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Last 747 rolls off the assembly line
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:06 PM Author: naked trailer park dingle berry https://komonews.com/news/local/boeing-rollout-final-747-jumbo-jet-tonight-from-lufthansa-atlas-everett-factory-seattle-washington-pan-am-airlines-puget-sound-airplane# (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594532) |
Date: December 6th, 2022 3:10 PM Author: clear personal credit line No doubt this is a sentimental moment that pulls on the heartstrings of any aviation enthusiast but at the same time it's hard to not feel at least a spot of hope given the rumors swirling around about their replacement 797X triple-decker (Project: "Fortress in the Sky") which, if you believe the reports, will have a number of "extraordinary capabilities."
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:12 PM Author: Slap-happy massive lodge One of those "extraordinary capabilities" will be 1,000+ people perishing in a single accident. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594571) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:33 PM Author: insanely creepy travel guidebook liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594741) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: Cocky hunting ground not if we don’t sell them to turd world countries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594900) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 6:07 PM Author: clear personal credit line It's being described internally as "effectively uncrashable." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595518) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 6:39 PM Author: Slap-happy massive lodge So was the Titanic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595686) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 6:48 PM Author: clear personal credit line I get that but at some point you have to imagine that you've moved far enough along the safety curve to actually "get there." I've seen internal documentation suggesting that they're estimating less than 1 crash for the airframe throughout the line for the entire service lifetime. It's not literally 0 (think like .4, .6) but call it 50/50 odds of zero crashes whatsoever over 1,000 aircraft over 30 years of service. It's a phenomenal achievement if they can pull it off particularly given the other challenges that they're overcoming to put together an airframe like this--the idea of putting 1,000 people in the air at a time is wild. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595716) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 6:59 PM Author: dark library voyeur how long will boarding take. Zone B3 proles will stampede each other crowding around the gate and die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595761) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 7:04 PM Author: clear personal credit line One of the cool things about the plane--and you can see this if you look closely at the vision drawing I linked--is that there will be multiple boarding points, sort of like a more elaborate version of boarding on a 757. How complex it will be will depend on the facilities of the airport and how much capital they're willing to invest. At the most simple level Boeing is envisioning a three path single-deck boarding which most existing facilities should be able to accommodate. For newer airports or those willing to reinvest they have diagrams showing as many as 12 boarding paths across three decks that can be wheeled into the airframe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595785) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 7:24 PM Author: naked trailer park dingle berry Is there any market for giant aircraft like this?
How did the 757 load differently? I worked the ramp out of high school for a couple of years. We still had 757s, 727s and even a few l1011s. Late 90s. My first cocktail was first class on an l1011. There were 8 people on the plane. |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 9:12 PM Author: clear personal credit line Yeah I spent a few years working the ground crew at an airport myself out east. Learned a lot there; real salt of the Earth group and got a global perspective I otherwise wouldn't have been privy to in the small town I grew up in. One of the ground crew, a guy named O'Rourke, took me under his wing ha and taught me a lot both about the trade and people. We became something of an A-Team, brought in for some of the most hazardous applications. I digress though.
Anyway, when I refer to the 757 I'm just talking about the split boarding process as you enter with the different cabins to your left and right. But now extrapolate that to six, eight, ten different points of entry across multiple levels depending on how robust the airport infrastructure is--a real retrofuturism people mover concept that we're about to see in actuality. |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 11:29 PM Author: naked trailer park dingle berry Yeah I loved that job. I worked with a lot of Vietnam vets. I was with delta and they bought western air but canceled their retirement so lots of old doods sticking around. It was really an eye opener. Fast paced for a couple of hours then play chess and smoke cigarettes for an hour. Repeat. I regret not traveling more but I was poor as fuck and still in college.
Who's buying these giant aircraft? My neighbor is a Boeing engineer. I'm going to ask him about this titanic plane. He's thinking about jumping ship for spaceX. |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:40 AM Author: clear personal credit line I think bottom line is Boeing is anticipating a market shift and that there are going to be more and more people traveling in the coming years and they want to be able to offer their customers experiences that are unrivaled by any other aerial platform -- this is going to do it. The possibilities are immense for this.
I think about my time on the ground crew a lot. We were a real ragtag bunch, working hard during the day, carousing at night, swapping stories and telling tales, and in those fleeting months I felt more alive in the dangerous bustle of the airport than at any other time in my life. I find myself musing in an idle moment between calls what it would be like to go back there to relive that slice in time, young and dumb, hauling tackle blocks as planes skitter onto the runway, no fear only feeling, my biggest cares whether we would hit O'Reily's that evening and if the blonde I met on Tuesday would answer my call. |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 7:40 PM Author: exciting elite indian lodge patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45601061) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 7:57 PM Author: naked trailer park dingle berry I worked with a guy that had a jeep without a top. It rained and snowed. Fun shit driving on a busy tarmac. It changed how I drove. I was used to nudging or bumping things in my way (sans aircraft obviously). Sometimes I still get the inclination in my car. Lol I drove a set of airstairs on the freeway once.
