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GM dropping Apple CarPlay from their cars
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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:25 PM Author: twinkling kitchen really tough guy https://www.theverge.com/24285581/gm-software-baris-cetinok-apple-carplay-android-auto-google-cars-evs-decoder-podcast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#48284131) |
Date: November 4th, 2024 11:27 PM Author: Ungodly Low-t Shrine Pervert GM is going to produce software superior to Apple or Google? Hmmm... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#48284147) |
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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:28 PM Author: twinkling kitchen really tough guy Yeah, this guy is a retard and it's a horrible decision. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#48284155) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:19 PM Author: Wine odious tank Android and Apple licensing fees add at least $500 to the cost of a new car. You're paying for both but only using one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374156) |
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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:29 PM Author: Startled Legal Warrant Jap I'm not even going to click on the link but why would you do this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#48284161) |
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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:31 PM Author: twinkling kitchen really tough guy I don't know. I don't even know why this guy is allowed to make that call. Seems like sales people and dealers would put a stop to it. I'm sure a lot of people just won't consider buying a car without CarPlay and will buy a Ford or whatever instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#48284166) |
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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:41 PM Author: Startled Legal Warrant Jap I guess he hates money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#48284215) |
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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:35 PM Author: Pink bespoke spot partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49383569) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:08 PM Author: Wine odious tank Because Apple charges yuge licensing fees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374132) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:08 PM Author: floppy bronze institution Seems like they're still rolling this out - speculation is so they can capture subscription fees for their shitty software
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/gm-is-eliminating-apple-carplay-and-android-auto-from-all-vehicles-here-s-the-real-reason-why/ar-AA1Pb1TD?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=896ae5a625f345e8e930b8ac9671a439&ei=17 |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: well-lubricated friendly grandma Fuck that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374056) |
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Date: October 26th, 2025 12:17 AM Author: Wine odious tank That article reads like it was sponsored by Apple. It's well known that these companies gouge carmakers on licensing fees, because Toyota refused to deal with Google for YEARS after every other automaker made Android standard. I think 2021-ish was the first year you could use Android in a Toyota.
EDIT: confirmed it was not there in 2020
https://www.reddit.com/r/Toyota/comments/vzaamo/my_2020_corolla_only_has_apple_car_play_but_no/ |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:42 PM Author: Curious Masturbator Pistol lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374074) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:43 PM Author: Haunting Meetinghouse Selfie Car manufacturers *hate* that people use Google maps with their cars without paying them monthly fees for it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374077) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:08 PM Author: dashing peach parlour trust fund They hate not getting the tracking data too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374272) |
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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:35 PM Author: Pink bespoke spot partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49383571) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:48 PM Author: mildly autistic gas station “ Today, I’m talking with Baris Cetinok, who has one of the longest titles of any person we’ve had here on Decoder. He is, officially, General Motors’ senior vice president, software and services, product management, program management, and design.”
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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:01 PM Author: metal deep twinkling uncleanness I have never tried CarPlay. I have never even tried to connect my phone to a car. Do people actually do that? lol. Why doesn’t GM just make a car that’s not connected to the grid and advertise it as an untethered vehicle you can work on at home in your garage. Tons of people will buy that product. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374120) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:07 PM Author: Ebony violent lay generalized bond (my dad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374131) |
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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:39 PM Author: Slippery bateful property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49383588) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:26 PM Author: Wine odious tank I have a Garmin GPS that lets me send addresses from my phone via bluetooff. It also gets live traffic updates and has much better lane guidance than Apple or Google Maps. It doesn't track my shit or upload any of my POIs to the cloud, and it gives me faster routes that Google about 50% time, since Google Maps chooses the most "fuel efficient" route by default, not the fastest. I can also take it with me when I travel abroad and I've used it in Europe and Latin America without issue. If you don't want to pay for foreign maps you can download pirated copies and load them from a microSD card.
