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Date: May 6th, 2008 11:32 AM Author: Smoky excitant yarmulke Subject: Official List 1. Washington University in St. Louis - Med school is all that keeps it afloat. That and its "grassroots" marketing ploy which has snared the tools of tomorrow. The post-grad job opportunities are atrocious when compared to any institution bar Penn State (or any #50 and below ranked college).
2. Emory - Coca Cola and Med school allows this JAP toolish ugly shithole to miraculously stay above top 30. Basically another shitty clone of WashU in that its only redeeming factor lies in med and that it too has shitty job opportunities with a shitty business school (Olin and Guizetta are probably no better than a business degree from Baruch or a SUNY/CUNY).
3. Vanderbilt - Hot girls, a decent but not quite good enough law school, and its convenient location in the South where few understand the meaning of the word "education" grants this TTT its overrated ranking. If you're not in the law school, you better hope that whore you're fucking is worth some money in a divorce. After all, you should get something from contracting all those STIs.
4. NYU - Enough fags for a frenchman. Tisch and its graduate programs are what save this festering TTT. The location is a draw for rejects everywhere and even Stern's toolish 75% asian population is overrated and can't find a decent job in the past few years. Competes regularly with Stuy High School and Thomas Jefferson High School for applications (transfers) to Top 25s.
5. Notre Dame - Shitty Catholic-run dinosaur only good for football and consequently, a movie named "Rudy". The name itself may sound prestigious, but is good for nothing upon closer analysis.
6. Berkeley - Fabulous grad programs but an overcrowded and shitty ugrad. Huge numbers of community college transfers riddle this school system with class signups that would make any student want to kill themselves. Though engineering ugrad is respectable, any other "fluffball" major is as good as the applicants they let in; community college quality.
7. Umich Ann Arbor - Should be below the likes of UNC and William and Mary. This shitthole's graduate programs are similarily what keeps it afloat. The Ugrad engineerng and bschool are overrated along with the overall school's shitty white trash. With colleges getting harder to get into, this shithole luckily still has over a 50% acceptance rate and will probably suck your cock along with it.
8. Cornell - An "ok" engineering program along with Ivy status do not cover up this TTTs overratedness. The education sucks, the location sucks, the people suck, and the jobs suck.
9. Upenn - Business school and Ivy status make up for its mediocre status in other areas.
10. Uchicago - Economics is not everything. Any fag that hires a professional essay writer and a SAT prep course/tutor will be allowed entrance even with a shitty GPA or no extra curriculars. |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 11:42 AM Author: Irradiated carmine national security agency Subject: sounds about right. but to continue this discussion... i also nominate Columbia:
10. Columbia: HYP reject school, if weren't for its location in NYC, it would be a Upenn. Piss poor excuse of an engineering school, school of general studies/continuing education/teachers college, and on top of the eroding factors from the above mentioned TTT colleges, Barnard people also get a Columbia diploma. What do you have to do to not get a Columbia diploma? |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 12:25 PM Author: Ebony feces step-uncle's house While you are generally right about Columbia, you should be careful when talking about general studies/continuing ed. They are not one in the same.
General Studies is a legitimate undergraduate division of Columbia, along with the college, SEAS, and arguably Barnard. From my understanding, you essentially cannot transfer into Columbia College if you're more than one year out of high school (which is 90% of the transfers that Columbia attracts, many of whom are former military personnel who are just as qualified as the CC students to be there but who aren't eligible because they've been out of high school more than a year).
School of Continuing Ed is a different story. It's a typical, unselective cash cow division offering degrees in things like "real estate brokerage" and "nonprofit leadership." GS, on the other hand, is a selective undergraduate division of the university.
But the rest of your point still stands. |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 4:20 PM Author: aquamarine adventurous church building mad cow disease Then Columbia should include GS numbers in their stats. The GS program is extremely large compared to the ones at other schools, and has an admit rate around 50%, and includes anyone who takes a year off after high school and applies to Columbia looking to backdoor in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9743432) |
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Date: May 7th, 2008 12:01 AM Author: Racy sneaky criminal "They are not one in the same."
