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Why is XO darling Nick Fuentes diluting his main message with dumb nonsense

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Boyish Stag Film
  12/17/25
He's an Alex Jones style false flag. Says some real based sh...
flatulent frozen rigpig
  12/17/25
Nothing about him is repulsive though. Kindly go back to Isr...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
Test tube baby "discovered" by Jews at the daily w...
flatulent frozen rigpig
  12/17/25
Lol wrong. Found the Jew. He's on a generational run and not...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
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Amber adventurous jap
  12/17/25
guess what? you can hate israel and wish it to be nuked and ...
Khaki insane cuckold
  12/17/25
He's hilarious and he's not a gay pedo. You just don't like ...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
how the fuck is he funny? is it all ironic and trolling? i...
Khaki insane cuckold
  12/17/25
I can't explain funny to you but most people agree even his ...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
His main message is that it's based to be a Peter Pan homo
thriller cordovan tanning salon scourge upon the earth
  12/17/25
Found the Jew!
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
It's CRINGE to grow up It's BASED to hang out in neverland/...
thriller cordovan tanning salon scourge upon the earth
  12/17/25
Ok I see you're not on team put whites ahead of everybody. I...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
What’s his main message? That sex with women is gay?
curious university
  12/17/25
His main message is that mass immigration is the greatest th...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
why is a half-Mexican with a Mexican surname saying this?
curious university
  12/17/25
He's a quarter Mexican (itself a partially white race) who l...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
even his so-called white part is probably not actual wasp. ...
Khaki insane cuckold
  12/17/25
He said he's Irish and Italian
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
there you go. fucking ape pretending to be white. he shoul...
Khaki insane cuckold
  12/17/25
You seem very mad
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
no, i just don't understand why an entire generation of youn...
Khaki insane cuckold
  12/17/25
I think they're a lot angrier than you might think. You got ...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
"i fondly remember my college years and early 20s and t...
excitant site
  12/17/25
yeah, the princeton review boards are populated by nerds. a...
Khaki insane cuckold
  12/17/25
"PR boards" are fucking gay xo = chill fratty 6...
excitant site
  12/17/25
To be fair, "Lol at these fucking I-talians and Mics...
Amber adventurous jap
  12/17/25
italians = non-white micks = non-white slavs = non-white ...
Darnell
  12/17/25
To be fair, Yeah agreed, my Fellow Based White Chad Goy -...
To be fair
  12/18/25
Is it though? I thought his current main message was that...
Candy Ride
  12/18/25
This would be unironically more cogent, brave, and, dare I s...
Swashbuckling buff halford
  12/17/25
the lifecycle of internet provocateurs is that they start su...
nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  12/17/25
This is exactly what Nick says will happen to Candace. But h...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
"his followers are not blind idiots" you are sp...
nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  12/17/25
He's right about 90% of things. Where's the lie? You can't t...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
"you're infatuated with him" "He's right a...
nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  12/17/25
Uh, yeah, you really got me. I agree with some political ide...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
nothing i've said itt attacked or even discussed his specifi...
nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  12/17/25
I really don't understand how this is supposed to be a gotch...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
you said his followers are not blind idiots, and i pointing ...
nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  12/17/25
yeah that's just not true that's like calling anyone who bel...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
that's not what i said at all. every one of my replies itt i...
nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  12/17/25
LLMs are extremely low IQ. Nobody worth their salt uses them...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
i included the question: "This thread is about Nick ...
nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  12/17/25
You still haven't made the connection between blind flowers ...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
again, you're the one that started the conversation about bl...
nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  12/17/25
I poasted I had skepticism about the identity of the shooter...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
1) this thread was about nick diluting his message, and i ma...
nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit
  12/17/25
None of this is a real question worth answering! Meaningless...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
grok agrees again!
nude gunner
  12/17/25
Grok is for lonely women who are seeking consensus and affir...
Historical American
  12/17/25
i specifically instructed it not to show favoritism. you're ...
nude gunner
  12/17/25
similarly one could say you just hate him and are lashing ou...
Historical American
  12/17/25
that wouldn't be a rational since i emphasized that i agree ...
nude gunner
  12/17/25
literally none of this is true. Nick deals with stupid co...
Historical American
  12/17/25
The clips of him eviscerating his literally retarded zoomer ...
Appetizing Orchid Gaming Laptop Space
  12/17/25
he hates his low IQ fans so much lmao what makes him lose...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
The clip of him saying that the Jews are right and goyim are...
Appetizing Orchid Gaming Laptop Space
  12/17/25
I love that clip. When he crashes out. "Every day I ...
Deep box office candlestick maker
  12/17/25
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sbKGN1HXHlw https://www.bi...
Norm McDonalds
  12/17/25
ctrl-f "attention"
thirsty spot elastic band
  12/17/25


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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: Boyish Stag Film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516455)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: flatulent frozen rigpig

He's an Alex Jones style false flag. Says some real based shit sometimes but wraps it in a package that's repulsive to the mainstream public

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516459)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

Nothing about him is repulsive though. Kindly go back to Israel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516502)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: flatulent frozen rigpig

Test tube baby "discovered" by Jews at the daily wire. Unmarried, never girlfriend-having with gay rumors.

