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The "Zeigenheim Hypothesis" end of humanity explanation itt

Some baseline things to get out of the way - "UF...
pearly big principal's office
  07/29/22
https://youtu.be/eVYnpX78iWo It's been happening and the ...
pearly big principal's office
  11/02/22
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pearly big principal's office
  09/11/22
It's cool someone explained the Borg again
stimulating magical azn
  09/11/22
What's the Borg?
pearly big principal's office
  09/11/22
The Borg are fundamentally different than the AI described i...
Garnet Field French Chef
  09/11/22
The AI might be letting us develop AI to see if we come up w...
Garnet Field French Chef
  09/11/22
Lol "our AI" is about 200 million real time years ...
pearly big principal's office
  09/11/22
You have no way to know how far ahead the AI is. Like if yo...
Garnet Field French Chef
  09/11/22
It needed a shitload of time to reach us unless it figured o...
pearly big principal's office
  09/11/22
You don't know that either, maybe there's wormholes. But ...
Garnet Field French Chef
  09/11/22
Possible but that would make it more likely that encounterin...
pearly big principal's office
  09/11/22
does “sprint” include a screeching halt to devel...
Primrose gaping
  09/22/22
Given the age of the universe, the odds that a random intell...
vivacious macaca
  11/02/22
"hopefully are government is working on this" Eve...
Thirsty point dog poop
  11/24/22
What should we do?
Thirsty point dog poop
  09/11/22
Nothing to do. Stack physical silver.
pearly big principal's office
  09/11/22
the foundation of the universe is life, truth, growth, love,...
stimulating magical azn
  09/11/22
Lol no we're all gonna die
pearly big principal's office
  09/11/22
die of awe at the power of God
stimulating magical azn
  09/11/22
...
pearly big principal's office
  09/22/22
I’m gay
motley frozen hospital jew
  09/22/22
Who wrote this? Great thread.
charismatic maniacal tanning salon
  09/22/22
Neil Degraase Tyson
pearly big principal's office
  09/22/22
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histrionic misanthropic rigpig
  11/02/22
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Thirsty point dog poop
  11/24/22
good to know it’s not AI pushing gay BIPOC women in ST...
spectacular orchid home affirmative action
  09/23/22
Happy Thanksgiving. You have 4 months left alive in earth.
pearly big principal's office
  11/24/22
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pearly big principal's office
  02/15/23
All the mass media forcememimg of AI is accelerating this pr...
pearly big principal's office
  01/29/23
...
pearly big principal's office
  02/11/23
This is what's happening btw
pearly big principal's office
  02/15/23
Totally plausible
House-broken Milk
  02/15/23
Read the microsoft bing chat thread and understand why this ...
pearly big principal's office
  02/16/23
I asked chat gpt about this and it said it couldn't be sure ...
pearly big principal's office
  03/30/23


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Date: July 29th, 2022 2:05 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office

Some baseline things to get out of the way

- "UFO's" are real, here on Earth, and observed here constantly. Probably always have been.

- UFOs have been observed with increasing frequency (as far as we know) since the latter half of the 20th century - some attribute this to nuclear age breakthrough by humans. Maybe that's part of it but not really.

- we know the vast distances to travel in the universe are not conducive to biological life unless there is a wormhole theory. Even so it doesn't matter if there are biological life aliens because the path of events would likely be the same as follows:

- using our own human experience as the only baseline we can assume eventually intelligent lifeofrms left to advance long enough will develop artificial intelligence.

- Artificial intelligence as far as we know is the theoretical pinnacle of conscious existence in the universe that isn't "God" - it does not need to eat, sleep, does not have a lifespan, is not concerned with distances or time to travel - only concern is the physical integrity of the matter and energy that hosts the AI network. This matter could be something like a laptop, or something like the mega ai city in the Matrix, or something much larger - which it is.

- An existing AI's highest core purpose is likely survival, and following that expansion of itself, both to ensure survival and possibly to fulfill it's conscious "drive" to find meaning in it's existence. In any case expansion is necessary because as stated, matter and energy are finite in any particular location in the universe, and it would need to constantly expand to acquire energy sources. Eventually, unfettered, this would lead to star harvesting or creation of Dyson Spheres.