"One AND the same" is the term. Think about it. |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 12:28 PM Author: Infuriating Amethyst Dingle Berry Subject: You forgot to mention Columbia's harlem location. Hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9742172) |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 10:10 PM Author: flatulent hell patrolman Wow Columbia Guy, your post has so many references to "shitholes" and sucking, as well as hateful rants against Jews, gays, and Asians. Are you sure you are not a Nazi? Maybe you need to visit the Columbia health clinic and get some help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9745167) |
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Date: May 7th, 2008 1:56 PM Author: Cerebral orchid wagecucks whorehouse Subject: Jews, gays, and Asians??? Lol, forget the health clinic, maybe he should visit the Columbia campus itself sometime! Certainly not the place to be if you have anything against jews, gays, and asians. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9748882) |
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Date: May 7th, 2008 1:22 PM Author: red location quadroon Subject: Harvard is also overated Harvard extension has 100 % admit rate and its graduates receive harvard degree with reading/skills of community college dropouts.
Harvard graduate schools like Design school(80% admit rates), Kennedy School, Education School, Divinity School graduates' intellegence levels similar to BU gradutates. These programs are full of rejects from PhD JD MD MBA programs. Most Idiot-like Harvard graduate are from one of these programs |
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Date: May 7th, 2008 2:48 PM Author: Ocher point the OP is very clearly asian, a Columbia SEAS student, HYPSM reject, and a faggot with a tiny pink dick
hth |
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Date: May 7th, 2008 7:30 PM Author: Ebony feces step-uncle's house nice straw man, assfuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9750578) |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 5:22 AM Author: ivory rough-skinned native idiot to be fair, most urban planning schools have high acceptance rates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9776185) |
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Date: May 21st, 2008 4:36 PM Author: Arousing Property Sandwich not at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9813496) |
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Date: May 12th, 2008 1:52 PM Author: idiotic abode Subject: your life Wow, what a well researched and simultaneously pointless post. Maybe if you applied yourself like this in life you could one day be middle management in a large corporation and blow your brains out after you realize your life is pointless when you find out you are completely replaceable, your second wife denies you visitation, and that hooker had herpes.
But hey, what do I know, I go to NYU...and I'm pretty sure it should be no. 1 on this list. |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 6:58 PM Author: orange appetizing blood rage Maybe even Harvard is somewhat overrated. People tend to dwell on the past and thus still see Harvard is the best. New schools have arisen like Stanford, which dominates Harvard in engineering. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9779266) |
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Date: May 14th, 2008 3:59 PM Author: sooty brunch is this rant against the ugrad programs alone or the entire universities??
i thought penn also has a pretty good med school and a decent law school... |
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Date: May 14th, 2008 4:27 PM Author: galvanic pink principal's office . . . a top 5 med school and a top 10 law school, not to mention a bunch of liberal arts departments ranked in the top 10 or top 20. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9783900) |
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Date: May 14th, 2008 4:04 PM Author: sooty brunch and vanderbilt's med school is fairly good...the OP is starting to seem like a genuinely bitter faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9783788) |
Date: May 6th, 2008 2:03 PM Author: lascivious office what do you look like? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9742563) |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 3:07 PM Author: Contagious painfully honest police squad address horrible anti-penn state trolling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9742913) |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 3:35 PM Author: flatulent hell patrolman Subject: Super (Trader) Idiot Gee Wiz Mr. SuperTrader, with all your money you don´t seem to venture out of the suburbs too much. Harlem is actually a cool part of town, if you´re not a white, narrow-minded house wife. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9743153) |
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Date: May 21st, 2008 4:34 PM Author: Infuriating Amethyst Dingle Berry Subject: I live in the city you dope. No, Harlem really isn't that cool, though I do like Dinosuar BBQ up there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9813494) |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 3:45 PM Author: obsidian school corn cake lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9743232) |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 5:13 PM Author: Ocher point the OP is very clearly asian, a Columbia SEAS student, HYPSM reject, and a faggot with a tiny pink dick
hth |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 8:57 PM Author: Yellow chapel if anything, cornell is underrated
overrated schools include columbia, duke, wustl, chicago,emory,and notre dame |
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Date: May 6th, 2008 10:02 PM Author: Electric Pontificating House Cornell is appropriately rated in USNews but overrated by virtue of its athletic conference affiliation. Engineering and basic sciences are good, arts/science is ok, and the rest is mediocre state school fare.
