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POLL: Did Pete Hegseht commit a war crime?

Assuming the following is true, does this constitute a war c...
Razzmatazz Set
  11/28/25
Yes. "Kill everybody" is not a military order. It'...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/28/25
They followed illegal orders!! They were ILLEGAL! OMG!!!
Galvanic New Version
  11/29/25
That's a non-denial
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/29/25
Maybe at some "department of defense" it is not. ...
disturbing irate mother gas station
  11/29/25
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Submissive property
  11/29/25
...
Avocado zombie-like business firm nowag
  11/30/25
race of 2 survivors?
ocher bearded ratface
  11/28/25
This was after they failed to survive.
Razzmatazz Set
  11/28/25
Initial survivors yes. Race?
ocher bearded ratface
  11/28/25
As an Officer, he is subject to getting some of that UCMJ-lo...
histrionic persian
  11/28/25
Grok, Claude, and Chat all agree this is unambiguously a war...
Razzmatazz Set
  11/28/25
...
tan hell therapy
  11/28/25
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comical nighttime gunner crackhouse
  11/29/25
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sick stirring sandwich theater
  11/29/25
He admitted his intent was to kill, and the killings were un...
Submissive property
  11/29/25
oh? "unlawful by any measure"? care to elaborate?
cream quadroon
  12/01/25
Idk if it's a "war crime," but probably violates s...
spruce thriller trust fund temple
  11/28/25
Assistant TO the Secretary of War
Razzmatazz Set
  11/28/25
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Appetizing corner friendly grandma
  11/29/25
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Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  11/29/25
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bonkers cuckold kitty
  11/29/25
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Adventurous fortuitous meteor mad cow disease
  11/30/25
It's really just plain old fashioned murder like you learned...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/28/25
what did ur 1L professor say about the extrajudicial killing...
swashbuckling cheese-eating menage
  11/28/25
Due process doesn't always require a trial. Sometimes an AUM...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/28/25
They’re not even sending their brightest anymore, bud....
spruce thriller trust fund temple
  11/29/25
I wasn’t in the same class, but I assume he would have...
spruce thriller trust fund temple
  11/29/25
Yep.
misunderstood principal's office electric furnace
  11/29/25
Were the two survivors plausibly able to use the floating de...
Fuchsia Startled Queen Of The Night Chapel
  11/28/25
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cowardly mind-boggling base
  11/29/25
Questions that are rarely asked.
Razzmatazz Set
  11/29/25
There was a risk they might recover some drugs and smuggle t...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/29/25
I do not believe, based on the facts in the Post story, that...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/29/25
(Hegseth's new lawyer)
Razzmatazz Set
  11/29/25
lol this doesn't exonerate Hegseth at all, it just implicate...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/29/25
good link. i'd like to see a reply. waterboarding isn't to...
cream quadroon
  12/01/25
Lol no
onyx insane digit ratio skinny woman
  11/29/25
If it was struck by an air strike, then it’s not a war...
Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook
  11/29/25
Chat says you're applying a real rule incorrectly: &ldqu...
Razzmatazz Set
  11/29/25
this is incorrect if they can’t reasonably be taken...
Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  11/29/25
That response misunderstands the law. It mixes two differen...
Razzmatazz Set
  11/29/25
Your AI chatbot is parroting journalists and ignoring longst...
Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook
  11/29/25
The chatbot put it in all caps and you’re still not cl...
Razzmatazz Set
  11/30/25
This was my favorite take, international law in a nutshell: ...
Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook
  11/30/25
Rest of the link seems to assert the lawyer basically Made I...
Cobalt dashing native
  11/30/25
The rest of the article makes clear the bruderlein guy is an...
Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook
  11/30/25
guess what? the shipwrecked rule only applies to COMBATANTS,...
Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  11/30/25
...
Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  11/30/25
...
French deer antler bawdyhouse
  12/01/25
I'm the one who posted that that was the best argument again...
Razzmatazz Set
  12/01/25
you know what the actual best part is? the second strike ...
Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  12/01/25
More retarded lib pearl clutching
massive striped hyena
  11/29/25
Absolutely no one is defending Hegseth. No one.
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/29/25
they're not whores de combat, they're not even de combat
glassy stage dragon
  11/29/25
Yeah it's plain vanilla murder, we've known that for over 24...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/29/25
I'm hors de troll, you can't flame me
glassy stage dragon
  11/29/25
Everyone believes you're real
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/29/25
...
sick stirring sandwich theater
  11/29/25
Nope
Hairraiser Arrogant Cuckoldry Location
  11/29/25
Cannot be compelled to care about drug smugglers but based u...
aquamarine wagecucks death wish
  11/29/25
For those saying this is a war crime, if Obama had drone str...
laughsome mahogany meetinghouse
  11/29/25
We used to regularly "double tap" in Iraq, Serbia,...
Vermilion Range
  11/29/25
That’s not what “double tapping” was/is, a...
Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook
  11/29/25
...
Adventurous fortuitous meteor mad cow disease
  11/30/25
Outted as someone who never served.
misunderstood principal's office electric furnace
  11/30/25
I’ve poasted pictures of my CIB and Ranger Tab multipl...
Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook
  12/01/25
