Dr. Science

Honesty is the best policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10869652)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 1:22 PM
Author: westernlog

How will C&F look upon a failure to disclose two arrests (with no convictions) on a law school application that asked about applicant arrest record?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10870199)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 1:28 PM
Author: Levi-Civita symbol (IM IN UR MATRICEEZ, CALCULATIN UR DETERMINANTZ)

It will look bad. Very bad. About the only way to salvage it is if you were convicted of something bad (like, say, robbery) and disclosed that, but forgot to disclose the two arrests--and they were for something minor, like pot possession. In that case, the adcomm is likely to see itself as not being deceived, since you disclosed something a lot worse than what you didn't disclose. They'll tell the C&F people that, and the C&F people will accordingly look at the matter much less seriously. But otherwise, it will not go over well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10870225)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 3:11 PM
Author: westernlog

You really think it's that bad? Even if the two arrests were for minor things and charges were dropped? Even if I am honest about it with C&F?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10871035)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 3:13 PM
Author: Small-Titted Landbeast (Worst parodier ever.)

You should be okay. See below.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10871054)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 3:15 PM
Author: westernlog

Thanks. I need to lawyer-up next year before I take the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10871065)



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Date: February 14th, 2009 3:20 AM
Author: Foggy Bottom Dreaming (Gold mines, oil wells, shipping and real estate)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10920004)



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Date: February 6th, 2009 3:13 PM
Author: Small-Titted Landbeast (Worst parodier ever.)

Can be overcome. I know someone who didn't disclose a DUI on his law school apps and then disclosed them on his C&F. He is now a practicing attorney.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10871050)



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Date: February 14th, 2009 2:43 AM
Author: Hilldog!

What state? Are some states more known for being hard asses than others?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=928717&forum_id=2#10919917)