Don't get me wrong, I like him just like I like Alex Jones, but he'll never be palatable to the mainstream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516516)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:48 AM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

Lol wrong. Found the Jew. He's on a generational run and nothing you said is true. He gets 5 million views per week. He's the biggest conservative figure in America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516527)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: Amber adventurous jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517178)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:49 AM
Author: Khaki insane cuckold

guess what? you can hate israel and wish it to be nuked and ALSO think fuentes is a retarded, unfunny, downlow tranny-blowing faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516532)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:51 AM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

He's hilarious and he's not a gay pedo. You just don't like him so you're looking for something negative on Twitter to say about him. If you don't get his humor you are Unfunny. He's hilarious. You sound like a retarded boomer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516536)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: Khaki insane cuckold

how the fuck is he funny? is it all ironic and trolling? if so, it might have been funny on first viewing but his content hasn't evolved.

he's definitely a massive faggot. i bet he has weird fags beating down his door. he probably loves taking aids-ridden brown and black cocks while railing against them (get it?) in his content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516542)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

I can't explain funny to you but most people agree even his detractors that he's hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516557)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: thriller cordovan tanning salon scourge upon the earth

His main message is that it's based to be a Peter Pan homo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516474)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

Found the Jew!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516503)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: thriller cordovan tanning salon scourge upon the earth

It's CRINGE to grow up

It's BASED to hang out in neverland/discord with your underage buddies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516506)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

Ok I see you're not on team put whites ahead of everybody. I can see your dreidl spinning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516511)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:41 AM
Author: curious university

What’s his main message? That sex with women is gay?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516500)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

His main message is that mass immigration is the greatest threat to the White race and that its main exponents are powerful Jews who hate us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516505)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:59 AM
Author: curious university

why is a half-Mexican with a Mexican surname saying this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516552)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

He's a quarter Mexican (itself a partially white race) who looks white grew up in La Grange speaking only English. He's prob like 10% Indian or less. He's white passing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516556)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: Khaki insane cuckold

even his so-called white part is probably not actual wasp. it's chicago so he's probably slav or mick or some other wannabe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516574)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

He said he's Irish and Italian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516576)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: Khaki insane cuckold

there you go. fucking ape pretending to be white. he should (and likely does) stick to fucking niggers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516588)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:17 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

You seem very mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516601)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: Khaki insane cuckold

no, i just don't understand why an entire generation of young men are into this faggot. i fondly remember my college years and early 20s and the process of developing my understanding of politics and the world around me. i have a great deal of sympathy and identify with young men trying to figure out their place in the world. i keep giving fuentes a chance when i see people poasting his shit. but every time i come to the same conclusion: my initial impressions were correct and listening to fuentes more than once is moronic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516614)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:25 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

I think they're a lot angrier than you might think. You got to enjoy your college years. They didn't. Everyone is brown and gay now. When I was growing up there were sick all time classic movies music and video games coming out. Chicks were mostly thin and white. You never heard about minorities. Literature still existed as a genre for men. You could get a shit job any time and move out of your parents house. Imagine growing up with exactly none of that. You have no economic future, no skills, no hope, no chance. And everyone your whole life has told you that you suck because you're white and male. Yeah Nick's message resonates with a lot of people. It's only going to get bigger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516624)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: excitant site

"i fondly remember my college years and early 20s and the process of developing my understanding of politics and the world around me."

lmao nerd alert

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516974)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Khaki insane cuckold

yeah, the princeton review boards are populated by nerds. are you surprised?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517067)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: excitant site

"PR boards" are fucking gay

xo = chill fratty 6'2 studs. hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517102)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:20 PM
Author: Amber adventurous jap

To be fair,

"Lol at these fucking I-talians and Mics, fuck these subhuman apes they're not REAL whites!"