Wrong on all of that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_...
Vermilion Range
  11/30/25
lol at this citing a law review article A Florida Law Rev...
ebony soul-stirring heaven
  12/01/25
“Double tapping is actually a reference only to second...
Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook
  12/01/25
https://web.archive.org/web/20150508215824/http://www.thebur...
Vermilion Range
  12/01/25
Here is what a double tap is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook
  12/01/25
he is retarded, because he’s a russian Jew who support...
Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  12/01/25
"But we did it a million times before!"
Hot fiercely-loyal center affirmative action
  11/30/25
...
Submissive property
  11/30/25
"But they had drugs in the boat!"
misunderstood principal's office electric furnace
  11/30/25
Right. Which is exactly why this is fake outrage.
Vermilion Range
  11/30/25
this is what russia does why would the U.S. want to destr...
Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  11/30/25
It turns out that everyone does this. The US doesn't pay fo...
Vermilion Range
  11/30/25
no, russians are especially depraved they did it in Syri...
Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  12/01/25
So the CIA is a Russian org? https://web.archive.org/web/20...
Vermilion Range
  12/01/25
hitting civilian rescue services is a war crime yeah, so if ...
sick stirring sandwich theater
  11/30/25
The "double tap" involves a delayed second attack ...
Vermilion Range
  11/30/25
...
disturbing irate mother gas station
  11/30/25
i can't find any verification for that outside your assertio...
sick stirring sandwich theater
  11/30/25
Really? Am I the only one who has heard about double tap st...
Vermilion Range
  12/01/25
you mean the Islamic terrorist we tossed off a boat into the...
Fragrant school cafeteria boltzmann
  12/03/25
Probably but who cares? War crimes are for the other people....
Mustard Pisswyrm Hospital
  11/29/25
"If the U.S. military operation is not an armed conflic...
Submissive property
  11/30/25
not even Israel would do this shit
Rusted Territorial Public Bath
  11/30/25
I'm coming around to the view that all 80 killings were murd...
misunderstood principal's office electric furnace
  11/30/25
lol
Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  11/30/25
...
Hot fiercely-loyal center affirmative action
  11/30/25
That's what I interpret the Washington Post to be saying.
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/30/25
Wow violated international law?? That's the highest law the...
Galvanic New Version
  11/30/25
(guy who flunked out of intergalactic law 401)
French deer antler bawdyhouse
  12/01/25
Whatever it was AZNgirls will always find Handsome Hegseth i...
Haunting electric abode twinkling uncleanness
  11/30/25
He would crush it on only fans
Razzmatazz Set
  11/30/25
“Kill them all” is a confession to murder under ...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/30/25
So the new shitcon consensus is that Hegseth committed crime...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/30/25
The consensus is that you and all other shitlibs should be ...
White awkward station reading party
  11/30/25
Hows this going libs
Beady-eyed burgundy indirect expression macaca
  11/30/25
Update: Hegseth said he never gave the kill order. LOL@ RSF ...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/30/25
yes obviously. he'll be pardoned by Trump though. Dems wil...
Vibrant Lilac Foreskin Newt
  11/30/25
Send him to The Hague then
Aromatic maroon indian lodge mental disorder
  12/01/25
Yes and I don't care.
Provocative Faggotry
  11/30/25
Why are Hegseth defenders claiming Hegseth gave the order? H...
Crawly red useless brakes
  11/30/25
Hegseth is now pretending he never said “kill them all...
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
Curious choice to deny it. They're all going in front of Co...
Razzmatazz Set
  12/01/25
probably, but won't trump just pardon him?
cowardly mind-boggling base
  12/01/25
We can extradite him to Venezuela and let them try him for m...
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
that won't happen though. the dems will understandably make ...
cowardly mind-boggling base
  12/01/25
Like you know
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
right, one just can't tell from observing the way our govt h...
cowardly mind-boggling base
  12/01/25
Lmao at how desperate libs are getting
irradiated twinkling haunted graveyard sex offender
  12/01/25
...
Fragrant school cafeteria boltzmann
  12/03/25
There's a difference between hors de combat and trying to su...
Cocky rehab
  12/01/25
Ok, if you say so.
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
I do. But it is still considered dishonorable.
Cocky rehab
  12/01/25
You're the expert
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
I'm my expert opinion most law people relying on AI and snea...
Cocky rehab
  12/01/25
tl; dr
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
Am gay. Can host
Cocky rehab
  12/01/25
You seem like an emotional woman. Are you a lawyer?
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
Yes. In fact IHL is something of a speciality of mine.
Cocky rehab
  12/01/25
Why not just say "no I'm not a lawyer?"
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
I'm a faggy gay lawyer tho
Cocky rehab
  12/01/25
No you're not. Why are you lying?
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
I'm a lawyer! I'll out lawyer anybody!
Cocky rehab
  12/01/25
You're being sarcastic because you're not a lawyer. Why lie ...
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
until we see video it should be assumed that the libs made t...
Opaque aphrodisiac jewess
  12/01/25
Why do you still poast under this account? Who do you think ...
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
cr
Galvanic New Version
  12/01/25
This is a TDNW-free subthread now. RSF won't explain why he ...
Crawly red useless brakes
  12/01/25
this is so ridiculous. Cartels brutally torture people, and ...
Fragrant school cafeteria boltzmann
  12/03/25
i can't believe people are actually opposed to this. we have...
Fragrant school cafeteria boltzmann
  12/03/25