This also lets me get cars with base model stereos that can be upgraded. Even if the head unit can't be replaced, you can throw one of these bad boys in an empty space behind the glove box and instantly improve any sound system:
Works with new cars:
https://i.imgur.com/sr8raeV.png
It's only 4-channel, but you can use it for your 4 biggest speakers and let the head unit drive the smaller ones. |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:38 PM Author: metal deep twinkling uncleanness I have no idea why you’d want to undertake any of these projects. What the fuck do you need maps for? Just go to the place where the thing is at. Build in a little extra time to account for traffic. The speaker shit was all mumbojumbo to me. Who needs speakers to drive anything in a car? Tired of the wind. Roll up the window. Listen to the sounds of the road and the machine. Who would want to distract from that with speakers and relentless insolent noises been brought therefrom? |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:40 PM Author: Wine odious tank New cars have a lot of cabin noise because the sound deadening material they used in the 1990s adds significant weight. That's why I always snag a box of Dynamat and do the door panels all around:
It really does weigh a fuckton though. If you do the rear hatch in a SUV plus all the doors it will put a noticeable dent in mileage. Some people do the floors and trunk but dat too heavy 4 me |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:33 PM Author: Mind-boggling Burgundy Lettuce oh no I guess that means you can’t find a way to connect 🙄 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374195) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:28 PM Author: Vigorous mauve field messiness are ppl more beholden to their car or their phone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49374307) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:59 PM Author: Mind-boggling Burgundy Lettuce phone
I bought an older 4x4 that I equipped with CarPlay but otherwise it’s a dumb machine and I only wish it were dumber |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:42 PM Author: Jet boyish kitty cat terrible idea. the only thing worse than CarPlay is every other type of car software i've experienced.
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Date: October 25th, 2025 10:35 PM Author: floppy bronze institution THe obvious problem is it works too well. You can replace your phone every 3 years and everything works great.
They want to give you proprietary software that is never updated so that you have to replace your car every 3 years. |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 11:16 PM Author: metal deep twinkling uncleanness Never used car play, not even in a rental, what the hell is it useful for? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49375116) |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 11:22 PM Author: floppy bronze institution I've only used it in rentals, but it basically just takes your compatible phone apps and puts them in your car.
So instead of using the shitty Volvo navigation app, you can just open Google Maps on your phone and it'll display on the car. Same thing if you're listening to an Apple Podcast, it displays in the car (and you can use the car display to control your phone in these apps too).
So basically, the car display becomes an extra screen for your phone to use maps/podcasts/texting/phone/spotify/etc.
I think most proprietary car software will probably do something similar, but its obviously better if Apple/Android are creating the software versus fucking BMW. |
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Date: October 25th, 2025 11:40 PM Author: Jet boyish kitty cat yeah, this is what i use it for as well. accessing my own personal podcast lists, music, maps, etc through a simple interface in rental cars.
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Date: October 26th, 2025 12:18 AM Author: well-lubricated friendly grandma 180, more screens (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49375228) |
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Date: October 26th, 2025 12:33 AM Author: metal deep twinkling uncleanness I’ve never listened to a podcast or a song of anything like that on my phone. Is CarPlay useful for things like posting? Is there a text recognition feature so you can poast handsfree on the road? Does the software understand all the intricacies of how to navigate autoadmit, such as what “New Message” button to select based on context? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49375255) |
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Date: October 26th, 2025 12:44 AM Author: floppy bronze institution Absolutely. Part of the reason autoadmit fails to load like 30% on desktop is because Rach has been optimizing it for carplay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49375262) |
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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:41 PM Author: twinkling kitchen really tough guy I would never consider buying a car that did not have CarPlay or a way to use Waze natively. Lol at buying a new car in 2025 and having to put up a dashboard phone mount like it's 2010. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49383161) |
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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:35 PM Author: Pink bespoke spot partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49383572) |
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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:58 PM Author: electric electric furnace True. It’s absurd they’d even waste their time with this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2!#49383635) |