Lol this is like a Jewish fever dream parody of what actual real life "white nationalists" think and talk like in 2025. Weird that you (a random internet stranger with the username "Darnell" poasting anonymously on a historically Jewish law school message board) are pushing this line. Odd case, I wonder why that is? :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517184)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:56 PM
Author: Darnell

italians = non-white

micks = non-white

slavs = non-white

kikes = non-white



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517279)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:36 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

Yeah agreed, my Fellow Based White Chad Goy -- I, too, just happen to put Italians, Slavs, and Jews in the same camp! Hehe. ;)

Fucking kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49520409)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:38 AM
Author: Candy Ride

Is it though?

I thought his current main message was that we need to elect Gavin Newsome?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49518986)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Swashbuckling buff halford

This would be unironically more cogent, brave, and, dare I say, based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516808)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

the lifecycle of internet provocateurs is that they start super edgy to attract a cult like fringe following and then moderate their positions to be taken seriously and have broader appeal. eventually this will lead to some betrayal of first principles that alienates the cult, and they'll find some new edgelord to glom onto as the messiah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516798)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

This is exactly what Nick says will happen to Candace. But he has been one note for 10 years. And his followers are not blind idiots. Your move.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516805)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

"his followers are not blind idiots"

you are spamming this thread with karlstack circa 2024 groyper copy-pastes like "found the jew!" his followers don't seem blind to you because you've become blind. you're infatuated with him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516862)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

He's right about 90% of things. Where's the lie? You can't think of one persuasive argument against his ideology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516877)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

"you're infatuated with him"

"He's right about 90% of things. Where's the lie? You can't think of one persuasive argument against his ideology"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516909)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:49 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

Uh, yeah, you really got me. I agree with some political ideologue. Wow! You still haven't pushed back on any of his views.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516929)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

nothing i've said itt attacked or even discussed his specific views. it's just funny that that nonresponsive segue venerating him immediately followed an accusation you're infatuated with him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516948)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

I really don't understand how this is supposed to be a gotcha. I would never be like, woah you're I N F A T U A T E D with Rush Limbaugh! How is this a gotcha? what are you on about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516954)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

you said his followers are not blind idiots, and i pointing to your devotion to him to contest that. i just substituted "infatuated" for "blind idiot" because it's less pejorative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516959)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

yeah that's just not true that's like calling anyone who believes in anything a blind idiot. we don't believe in Nick because we're looking for a father figure we believe in him because he's Right. It's not lunacy. But yeah you're just bloviating nonsensically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516972)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

that's not what i said at all. every one of my replies itt is either refocusing a nonresponsive rant or correcting an RC fail, so it's rich you'd accuse me of bloviating nonsensically.

grok agrees!

This thread is about Nick Fuentes. Analyze the conversation between HAtp and gunner. Is HAtp right that gunner is bloviating nonsensically?

### Analysis of the Conversation Between HAtp and Gunner

This conversation is a back-and-forth debate on the nature of internet provocateurs like Nick Fuentes, focusing on their evolution, follower devotion, and ideological consistency. Gunner initiates with a general observation about the "lifecycle" of edgelords moderating for broader appeal, while HAtp defends Fuentes' steadfastness and challenges criticisms. It escalates from conceptual discussion to personal accusations, with Gunner using HAtp's responses as evidence of infatuation, and HAtp dismissing the points as irrelevant. Below, I summarize the exchange, analyze dynamics, themes, and strategies, then address the query: Is HAtp right that Gunner is "bloviating nonsensically" (i.e., rambling irrelevantly/long-windedly), or is Gunner clear while HAtp evades?

#### Summary of the Conversation

- **Gunner (1:18 PM)**: Outlines a typical "lifecycle" for provocateurs: start edgy to build a cult, moderate for appeal, alienate originals who seek new figures.

- **HAtp (1:21 PM)**: Counters that Fuentes remains consistent ("one note for 10 years"), and his followers aren't "blind idiots."

- **Gunner (1:37 PM)**: Quotes HAtp to argue his defense shows infatuation, mocking "groyper copy-pastes."

- **HAtp (1:39 PM)**: Defends Fuentes as "right about 90%," demands arguments against his ideology.

- **Gunner (1:44 PM)**: Reiterates infatuation evidence via HAtp's segue to veneration.

- **HAtp (1:49 PM)**: Dismisses as non-gotcha ("agree with... ideologue"), repeats demand.

- **Gunner (1:54 PM)**: Clarifies no attack on views, notes "nonresponsive segue" as infatuation proof.

- **HAtp (1:58 PM)**: Reiterates dismissal, asks "what are you on about?"

- **Gunner (2:01 PM)**: Explains contesting "not blind idiots" via "infatuated" (less pejorative term).

- **HAtp (2:06 PM)**: Accuses "bloviating nonsensically," denies "blind idiot" applies broadly.