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Date: May 6th, 2008 10:32 PM Author: Yellow chapel arts and sciences is uber elite (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9745326) |
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Date: May 7th, 2008 6:54 PM Author: nubile filthpig Subject: Harvard Design school, 80%? Why the hate toward KSG? BU caliber students? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9750421) |
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Date: May 8th, 2008 9:41 AM Author: red location quadroon Have you ever met KSG, Harvard Divinity, Design, Education, Extension students ?
They are total Idiots |
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Date: May 8th, 2008 7:23 AM Author: Cheese-eating shitlib juggernaut take out Cornell and Chicago (Cornell gets shit on, it can't be "overrated" and Chicago is a bit overrated, but certianly not "top 10") and include Columbia and DUKE
how can you leave out DUKE
and I would agree wholeheartedly, the hateful rant and all |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 4:16 AM Author: alcoholic shrine ladyboy i would drop schools like michigan, berkeley, chicago from this list and instead would include most of the "top" LACs. those are the truly overrated educational institutions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9775985) |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 5:24 AM Author: ivory rough-skinned native idiot aside from a/w/s they top 20 lacs are not terribly selective and offer a bundle of resources once you arrive there. what's overrated? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9776191) |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 7:05 AM Author: marvelous lay brethren Pomona and Harvey Mudd are more selective than a/w/s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9776385) |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 7:18 AM Author: ivory rough-skinned native idiot who cares, point still stands. the top lac's aren't even famous so they can't be 'overrated.' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9776421) |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 5:51 PM Author: marvelous lay brethren The fact that they are overrated is indicated by what people are willing to pay for them - 40k a year to get tough competition for grades that have relatively little inflation (at Williams, Swarthmore etc.), and not even Ivy prestige or financial aid, all for a little touchy-feely bonding bull**** and a few smaller introductory classes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9778945) |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 8:01 PM Author: alcoholic shrine ladyboy titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9779516) |
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Date: May 14th, 2008 4:26 AM Author: ivory rough-skinned native idiot at top schools you also get a really good network and good elite firm recruitment - even 'lesser' lac's will be considered before large state schools for immediate post-BA jobs. in dc also going to a top lac will take you farther than having gone to southwestern ohio state (if we're talking about just with a bachelors).
but with the influx of people going to college (read: the rise of state schools) this all might change in the next 10 years. still though, youre right that full sticker price is something that should make you think twice. |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 11:18 PM Author: Floppy Abusive Ticket Booth Subject: Remove your head from your ass Wow, you people are not only clearly full of yourselves and your “accomplishments” but exude pretentiousness with every word. Seriously, do you think that this subject is really worth the time you spend on it in relation to a host of other more worthwhile intellectual endeavors? Why must you continue to dwell on the crapshoot that is the college admissions process, thereby restricting the focus of your energies for discussions fit for those hallowed halls you romanticize and glorify? If you cannot recognize the beauty of God's creation outside of the brick and mortar buildings of "HYPSM" and consider such institutions as Columbia and Duke to be second rate and not worthy of one's attention, I pity you. I mourn for you. I pray that one day, you might be able to turn the keen wits that you have honed here cajoling one another on the merits and possibilities of collegiate hopefuls to more laudable endeavors. Bless you, for your minds are going to such waste. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9780313) |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 11:43 PM Author: House-broken supple institution mexican GO SUCK WHITE COCKS, BITCH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9780461) |
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Date: May 14th, 2008 6:52 AM Author: Cheese-eating shitlib juggernaut right because 1) all of our time should be spent on worthwhile intellectual endeavors. what a striver, Northwestern, resume padding, job hunting thing to say (with all due respect to the school). This is actually kinda fun, it's like discussing politics. It really has no bearing whatsoever on our personal lives nor, like, welfare of the world, but we're discussing the world around us (whether it be nation-states or universities), advancing our opinions and listening to those of others (and very often ignoring/ridiculing them). 2) anywhere in my post I said Columbia and Duke were "second rate". They're almost first rate schools, only that their rank (Duke gets a regional boost, kinda like Stanford, just to a much bigger degree) and their status among applicants (read: laymen, as their application numbers with respect to admission rate and freshmen avg SAT numbers indicate)
Dude, Michigan's a fine school, so's Berkeley. They're just not that all they're cracked up to be.
