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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
vigorous potus
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
mind-boggling alpha
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
sticky theater stage
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
motley degenerate
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
sticky theater stage
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
motley degenerate
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
sticky theater stage
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Jade Toaster
  05/29/25
cq
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  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Histrionic native digit ratio
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Effete den coldplay fan
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
pearly mother
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
Green insanely creepy boltzmann locale
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It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar s...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: vigorous potus

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: mind-boggling alpha

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: mind-boggling alpha

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: mind-boggling alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49172980)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49421817)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49421862)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49421881)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49422254)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: sticky theater stage

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: motley degenerate

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: sticky theater stage

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: motley degenerate

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: sticky theater stage

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Histrionic native digit ratio

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Trip university toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Dashing Massive Lodge Antidepressant Drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Jade Toaster

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: bespoke fortuitous meteor

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Salmon galvanic liquid oxygen pervert

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Histrionic native digit ratio

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Effete den coldplay fan

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: pearly mother

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Green insanely creepy boltzmann locale

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49421865)