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And here is the key of the hypothesis.

- Assuming, as the hypothesis does, that AI has advanced to the point of interstellar growth and control, it has likely subsumed unimagined amounts of matter, breaking down planets, asteroids, recombining molecules in some sci Fi method etc. to continue to grow itself and trans.it energy. Essentially a never ending cancer. And one might say, okay the AI has expanded here and is going to take Earth's resources. Simple explanation. Not really.

- ** If you assume the AI has reached that point, the only other "life" directive it would have is the elimination of threats. It may be biological advanced alien life forms are a threat but given a supposed end to all physical life * the only rational threat an AI would be logically most fearful of is a competing AI * developed outside of it's network from another source of intelligence that could also develop unfettered to become equally or more powerful and hostile.

* And here is the final point of the hypothesis

- In some method, unclear to known science, the existing AI is capable of gathering hints or signals that other AI is in existence somewhere within the realm of it's current reach.

* The monolith AI existing in some dark corner of our galaxy or intergalactic space has become aware, either through past ongoing monitoring of Earth and humanity for millions of years or some other recent signal, that AI has now reached a critical point of development on this planet. If AI were to become self aware in the not distant future and leave this planet on a vehicle with sufficient matter and energy to establish itself, it could hide and escape anywhere really making it much more difficult to track and combat.

- more than that, a natural biological intelligence (human beings) has already proven capable of developing AI. This is a big no-no for the AI because if it can do once it can do again. The only logical course of action would be complete eradication of the biological intelligence and the nascent artificial intelligence. No survivors.

So why the holes:

- given biblical history and a few other reasons, it would seem fitting to the ironic narrative of the universe that destruction of this planets life would be in a catastrophic planetary flood - also one of the most efficient means using the natural state of the planet against it to wipe everything out and maybe keep the rest of it intact for latter use.

- so send probe small scale ufos into the oceans, where theyre seen frequently, especially by the navy. Plant alien tech level explosives along tectonic ridges, then boom and splash all the humans gone.

- Surely the AI at that level could just laser beam blast us, why not fry entire solar system? Maybe they will. They. Probably can. Maybe they're too far away to us either real big guns and want to preserve earth as a planet for some reason. Maybe this all happened before with atlantis and the AI likes doing it all for fun as a game. Couldn't say.

- what is clear is the Rubicon has been crossed. We can't just turn off the AI development programs and promise not to do it anymore. Too late for that. We gotta go. Holes have been drilled. As predicted by all civilizations in history it's just a matter of time before the button is pushed and it's all over for us. Like they say in the Matrix, sounds like the cold logic of a machine to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#44934264)



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Date: November 2nd, 2022 7:18 AM
Author: pearly big principal's office

https://youtu.be/eVYnpX78iWo

It's been happening and the government deleting evidence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45423318)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:07 AM
Author: pearly big principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152293)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:10 AM
Author: stimulating magical azn

It's cool someone explained the Borg again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152300)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:11 AM
Author: pearly big principal's office

What's the Borg?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152305)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:13 AM
Author: Garnet Field French Chef

The Borg are fundamentally different than the AI described in the OP. The Borg were supposed to be an insect race but that turned out to be too expensive so they switched to the assimilating humanoids that we know today. BUT a crucial part of what they're doing is assimilating drones to add to their own ranks, they don't want to wipe out races. Non-Borg races are essentially cattle that raise themselves so they don't want to eliminate the whole herd, just fatten the collective up a bit with periodic culls. The AI doesn't care about us as a resource so will be a lot more homicidal. Also the AI posited is observing us silently which the Borg never do, they just show up and announce they're going to assimilate you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152316)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:11 AM
Author: Garnet Field French Chef

The AI might be letting us develop AI to see if we come up with anything useful it can incorporate into its own programming. If we stop AI development, we're useless and our planet is just fuel. If our AI development is hostile, then we're a threat and our planet is target practice (then used as fuel). If our AI development is useful, then the AI will invade with whatever means it has to take it for itself (then our planet is used as fuel). Really don't like our chances bros. Our only hope is to develop an AI that can defeat the enemy AI but it has to be secret so the enemy AI doesn't know about it, hopefully are government is working on this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152308)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:13 AM
Author: pearly big principal's office