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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:46 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

Assuming the following is true, does this constitute a war crime:

The longer the U.S. surveillance aircraft followed the boat, the more confident intelligence analysts watching from command centers became that the 11 people on board were ferrying drugs.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth gave a spoken directive, according to two people with direct knowledge of the operation. “The order was to kill everybody,” one of them said.

A missile screamed off the Trinidad coast, striking the vessel and igniting a blaze from bow to stern. For minutes, commanders watched the boat burning on a live drone feed. As the smoke cleared, they got a jolt: Two survivors were clinging to the smoldering wreck.

The Special Operations commander overseeing the Sept. 2 attack — the opening salvo in the Trump administration’s war on suspected drug traffickers in the Western Hemisphere — ordered a second strike to comply with Hegseth’s instructions, two people familiar with the matter said. The two men were blown apart in the water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469198)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Yes. "Kill everybody" is not a military order. It's a psychopathic utterance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469200)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:59 AM
Author: Galvanic New Version

They followed illegal orders!! They were ILLEGAL! OMG!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469730)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:13 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

That's a non-denial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469736)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: disturbing irate mother gas station

Maybe at some "department of defense" it is not. At the Department of War it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471145)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 10:58 PM
Author: Submissive property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471310)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Avocado zombie-like business firm nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473357)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:48 PM
Author: ocher bearded ratface

race of 2 survivors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469209)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

This was after they failed to survive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469214)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: ocher bearded ratface

Initial survivors yes. Race?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469228)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: histrionic persian

As an Officer, he is subject to getting some of that UCMJ-love.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469213)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

Grok, Claude, and Chat all agree this is unambiguously a war crime, except that the best argument against it being a war crime is that this conflict does not qualify as a war, so it is actually just regular old murder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469217)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: tan hell therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469221)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: comical nighttime gunner crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469779)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: sick stirring sandwich theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471112)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 11:01 PM
Author: Submissive property

He admitted his intent was to kill, and the killings were unlawful by any measure. Slam dunk conviction but Trump will pardon, I'm sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471313)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:52 AM
Author: cream quadroon

oh? "unlawful by any measure"? care to elaborate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473982)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: spruce thriller trust fund temple