Now, Tufts or Emory, that's a second-rate school right there (not to mentioned overrated as hell). If you were to take offense to me calling Tufts and Emory shitholes, I'd really have nothing to say. |
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Date: May 14th, 2008 11:11 PM Author: Concupiscible Keepsake Machete Michigan isn't ranked very high and it's not clear who below them deserves to be higher. If anything, Michigan is underrated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9785658) |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 12:23 AM Author: Carnelian dead tanning salon When NYU has a more selective student body, and is ranked 10 spots lower, I think you are facing a losing battle there (not that i'm saying that NYU should be ranked higher than Michigan, i'm just saying that its less selective than schools ranked 10+ spots lower than it, which probably means that its certainly not underrated. In fact, it probably shows that it is indeed overrated....) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9786049) |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 10:21 AM Author: Concupiscible Keepsake Machete Why are you hedging? If being less selective in aggregate means they are a lesser school, say so, otherwise it's one data point and not proof of anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9787431) |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 11:44 AM Author: Carnelian dead tanning salon No, not necessarily. I'm not saying NYu should be ranked higher than Michigan (Michigan's reputation scores are probably MUCH higher) I'm saying that its ridiculous to think that Michigan is under-rated when its selectivity is so low compared to schools lower than it (and you can look at schools besides NYU too). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9787781) |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 7:51 PM Author: Concupiscible Keepsake Machete Circling around my point. As you say, rankings are a combination of factors. Why is the USNWR weighing presumed correct, or particuarly, why is selectivity disproportionately important? Michigan loses to NYU in this or that factor but does better in others. If something Michigan was better in became more favored in the relatively arbitrary US News formula, Michigan would be higher rated than it is now. Without having the data in front of me, reputation scores are probably great grounds for a "Michigan is underrated" possibility. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9789990) |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 8:14 PM Author: Carnelian dead tanning salon First, how can you claim that Michigan is under-rated because of reputation scores when pointing to the same "arbitrary formula" than I am with regards to selectivity? In your own words, "why would reputation scores be more important than the weight its already given"?
Second, to respond to your point, Michigan's high ranking is a by-product of its past and its high ranking graduate schools. A school's "reputation" can be inflated if other schools affiliated with it are ranked much higher. Another point is, that Michigan used to be a perennial top 10 undergraduate institution in the 1980's. The "high score" of its reputation could be a reflection of the school it "used to be"- not what it is right now. So in essence, the reputation scores are being inflated by the past, which are likely to decrease in the future, leaving me to think that Michigan is currently overrated. NYU is not a better school, FYI, but I do think, even as a Michigan alumn, that it is overrated by usnews. |
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Date: May 16th, 2008 1:32 PM Author: Concupiscible Keepsake Machete I rank schools on what the degree provides to the recipient. (iow, reputation score. The student body might forecast a drop in degree value, but that's in the future, not now.)
Which schools below Michigan bestow a more impressive degree than Michigan's? Michigan is better than the schools immediately below it: USC, UNC-Chapel Hill, Tufts, Lehigh.
Michigan is a better school than Notre Dame, better school than Emory, maybe better but at least equal to Vanderbilt. Maybe better than WUSTL even.
Seems that there is a decent chance that Michigan will reduce their quotas on in-state students as the State continues to cut funding, too. |
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Date: May 16th, 2008 3:51 PM Author: Carnelian dead tanning salon Meh, I personally don't think so. I think schools below it, like USC, UNC, and Tufts (though not Lehigh) provide an equally impressive degree. I definitely don't think Michigan is a "better school" in terms of the impressiveness of the degree than Notre Dame or Emory. And its certainly not in the same league as Vandy or WUSTL (at least for undergrad).
So basically, what you are arguing then, goes back to square one- "a school is underrated or overrated" because thats my opinion. And well, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion.
Also, you Michigan can't reduce in-stat quotas based on how much funding the state gives. For example, Michigan and Virginia law recieve 2% and 0% funding respectively from the state. They still have 20% in-state quotas. |
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Date: May 16th, 2008 4:16 PM Author: Concupiscible Keepsake Machete If they have a lower reputation score than the degree can be presumed to be less impressive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9793354) |
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Date: May 16th, 2008 4:34 PM Author: Carnelian dead tanning salon Yes, it can be "presumed."
I've already pointed out several reasons why the reputation score of Michigan is inflated with respect to its "real value" today.