A buddy I went to high-school with stuck it out and eventually became a station manager. No college degree, just company loyalty. |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 11:43 PM Author: clear personal credit line Oh man brings back a lot of memories. On off-season weekdays in the evenings when we knew traffic was going to be slower we would do "grill outs" in one of the service hangars that the reps let us use for parts and supplies. It would be cold as shit and we'd have tons of meat (and maybe some drinks, but I'm not saying) that we got as excess from the vendors who were going to toss it anyway. We'd fire up a long grill we picked up from a commercial supplier at a discount, everyone chipped in for that thing and it was incredible. And I remember we'd all of us be huddled together around a couple heaters, the grill going with Mike on it performing his art, the guiding lights of the airport bedotting the surrounding hills throwing garish hues red and green back on our faces, and we'd watch the planes making their slow, laden descents to the runway like overstuffed birds lazy and happy from a fish meal honing back to home and in those twilight moments I thought I would live forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45601995) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:08 PM Author: naked trailer park dingle berry I worked with lots of retirees. Just saying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45606989) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:17 PM Author: clear personal credit line https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFkcAH-m9W0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45607037) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 7:28 PM Author: impertinent principal's office lol amerikkkan infrastructure cant even support 2-door boarding gates and it would take 50 years and a $50 trillion to make one airport from 1 to 2 boarding gates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595886) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 9:13 PM Author: clear personal credit line I guess American infrastructure is about to surprise you because they're saying this is going to launch before 2030. Also keep in mind immediately of the gate it's still a single path but then it starts splitting vertically and horizontally so people are moving all across the apparatus like ants in a complex anthill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45596388) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 7:03 PM Author: Excitant burgundy deer antler degenerate What does this mean? Were the other ones designed to have a certain acceptable tolerance for crashes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595776) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 7:06 PM Author: clear personal credit line This is a sensitive and complex topic. Generally speaking, every western commercial aircraft ever designed is intended to be safe for operation throughout its lifespan assuming proper maintenance subject to the engineering limitations of the day. Having said that, one can still calculate and simulate anticipated rates of failure for various systems. Note that a failure does not necessarily translate into a loss of life although it certainly risks it. I think the safe way to describe this in an elevator conversation is, simply put, the 797 will be the safest airframe ever flown and that many of the things that historically would have caused *other* airframes to crash will not be able to bring down a properly maintained 797. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595796) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 7:31 PM Author: Excitant burgundy deer antler degenerate Sounds scholarly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45601027) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 6:11 PM Author: Charismatic lilac cuckold windowlicker Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595544) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:20 PM Author: naked trailer park dingle berry Holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594628) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:21 PM Author: Soul-stirring twinkling stock car corner that looks way too frontheavy lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594636) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:22 PM Author: sable university in reality the 797 is a boring midsized jet that boeing hasnt been able to move past the concept stage in almost a decade (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594639) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:31 PM Author: clear personal credit line This is the X. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594724) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:53 PM Author: sable university ? 797x is a 220 seat plane that would replace the 757 which has been sitting in limbo for several years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594842) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:58 PM Author: clear personal credit line Capital X. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594880) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 6:18 PM Author: Black Genital Piercing who the fuck names two very different models with the only difference being capitalization? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595589) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 6:22 PM Author: clear personal credit line It's an engineers being engineers issue here. The two lines are derived from the same original "metal line" (i.e., the base aircraft design, akin to a shared road car platform) but then they diverged to serve extremely different markets with one being directed toward midmarket interior travel and the other becoming gargantuan to surpass the A380 and 747X. They may rename it by the time it goes to market to avoid this sort of confusion but internally within Boeing they're using the nomenclature right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595606) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 9:17 PM Author: impertinent principal's office sounds like Boeing need more email girls to deal with the nomenclature issue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45596401) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:24 PM Author: Angry Therapy oh, wow, a flying Titanic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594665) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 3:59 PM Author: clear personal credit line They are saying in internal materials that it is going to be "effectively uncrashable" due to modern avionics innovations but I don't think that's a fair comparison given the advancement in technology that's occurred in the past century. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594891) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 6:14 PM Author: harsh marketing idea stead lol no GC would let them say that shit in public. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595556) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 6:17 PM Author: clear personal credit line Yeah I imagine they're going to tone it down for the external materials I'm just talking about some of the engineering reference documents and internal business analyses that have leaked. They're saying because of the suite of safety systems present in the aircraft, the airtight bulkheads, the incorporation of a soft AI system, and what appears to be a "double hull" and foam that it's basically impossible to crash the thing. I'm sure this will get softened into "SAFETY INNOVATION" when they market it to Korean Air in 2030 or whatever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595578) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: stimulating brunch half-breed also, it's modeled after Hunter Biden's penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45594992) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 7:27 PM Author: Mauve federal reading party LJL at Boeing competently designing a brand new, widebody aircraft from scratch again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45595883) |
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Date: December 6th, 2022 9:14 PM Author: clear personal credit line They've done it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45596391) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 11:06 AM Author: Sienna hairy legs I wish. It would be cool to see a mechanical marvel like that.
But the Airbus A380 is already struggling because (1) it’s weight and dimensions are already too much for all but a handful of commercial airports, and (2) point to point air travel has won vs the travel hub model the A380 was made for.
Also, there’s no way any western commercial airliner is going to be built with anhedral wings. |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:07 PM Author: clear personal credit line It's going to be here before 2030. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248388&forum_id=2#45606979) |