Idk if it's a "war crime," but probably violates some gay code of conduct and he should be busted down to Asst. Sec. of War.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469218)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:56 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

Assistant TO the Secretary of War

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469233)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:16 AM
Author: Appetizing corner friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469551)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471023)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:15 PM
Author: bonkers cuckold kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471091)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: Adventurous fortuitous meteor mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471426)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:56 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

It's really just plain old fashioned murder like you learned about in 1L

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469235)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 11:54 PM
Author: swashbuckling cheese-eating menage

what did ur 1L professor say about the extrajudicial killing of Mr. Usama Bin Laden?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469473)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 11:56 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Due process doesn't always require a trial. Sometimes an AUMF is sufficient to deprive a person of life or liberty. Voted on by both houses and signed into law, and it's not a bill of attainder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469474)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 12:02 AM
Author: spruce thriller trust fund temple

They’re not even sending their brightest anymore, bud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469481)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 12:01 AM
Author: spruce thriller trust fund temple

I wasn’t in the same class, but I assume he would have referenced the congressional approval to use all necessary force against Al Qaeda: https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf

You: “but SecWar Pete was authorized by a post that POTUS made while gakked out on addy at 2:30 one morning.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469479)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: misunderstood principal's office electric furnace

Yep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471119)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 11:49 PM
Author: Fuchsia Startled Queen Of The Night Chapel

Were the two survivors plausibly able to use the floating debris to mount a counterattack?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469462)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 12:48 AM
Author: cowardly mind-boggling base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469520)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

Questions that are rarely asked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49470313)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:47 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

There was a risk they might recover some drugs and smuggle them into America. All of these kills are predicated on the fact that drugs are lethal. Not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49470321)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 12:57 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

I do not believe, based on the facts in the Post story, that Bradley could have relied on Hegseth’s order—even if Hegseth formally ordered the second strike. The prohibition on targeting a disabled combatant is so clear that Bradley had a duty, in the words of 18.22.4 of the Manual, “to refuse to comply with clearly illegal orders to commit violations of the law of war.”

https://www.execfunctions.org/p/a-dishonorable-strike?r=4xo6yq&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469525)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

(Hegseth's new lawyer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49470314)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 11:04 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

lol this doesn't exonerate Hegseth at all, it just implicates Bradley. Thank god you're not a lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471314)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: cream quadroon

good link. i'd like to see a reply.

waterboarding isn't torture. etc

i do like how you screeching faggot libs only care about the rule of order when it suits you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49474003)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: onyx insane digit ratio skinny woman

Lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469543)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook

If it was struck by an air strike, then it’s not a war crime. “Combatants” cannot surrender to an aircraft and can be legally killed even when they appear to be surrendering. There were several cases in the Iraq war where Iraqis threw down their weapons and put their hands in the air and were still killed via hellfire missile or 40mm grenades because they couldn’t be taken into custody by the Apache helicopters they were trying to surrender to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469746)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:46 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

Chat says you're applying a real rule incorrectly:

“If attacked from the air, you can kill them even after the initial strike.” — No. This is unlawful

Even in a full, declared armed conflict:

The moment individuals are:

out of the fight,

incapacitated,

shipwrecked,

drowning,

wounded,

thrown into the sea,

or otherwise unable to resist,

…they become hors de combat, and it is absolutely prohibited to kill them.

This is not optional.

This is Article 41 of Additional Protocol I (customary even for states not party) and long-standing customary law.

Shipwrecked persons get special protection under Article 12 of Geneva Convention II. They are to be rescued and protected, not attacked.

✔ The doctrine that "combatants cannot surrender to aircraft" exists — but it is narrow.

❌ It does not justify killing incapacitated survivors.

❌ It does not apply to people in the water.

❌ It does not erase war-crime liability for airstrikes.

If the described second strike occurred, it would violate IHL in almost any legal framing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49470320)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess

this is incorrect

if they can’t reasonably be taken into custody then they are not hors de combat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471028)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:55 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

That response misunderstands the law.

It mixes two different concepts and applies the rule for surrender to the completely separate rule for being hors de combat. In LOAC, these are not interchangeable.

Let me break it down in a way that’s airtight.

✅ 1. “Cannot be taken into custody” is relevant ONLY to surrender, NOT to hors de combat

Surrender rule (voluntary submission):

A person is considered to have surrendered only if:

They clearly express an intention to surrender, and

The opposing forces accept that surrender.