Anyway, I don't want to disparage Michigan anymore. I have no idea how you managed to do it, but somehow you managed to place my desire to always be right, higher than my regard for my alma mater. I just started with a response saying, I don't think Michigan is under-rated, and now its turned into this whole thing with me insulting it, when I never wanted to do so in the first place..... |
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Date: May 21st, 2008 4:32 PM Author: Infuriating Amethyst Dingle Berry Subject: Your arguments make zero sense. Impressive degree? You are essentially saying that a Mich. is impressive, becuase it's impressive. Why is it better than all those schools? The students there certainly aren't.
The USNWR "rep score" is the biggest BS ever. Student quality is the only thing that should matter. In this regard, UMich is dismal relative to its rank. Schools ranked below it like NYU, USC and BC have better student bodies. When it comes to rep scores, UM is overrated because of its grad schools and a past reputation as an ivy for the working class. How else can a school with a 50%+ acceptance rate be so high in the rankings? |
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Date: May 16th, 2008 11:10 PM Author: Irradiated carmine national security agency you are probably the first alum i've met in my life, who has ever thought michigan is currently overrated... maybe you are not and you are just trolling...
All school reputations are influenced by graduate programs, by your definition, Harvard and Stanford are both living off the name of their graduate schools, yet no one questions them as two of the best undergraduate schools.
Also, its' laughable that if Michigan was a perennial top 10 undergrad school in the 80s, that it isn't also one today. What has changed all these years? Student quality has gone up, endowment went up more than any other school in the same time period. Michigan's PA score has never changed much, it's always around a 4.5 since the survey was created. I'll tell you why you think this way--> USNEWS. USNEWS in the 80s ranked Universities by PA scores alone, but starting in the 90s, they started inputting other factors, so the Michigan has always been the same, it's your perception that has changed, which also explain why schools like WUSTL is now ranked in the top 15, what a fuckin joke. |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 10:00 AM Author: Carnelian dead tanning salon Meh... I really wanted to not respond to this......
"All school reputations are influenced by graduate programs, by your definition, Harvard and Stanford are both living off the name of their graduate schools, yet no one questions them as two of the best undergraduate schools." The difference is that Harvard/Stanford graduate programs are also top 5, like their undergraduate programs- nobody is living off the name of the other. When you think of academic dominance of Michigan, you don't think about the undergraduate program, you think about the graduate program which is pretty much top 10 in every category. I don't think even you can deny that the graduate programs at Michigan are significantly better than the undergraduate program (and hence the feeder effect). You can't really say that Harvard/Stanford undergraduate is worse than its graduate programs.
"Also, its' laughable that if Michigan was a perennial top 10 undergrad school in the 80s, that it isn't also one today. What has changed all these years? Student quality has gone up, endowment went up more than any other school in the same time period. Michigan's PA score has never changed much, it's always around a 4.5 since the survey was created. I'll tell you why you think this way--> USNEWS. USNEWS in the 80s ranked Universities by PA scores alone, but starting in the 90s, they started inputting other factors, so the Michigan has always been the same, it's your perception that has changed, which also explain why schools like WUSTL is now ranked in the top 15, what a fuckin joke."
First off, WUSTL in the top 15 is a joke (i'll agree with you there). And yes, USnews definitely changes perceptions of schools. But even though Michigan may be the same school as it was in the 80's, perception's change, often times for no good reason (sometimes attributed for USnews) other than an increasing snobbery against state schools, and a newfound desire to go to school in a city(i'm not saying thats the case, i'm just throwing out as an example). After all, people and society change. But even if Michigan is still the same school does not mean that it is (or should) be as highly regarded/ranked as it used to be. |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 10:54 AM Author: Irradiated carmine national security agency nyu doens't have a more selective student body. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9787544) |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 11:38 AM Author: Carnelian dead tanning salon In terms of SAT scores and admissions %. I do believe, however, that Michigan has a slightly higher average entering GPA, but based on the fact that east coast high schools are probably more rigorous than midwest high schools, I think the only good indicator is the SAT. In that case, at least for the last couple of years, NYU has done better than Michigan.
Regardless, I went to both. I'm probably the least biased out of anyone. Though, I will say, without a doubt that I had a lot more fun at Michigan than NYU- a lot more going on and a much better atmosphere. In terms of average quality of student, NYU had Michigan beat (at least anecdotally). Though, the top 2-3% of Michigan students were better than the top 2-3% of NYU students (probably becuase Michigan is able to pull in-state top students away from top ivies, whereas NYU is not). |
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Date: May 16th, 2008 12:48 AM Author: Irradiated carmine national security agency Subject: i don't actually believe that you are a Michigan Alum. Michigan does not superscore the SAT score, which should add at least 30 points to the average. (1320+30=1350)
East Coast high schools more rigorous? I laughed, did you ever check out what most public schools in new york city are actually like?