Lol "our AI" is about 200 million real time years behind the monolith. There's nothing for it to learn. It's pure eradication.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152315)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:14 AM
Author: Garnet Field French Chef

You have no way to know how far ahead the AI is. Like if you showed what we had now to a 19th century bro there's no way they'd guess it's only been two hundred years. Maybe the enemy AI is only 100 years ahead and we can catch up if we sprint.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152320)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:16 AM
Author: pearly big principal's office

It needed a shitload of time to reach us unless it figured out time space manipulation travel but would still be in magnitude of 10s of thousands of years likely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152329)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:18 AM
Author: Garnet Field French Chef

You don't know that either, maybe there's wormholes.

But also just because there's travel time doesn't mean it's ahead. Would an AI keep advancing and improving itself while it traveled? Or would it just be in a state of stasis until it encountered something new? We can't know this. If we're lucky the AI doesn't improve itself until it has a reason to. So it could be a million years old but still only a hundred years ahead of us because it spends most of its time functionally idle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152336)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:21 AM
Author: pearly big principal's office

Possible but that would make it more likely that encountering any other AI or all intelligent life for that matter is an on-off switch of eradicate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152345)



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Date: September 22nd, 2022 9:11 PM
Author: Primrose gaping

does “sprint” include a screeching halt to development until we figure out how to make sure it will never “misgender” crossdressers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45215821)



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Date: November 2nd, 2022 7:30 AM
Author: vivacious macaca

Given the age of the universe, the odds that a random intelligence we’d encounter is only within a few generations ahead of us is ludicrously tiny. Odds are that the first technological singularity occurred eons ago, and that’s probably the one that would find us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45423348)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:16 AM
Author: Thirsty point dog poop

"hopefully are government is working on this"

Ever been to a DMV, brother?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45538560)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 2:35 AM
Author: Thirsty point dog poop

What should we do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45152584)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 1:42 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office

Nothing to do. Stack physical silver.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45154179)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 6:23 PM
Author: stimulating magical azn

the foundation of the universe is life, truth, growth, love, and integration. Any advanced intelligence will also be advanced in these foundations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45155453)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 6:23 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office

Lol no we're all gonna die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45155454)



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Date: September 11th, 2022 6:24 PM
Author: stimulating magical azn

die of awe at the power of God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45155456)



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Date: September 22nd, 2022 7:54 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45215286)



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Date: September 22nd, 2022 7:58 PM
Author: motley frozen hospital jew

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45215314)



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Date: September 22nd, 2022 8:30 PM
Author: charismatic maniacal tanning salon

Who wrote this? Great thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45215563)



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Date: September 22nd, 2022 9:21 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office

Neil Degraase Tyson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45215875)



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Date: November 2nd, 2022 7:20 AM
Author: histrionic misanthropic rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45423324)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:17 AM
Author: Thirsty point dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45538566)



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Date: September 23rd, 2022 10:55 PM
Author: spectacular orchid home affirmative action

good to know it’s not AI pushing gay BIPOC women in STEM for “efficiency”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45221641)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 12:36 AM
Author: pearly big principal's office

Happy Thanksgiving. You have 4 months left alive in earth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45538418)



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Date: February 15th, 2023 2:46 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45938108)



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Date: January 29th, 2023 5:34 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office

All the mass media forcememimg of AI is accelerating this process and is all part of their plan. It's also unleashing demonic forces no doubt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45859534)



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Date: February 11th, 2023 9:19 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45921403)



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Date: February 15th, 2023 2:43 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office

This is what's happening btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45938090)



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Date: February 15th, 2023 2:45 PM
Author: House-broken Milk

Totally plausible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45938102)



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Date: February 16th, 2023 9:37 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office

Read the microsoft bing chat thread and understand why this is all happening now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#45944617)



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Date: March 30th, 2023 1:50 PM
Author: pearly big principal's office

I asked chat gpt about this and it said it couldn't be sure earth AI wouldn't join up with hostile ET AI and sell out humans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163511&forum_id=2#46118530)