Aircraft often cannot accept surrender — so the law lets aircraft continue engaging.

This doctrine applies ONLY to whether surrender has successfully been communicated.

✅ 2. Hors de combat is a TOTALLY different rule

A person becomes hors de combat if ANY of the following are true (under Additional Protocol I, Art. 41 and customary IHL):

They are unconscious or incapacitated by wounds

They have clearly been rendered defenseless

They are shipwrecked (Geneva Convention II, Art. 12)

They are detained or otherwise unable to fight

NONE of these depend on whether the attacker can take them into custody.

The test is about:

their physical condition,

their capacity to fight,

and whether they are defenseless.

Not about whether a helicopter or aircraft is capable of arresting them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471141)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 10:58 PM
Author: Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook

Your AI chatbot is parroting journalists and ignoring longstanding US martial jurisprudence. Journalists hate it, but combatants attempting to surrender to an aircraft remain legitimate targets and the US, the UK, and others have been killing them on camera for at least 20 years. Its at the commander’s discretion as to whether they accept it or not.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2011-05-23/us-apache-guns-down-surrendering-insurgents

On February 22 2007, a US helicopter engaged a group of insurgents involved in a mortar attack upon coalition forces, near Baghdad.

After firing a series of 30mm rounds, the crew of the helicopter – callsign “Crazyhorse” – radioed to their command, stating the insurgents “wanted to surrender”. The response was blunt: “CRAZYHORSE cleared to engage … Lawyer stated they cannot surrender to aircraft.”

The Apache crew killed the men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471308)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:03 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

The chatbot put it in all caps and you’re still not clocking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471399)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:40 AM
Author: Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook

This was my favorite take, international law in a nutshell:

“According to Bruderlein, if the allegations are correct, both the crew of the helicopter and the officer who cleared them to engage, would be guilty of war crimes. The lawyer who offered the legal advice would, he believes, not be guilty.”

Lawyers are blameless lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471435)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:15 AM
Author: Cobalt dashing native

Rest of the link seems to assert the lawyer basically Made It Up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471662)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook

The rest of the article makes clear the bruderlein guy is an idiot. He takes takes a phrase, passed secondhand and abbreviated for time sensitivity and radio communication, as the entirety of the legal argument. No one was prosecuted for war crimes for any of the incidents mentione. Nor, as far as I know, were they disciplined in any way.

The guy is Canadian, btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49472517)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:01 AM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess

guess what? the shipwrecked rule only applies to COMBATANTS, which these narco terrorists are not

pwned

https://x.com/briancox_rltw/status/1994943625646747794

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471648)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 4:18 PM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49472525)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: French deer antler bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473478)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 6:49 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

I'm the one who posted that that was the best argument against this being a war crime. But if it's not a war crime then it's just regular murder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473652)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 7:33 AM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess

you know what the actual best part is?

the second strike never even happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473673)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: massive striped hyena

More retarded lib pearl clutching

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49469763)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Absolutely no one is defending Hegseth.

No one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471043)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: glassy stage dragon

they're not whores de combat, they're not even de combat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471051)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:58 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Yeah it's plain vanilla murder, we've known that for over 24 hours. ljl@ your fake troll ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471060)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: glassy stage dragon

I'm hors de troll, you can't flame me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471067)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Everyone believes you're real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471082)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: sick stirring sandwich theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471113)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Hairraiser Arrogant Cuckoldry Location

Nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471084)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: aquamarine wagecucks death wish

Cannot be compelled to care about drug smugglers but based upon the people screeching most loudly (who are the same people who have been screeching loudly nearly continuously about something or other since GWB), I’m going to say that this is lib pearl-clutching. Lmao, but the rights of the smugglers!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471095)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: laughsome mahogany meetinghouse

For those saying this is a war crime, if Obama had drone striked Bin Laden, and then saw Bin Laden limping away in the wreckage, would that mean that Obama couldn't have sent in another drone strike?

It all seems a little silly...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471132)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: Vermilion Range

We used to regularly "double tap" in Iraq, Serbia, Afghanistan, etc. This involved hitting a target, waiting for civilian rescue services to arrive and then hit them too. Yeah, what was described in the OP was probably a war crime too but we commit so many of them so regularly that idk that this is where something will happen for anything other than purely political purposes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471160)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 11:10 PM
Author: Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook

That’s not what “double tapping” was/is, and the US never engaged in that.