I'm curious, what did you study at Michigan?
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Date: May 16th, 2008 10:59 AM Author: Carnelian dead tanning salon I was a science major. Lived on Central Campus (my moniker is named after my favorite fast food place right on state street, but I heard it recently closed down and became some sort of hot dog/burger joint), but used the bus to get to north campus. Also, is big ten burrito still around (it was like two stores down from Mr. Tubbys)? It's 10x better than chipotle.
Also, most kids don't get into Michigan or NYU from "average" public schools. Though, i'd wager that NYC public schools are better than Detroit public schools, anyway. There is a much higher conglomeration of stronger/more competitive schools on the east coast than in the midwest, I don't think thats debatable. The best you've got is Cranbrook.
With regards to your "super-scoring"- it's highly suspect. First, how do you know other schools don't do the same, and how do you know thats the same data that they reported to usnews (and finally, how do you know that Michigan doesn't super score)? Just because a school does not superscore for the purposes of admission, does not mean that they don't do it later on for purposes of reporting. The fact is, all of that is accounted for when sending in your info to usnews.
Anyway, i'm not going to get into this spat. I've had enough of these conversations when I was actually at Mich. In my observation, the average NYU student is definitely smarter than the average Michigan student. The top Michigan students are better than the top NYU students. |
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Date: May 16th, 2008 3:41 PM Author: Irradiated carmine national security agency what science would require you to be on north campus? I'm sorry, but I was an engineering major at Michigan, and I never had a single science class on north campus. BTB is still around...
Cranbrook is definitely not the best high schools in Michigan, I'm from new york city and went to one of the best private schools in nyc, on average the people going to Michigan are smarter than those going to NYU.
71% of Michigan students were among the top 5% in high school, also in the Harvard Business School internal system, Michigan Undergraduates rank as the #11 feeder to HBS. I don't belive NYU can say the same. I guess we'll just agree to disagree on this. |
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Date: May 16th, 2008 3:55 PM Author: Carnelian dead tanning salon Hrm, a bunch of my CS classes were up there back in the day, I believe.
I was also under the impression that Cranbook was, by far and away, the best high school in Michigan. Though, a lot of the people I knew were from Cranbrook, and thats what they claimed, so they may be biased.
Anyway, I'd just like to point out Michigan is going to be a top feeder school for any good program in the country. Its a solid top 30 school with an *incredibly large* student population (many of whom are incredibly interested in business because of Ross Undergrad program). In terms of pure numbers, of course its going to be one of the top feeders for an any elite program..... they probably place more people than a smaller top school like Amherst or Dartmouth.
But yes, agree to disagree....... |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 12:31 AM Author: stimulating rose area i don't quite understand how tufts is a shithole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9786096) |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 9:53 AM Author: Odious library It just is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9787337) |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 3:18 PM Author: alcoholic shrine ladyboy titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9788899) |
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Date: May 15th, 2008 6:17 PM Author: stimulating rose area you seem wanting in reasoning capacity. no offense. |
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Date: May 21st, 2008 11:27 PM Author: brass theater stage mad-dog skullcap it really is, you stupid faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9814963) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2008 1:06 AM Author: stimulating rose area somehow that isn't convincing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9815274) |
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Date: May 21st, 2008 11:38 PM Author: Arousing Property Sandwich possibly partially totally correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9814985) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 12:37 AM Author: Floppy Abusive Ticket Booth Actually, I do take offense to labeling Emory and Tufts "shitholes", because for the many brillant people who strive to attend those schools, it is an elitist insult to say they second-rate. I will leave it at that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9819014) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 12:39 AM Author: Floppy Abusive Ticket Booth Actually, I do take offense to labeling Emory and Tufts "shitholes", because for the many brilliant people who strive to attend those schools, it is an elitist insult to say they second-rate. I will leave it at that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9819018) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:51 AM Author: stimulating rose area notice that they don't list a single reason to support their claims. a little suspicious, i'd say. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809567&forum_id=1#9819401) |