But to answer your q - if you're smart you find a rent stabilized apartments or you live in Hoboken/Jersey City. If you're dumb you live in some apartment you can't actually afford but get roommates and deal with that drama. You feel pretty poor and are budgeting everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50119550)

prole tell, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50119700)

Couple raising a few young children

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50119898)

Couple raising kids? Legit 7 figures or a lot of net worth/family money to leverage. In MFH you'll need like a 3+ bedroom and that is absurdly expensive. You're paying $10k+ just in rent. Taxes are absurd in NYC. Private school is $50k/year/kid. You're going to need a car and garage. Basically anything normal people do will be more expensive and harder in NYC. There is a reason that pretty much no one with real money attempts to raise kids in NYC. They leave and head to one of the areas around NYC or leave the area entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50119991)

1. People that live in some rent controlled/stabilized/HDFC apartment.

2. People that work for the NYC government have to live in NYC. The sad thing is that the wife was the government worker and she got pancreatic cancer and died.

3. Absurdly wealthy people (Biglaw partners) that don't want to leave and can afford it.

All of them are effectively corner cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50125482)

what kind of pedigree/employability does one need to have to break free out of that zone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50119702)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50119831)

https://streeteasy.com/building/46-rivington-street-new_york/1c

https://streeteasy.com/building/323-west-43-street-new_york/5r

https://streeteasy.com/building/155-west-106-street-new_york/1a

https://streeteasy.com/building/1864-adam-c-powell-blvd-new_york/64

https://streeteasy.com/building/517-west-48-street-new_york/5f

This is a great example of the type of person NYC is actually made for. I knew people like this. They were journalists or whatever and didn't make real money but came from wealthy families so they bought one of these apartments and their families covered private schools for the kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50120016)

$10,000 in 1985 is worth about $31,033.27 today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50120362)

Pricey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50120005)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk8rZfuJiiw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50120433)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50120440)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50120575)

The doormen in my building make like 80-90K per year, much of it in tax-free tips. One of them is a charismatic Puerto Rican bodybuilder who fucks tons of hot chicks. They're not UES socialites but some are upwardly mobile nurse practitioners, real estate agents, etc.

What you don't understand (or remember) is that NYC has tons of gays, foreigners, and other undesirables for hot white women under 35. And women generally only want to date men of a similar social class. There are just way more single women than men, and the sex and the city culture has indoctrinated NYC women to be depraved whores to attract men. There's really nothing like it in the US.

Moral of the story is you are OK dating here even under 200k if you are a chad or even just charismatic/ambitious. But if you want to lock down a good wife from a wealthy family you will not even be a blip on the radar at 200K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901164&forum_id=2!#50125991)