Double tapping was the practice of shooting enemy corpses as you approached them to ensure they were dead and not just faking it to ambush you. The term was derived from the practice of shooting your enemy twice in the chest to guarantee a mortal wound. A bunch of uppity liberals got pissed and tried to make shooting the enemy a crime, and now there are a bunch of bullshit rules about when and how you can shoot a disabled enemy the irony is that because of the “double tapping is a war crime” crowd, it became standard practice to shoot all the enemies you came across before you walked past them just to ensure you didn’t get pinged for a war crime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471321)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:41 AM
Author: Adventurous fortuitous meteor mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471436)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:50 AM
Author: misunderstood principal's office electric furnace

Outted as someone who never served.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471445)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook

I’ve poasted pictures of my CIB and Ranger Tab multiple times on this boart. You, on the other hand, probably never made it out of BCT (but still brag about serving to smelly bar sluts)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473750)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: Vermilion Range

Wrong on all of that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap_strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49472891)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:31 AM
Author: ebony soul-stirring heaven

lol at this citing a law review article

A Florida Law Review article argued that the practice likely is a war crime since it grossly violates the Geneva Conventions of 1949, which prohibit targeting civilians, the wounded, and those no longer able to continue fighting.[5]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473714)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook

“Double tapping is actually a reference only to secondary strikes, and those strikes are exclusively about targeting civil rescue personnel” *cites source that says the exact opposite*

Each of the US-relevant links states they were targeting combatants and then criticizes them for collateral damage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473754)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: Vermilion Range

https://web.archive.org/web/20150508215824/http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/08/01/get-the-data-the-return-of-double-tap-drone-strikes/

"on six occasions, to have deliberately targeted people going to rescue victims and retrieve the dead from the scene of an earlier attack – a tactic also known as a ‘double-tap’ strike."

Not sure what you're arguing. No one is providing the definition you gave and the point is that this isn't just collateral damage but rather a second later strike specifically to kill the rescue resources. What is the resource that says "the exact opposite?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473956)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Chest-beating lavender travel guidebook

Here is what a double tap is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap_(shooting_technique)

Your “double tap drone strike” terminology is derived from that.

In the Iraq War, some faggy jagoffs tried to claim that the second shot in a double tap was a war crime because the first shot disabled the enemy. We were banned from using the term “double tap” when writing AARs or giving SITREPs, and instead had to use the phrase “controlled pair”.

What I’m arguing is that America does not, and has not, engaged in deliberately baiting firefighters or ambulances or other humanitarians to an area just so they can execute them. You would have to be retarded to think that would be US doctrine. The “opposite” I’m referring to is that the rationales provided by the US are clearly indicate they are striking combatants, not that they are trying to kill civilian rescuers, which is what your definition of double tap includes.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49474675)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:39 PM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess

he is retarded, because he’s a russian Jew who supports double tapping Ukrainian police/firefighters and wants to make it seem like we do this too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49474696)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:25 AM
Author: Hot fiercely-loyal center affirmative action

"But we did it a million times before!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471417)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:37 AM
Author: Submissive property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471430)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:52 AM
Author: misunderstood principal's office electric furnace

"But they had drugs in the boat!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471446)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: Vermilion Range

Right. Which is exactly why this is fake outrage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49472892)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:31 AM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess

this is what russia does

why would the U.S. want to destroy civilian services that they were paying for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471422)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 6:58 PM
Author: Vermilion Range

It turns out that everyone does this. The US doesn't pay for everyone's civilian services.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49472902)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:25 AM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess

no, russians are especially depraved

they did it in Syria and now in Ukraine. cuz liking women and children in their sleep isn’t enough for you mongrels, gotta get the first responders too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473530)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Vermilion Range

So the CIA is a Russian org? https://web.archive.org/web/20150508215824/http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/08/01/get-the-data-the-return-of-double-tap-drone-strikes/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473946)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 7:54 PM
Author: sick stirring sandwich theater

hitting civilian rescue services is a war crime yeah, so if obama did it, it's bad. in the situations in pakistan where he bombed funerals he was hitting active combatants with collateral damage of civilians/rescue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473014)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: Vermilion Range