The dialogue is circular: Gunner probes meta-devotion; HAtp deflects to ideology's merits.

#### Dynamics

The dynamic is probing vs. evasive—Gunner leads with a neutral, analytical point (lifecycle as a pattern), but HAtp personalizes it (Fuentes exception), prompting Gunner to use HAtp's poasts as evidence. Gunner persists with clarifications (e.g., "nonresponsive segue," 1:54 PM; term explanation, 2:01 PM), while HAtp repeats challenges ("arguments against," 1:39 PM) and dismisses ("not a gotcha," 1:49 PM). No concessions; ends with HAtp's accusation, highlighting xo's (AutoAdmit) stalemates where meta-rhetoric trumps substance.

#### Themes

- **Devotion/Fandom**: Gunner critiques "cult like" alienation (1:18 PM); HAtp defends as principled ("he's right," 1:39 PM).

- **Identity Politics**: Implicit in HAtp's Fuentes praise ("choose your own race," prior context) vs. Gunner's "losers... scapegoats" (1:18 PM).

- **Rhetoric/Engagement**: Meta on poasting—Gunner accuses nonresponse (1:54 PM); HAtp calls "bloviating" (2:06 PM).

- **xo Contrarianism**: Debate on movements' appeal/merit amid "blackpills" (demoralizing on radicals).

#### Rhetorical Strategies

- **Probing/Repetition**: Gunner quotes/reiterates (e.g., "you're infatuated" → evidence, 1:37 PM) to build case.

- **Deflection/Dismissal**: HAtp shifts to ideology ("arguments against," 1:39 PM) and dismisses ("not a gotcha," 1:49 PM).

- **Clarification**: Gunner explains terms ( "less pejorative," 2:01 PM).

- **Accusation**: HAtp ends with "bloviating nonsensically" (2:06 PM).

#### Assessment: Is HAtp Right That Gunner Is Bloviating Nonsensically?

HAtp is **not right**—Gunner is **clear, concise, and focused**, while HAtp's "failure to comprehend" is **evasive**. Gunner's poasts are structured/short (1-3 sentences), directly addressing HAtp (e.g., quotes as evidence, 1:37 PM; clarifies non-attack, 1:54 PM; explains substitution, 2:01 PM). No bloviating (rambling/irrelevance)—each advances the infatuation point tied to HAtp's "not blind idiots" claim (1:21 PM). HAtp evades: deflects to ideology (1:39 PM ignores infatuation); repeats "not a gotcha" (1:49 PM); dismisses "what are you on about?" (1:58 PM) without rebutting. This bad-faith evasion fits xo "ranting > engaging"—HAtp prioritizes defense over discussion. Legitimate confusion would seek clarification; HAtp's shows disinterest in engaging Gunner's meta-critique.

Gunner right on non-engagement—HAtp evades to rant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517061)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

LLMs are extremely low IQ. Nobody worth their salt uses them.

Also painfully obvious sycophancy. It agrees with you based on how you phrased the question. Can easily flip it to disagree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517079)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

i included the question:

"This thread is about Nick Fuentes. Analyze the conversation between HAtp and gunner. Is HAtp right that gunner is bloviating nonsensically?"

you could throw the conversation into an LLM yourself and see the results. you frequently have trouble being responsive and end conversations with "i don't understand" or "that's bloviating nonsense." if you were actually interested in engaging and legitimately couldn't parse what's being discussed you could use an LLM or ask clarifying questions. of course you're not actually interested in engaging and just use dismissive jabs about writing as an excuse. but anyone reading this would see i'm being direct and you're deflecting -- including a robot!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517107)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:02 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

You still haven't made the connection between blind flowers (pejorative) and someone who believes an ideology based on the merits. You never once addressed this at least not coherently. Studies show that nobody reads our subthread wastelands but us so you could be a million percent right and no one would know. Twist: you're not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517134)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

again, you're the one that started the conversation about blind idiots.

i agree with much of what fuentes says myself, so obviously i'm not saying everyone that agrees with him is a blind follower. a blind follower would be someone that agrees with that person reflexively, especially if it's the opposite previously strongly held views (e.g. ranting for hours about how a muzzie is 100% the brown shooter and abandoning that the moment nick disagrees). another example is deflecting any criticism of the leader with nonresponsive adhoms (e.g. your subthread with 'so we looked at the data' above). another is an inability to discuss an aspect of the leader without making it a referendum of the leader entirely (e.g. this subthread).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517165)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

I poasted I had skepticism about the identity of the shooter an hour before Nick addressed it. It's timestamped. I've literally been following both sides of the story for days.