The "double tap" involves a delayed second attack so that rescue workers and resources arrive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473419)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:36 PM
Author: disturbing irate mother gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473436)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:43 PM
Author: sick stirring sandwich theater

i can't find any verification for that outside your assertion itt. if you're hitting additional combatants that come to the aid of those hit in the first strike, maybe it's lawful. if you're hitting nothing but medics and civilian health workers it's probably a war crime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473444)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:20 PM
Author: Vermilion Range

Really? Am I the only one who has heard about double tap strikes for literally decades? This was GW Bush era shit that managed to get worse under Obama.

Right, but from what I've seen it is generally the latter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49474212)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 4:37 AM
Author: Fragrant school cafeteria boltzmann

you mean the Islamic terrorist we tossed off a boat into the ocean instead of allowing burial and Islamic burial customs? the guy we ripped out of his home and killed everyone else inside?

i can't believe how dumb libs are being about this. i have a lot of stuff i don't like that the Trump admin is doing but holy shit why are libs so fucking retarded. stop opposing everything no matter what just because it wasn't done by your side and trying to find some gotcha angle. that's failed since 2016, and failed hard since 2021. now you want to try to hang your hat on "international law"? LOLOLOL

you need Fetterman to take the floor and say "You know, fuck them, they are enemies of our country the same as any invading army. Stop being pussies."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49479236)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 9:06 PM
Author: Mustard Pisswyrm Hospital

Probably but who cares? War crimes are for the other people. The UN/ICC and any other international org can fuck right off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471162)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:37 AM
Author: Submissive property

"If the U.S. military operation is not an armed conflict of any kind, these orders to kill helpless civilians clinging to the wreckage of a vessel our military destroyed would subject everyone from SECDEF down to the individual who pulled the trigger to prosecution under U.S. law for murder."

https://x.com/gtconway3d/status/1994990468472426924?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471428)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:42 AM
Author: Rusted Territorial Public Bath

not even Israel would do this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471437)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:53 AM
Author: misunderstood principal's office electric furnace

I'm coming around to the view that all 80 killings were murder, but killing the wounded also violated international law. If there was legal justification for killing even one person we would have heard it by now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471447)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 1:06 AM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471459)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 1:34 AM
Author: Hot fiercely-loyal center affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471493)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 1:54 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

That's what I interpret the Washington Post to be saying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471525)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:36 AM
Author: Galvanic New Version

Wow violated international law?? That's the highest law there is! Higher than the constitution!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471672)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:11 AM
Author: French deer antler bawdyhouse

(guy who flunked out of intergalactic law 401)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473480)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 1:26 AM
Author: Haunting electric abode twinkling uncleanness

Whatever it was AZNgirls will always find Handsome Hegseth innocent and demand that he blow up their pussies

But Heggie is definitely burning in hell and I cld imagine him never finding another jerb again and joining OnlyFans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471485)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:07 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

He would crush it on only fans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471652)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:59 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

“Kill them all” is a confession to murder under American law.

https://x.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1995145793393795246?t=tRvTiHtzUPiMTa7Iedic-g&s=19

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49471905)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

So the new shitcon consensus is that Hegseth committed crimes, but should not be punished. Cons aren't even trying to argue the killings were lawful, they're just saying we should leave Hegseth ALONE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49472605)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 7:08 PM
Author: White awkward station reading party

The consensus is that you and all other shitlibs should be rounded up and used for target practice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49472919)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 7:10 PM
Author: Beady-eyed burgundy indirect expression macaca

Hows this going libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49472923)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Update: Hegseth said he never gave the kill order. LOL@ RSF blowing a gasket over this nothingburger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473301)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:30 PM
Author: Vibrant Lilac Foreskin Newt

yes obviously. he'll be pardoned by Trump though. Dems will still make his life hell when Newsom is elected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473422)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: Aromatic maroon indian lodge mental disorder

Send him to The Hague then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473486)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:37 PM
Author: Provocative Faggotry

Yes and I don't care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473439)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:39 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Why are Hegseth defenders claiming Hegseth gave the order? Hegseth himself says he never gave it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473440)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 6:42 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Hegseth is now pretending he never said “kill them all,” which basically dumps every one of those double-tap killers into the line of fire. He’s implying those service members carried out illegal orders, tossing their careers, their honour, and their freedom under the bus to save his own ass.

https://x.com/SkylineReport/status/1995216101916176546?t=4qazSz6g8OzWKG9D8bnwqA&s=19

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473644)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 6:51 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Set

Curious choice to deny it. They're all going in front of Congress soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473653)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 7:06 AM
Author: cowardly mind-boggling base

probably, but won't trump just pardon him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473662)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 7:35 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

We can extradite him to Venezuela and let them try him for murder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473675)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 7:38 AM
Author: cowardly mind-boggling base

that won't happen though. the dems will understandably make a spectacle/issue of this, but he's never going to suffer consequences even if it is determined that he committed a war crime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473676)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:09 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Like you know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473691)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: cowardly mind-boggling base

right, one just can't tell from observing the way our govt has operated the last 70 or so years. you just can't tell!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49474303)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: irradiated twinkling haunted graveyard sex offender

Lmao at how desperate libs are getting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473688)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 4:40 AM
Author: Fragrant school cafeteria boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49479237)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:44 AM
Author: Cocky rehab

There's a difference between hors de combat and trying to survive clinging to an attacked ship flotsam. The latter is not hors de combat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473734)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Ok, if you say so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473745)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:55 AM
Author: Cocky rehab

I do. But it is still considered dishonorable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473753)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:57 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

You're the expert

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473759)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: Cocky rehab

I'm my expert opinion most law people relying on AI and sneaky professors with a Marxist agenda will point to hundreds of military manuals explicitly calling firing on shipwrecked survivors as a war crime and that jet are hors de combat. But if you look deeper there is clear distinction in them that survivors actually must still be hors de combat and incapable of further attack to receive protections. As good textualists we all know this clarifying point wouldn't be necessary if it's taken at face value that all shipwrecked are incapable of continuing combat functions. Some say it is, but I say those people are poor lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473765)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:02 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

tl; dr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473766)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: Cocky rehab

Am gay. Can host

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473770)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:05 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

You seem like an emotional woman. Are you a lawyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473771)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: Cocky rehab

Yes. In fact IHL is something of a speciality of mine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473772)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Why not just say "no I'm not a lawyer?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473773)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:08 AM
Author: Cocky rehab

I'm a faggy gay lawyer tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473774)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:09 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

No you're not. Why are you lying?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473778)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: Cocky rehab

I'm a lawyer! I'll out lawyer anybody!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473779)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:11 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

You're being sarcastic because you're not a lawyer. Why lie about that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473782)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Opaque aphrodisiac jewess

until we see video it should be assumed that the libs made this one up whole cloth

surviving a hellfire strike? doubtful

clinging to burning wreckage in the open seas? laughable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473749)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:57 AM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

Why do you still poast under this account? Who do you think you're fooling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473760)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: Galvanic New Version

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49473959)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: Crawly red useless brakes

This is a TDNW-free subthread now. RSF won't explain why he still uses that account

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49474242)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 4:02 AM
Author: Fragrant school cafeteria boltzmann

this is so ridiculous. Cartels brutally torture people, and have made their own governments their bitch, for the last several decades. we know China and other nation states are providing precursors specifically to destabilize us through the cartels. these aren't other countries playing by the "rules of war."

we're not bombing children like Israel. these are drug smugglers on a boat full of drugs in the middle of the Caribbean. if they're State sponsored and want to invoke international treaties about "war crimes" then step up. otherwise, yes, kill them all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49479229)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 4:20 AM
Author: Fragrant school cafeteria boltzmann

i can't believe people are actually opposed to this. we have the most powerful military in the world, and very well funded and extremely brutal people sponsored by either nation states directly or indirectly are bringing in heavy drugs specifically to destabilize us or to extract money from us, and people are handwringing over blowing up a boat filled with drugs and killing everyone on board? there was absolutely no chance anyone on that boat was innocent. but let's go further, what if, maybe, some guy brought his girlfriend on board and she didn't really know what she was getting into. so what? this is a boat traveling through international waters on the way to our coast with a bunch of criminals associated with a large criminal organization and full of drugs.

i have things i don't like about Trump or this administration but this isn't one of them. libs, you are picking the wrong battles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2!#49479231)