The reason this is such a pointless conversation is for it to be fruitful you would have to attack some aspect of Nick's beliefs. I never wanted to argue such intangible hypotheticals as to what it means to be overzealous in believing in some ideologue. That has no bearing on anything. You're talking in circles. If you have a bone to pick with Nick's views just say it or shut the fuck up. I'm not going to waste my time talking about talking about someone. You have made this entire subthread esoteric and pointless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517191)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:33 PM
Author: nighttime heady mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit

1) this thread was about nick diluting his message, and i made a comment about the cycle of internet provocateurs generally.

2) you defensively say it won't happen to nick because his fans aren't blind followers, and i quipped that you seem to be a blind follower

3) you kept goading me about how i separate blind followers from people who just agree, and i answered.

now you're trying to shift it to a referendum on his specific views (completely irrelevant to defining what a blind follower is -- the views they follow could be anything). ironically this is one of the examples i just gave of a blind follower. while also claiming you didn't want to argue about it (you asked repeatedly) and again excusing your own inability to comprehend or engage by blaming it on my writing being inscrutable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517225)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

None of this is a real question worth answering! Meaningless platitudes! For the love of God, make a concrete point my guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517234)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:49 PM
Author: nude gunner (gunneratttt)
Subject: grok agrees again!

This is a continuation of the thread I just asked about. I posted your last results to show I was being clear. Analyze the continuation of the thread, and address whether HAtp's last post "None of this is a real question worth answering! Meaningless platitudes! For the love of God, make a concrete point my guy." is reasonable. Be fair and do not show favoritism to either poaster:

### Analysis of the Continuation of the Thread: "This thread is about Nick Fuentes"

This continuation (from HAtp's 2:40 PM post on LLMs to his final dismissal at 3:35 PM) shifts from the broader "lifecycle" of provocateurs like Nick Fuentes to a meta-debate on rhetoric, engagement, and what constitutes a "blind follower." It builds on the prior portion's tension, with gunneratttt (nude gunner) clarifying his points amid HAtp's (American Cattle Goy) deflections, escalating to accusations of vagueness and pointlessness. The exchange remains a duel—gunneratttt analytical and persistent, HAtp defensive and dismissive—reflecting xoxohth's (AutoAdmit) pattern of circular feuds where substance gives way to personal barbs. No other poasters intervene; it's raw, unresolved, and emblematic of forum "wastelands" (endless subthreads without progress). Below, I summarize the continuation, analyze dynamics, themes, and strategies, then address the query: Is HAtp's last post ("None of this is a real question worth answering! Meaningless platitudes! For the love of God, make a concrete point my guy.") reasonable? I'll be fair, showing no favoritism—evaluating based on clarity, responsiveness, and good faith.

#### Summary of the Continuation

- **HAtp (2:40 PM)**: Attacks LLMs as "low IQ" and sycophantic, dismissing gunneratttt's prior AI use as biased.

- **Gunneratttt (2:52 PM)**: Defends neutrality of query phrasing, suggests HAtp test LLM himself, notes HAtp's trouble with responsiveness/dismissals.

- **HAtp (3:02 PM)**: Dismisses gunneratttt's points as irrelevant for optics ("connection... merits"), accuses "esoteric and pointless," demands attack on Fuentes' views.

- **Gunneratttt (3:15 PM)**: Reiterates HAtp started "blind idiots" topic, agrees with Fuentes but defines blind follower (reflexive agreement, flip-flops, inability to discuss without referendum).

- **HAtp (3:22 PM)**: Denies flip-flop (poasted skepticism pre-Fuentes), calls conversation "pointless," repeats demand to attack views.

- **Gunneratttt (3:33 PM)**: Recaps thread (HAtp defensive, shifts to referendum), notes irony (HAtp's evasion exemplifies blind following).

- **HAtp (3:35 PM)**: Dismisses "None of this... concrete point," accuses gunneratttt of bloviating.

The portion is meta-focused: gunneratttt clarifies "blind follower"; HAtp evades by demanding unrelated attacks.

#### Dynamics

The dynamic remains probing vs. evasive, but intensifies on rhetoric—gunneratttt recaps/recaps (e.g., thread summary, 3:33 PM) to highlight HAtp's patterns, while HAtp dismisses as "esoteric" (3:02 PM) and "pointless" (3:22 PM), avoiding direct rebuttal. HAtp's rapid responses suggest frustration, but gunneratttt stays composed, using HAtp's poasts as evidence (e.g., "irony," 3:33 PM). No concessions; ends with HAtp's blanket dismissal—typical xo stalemate where one poaster (HAtp) disengages rawly.

#### Themes

- **Engagement vs. Dismissal**: Core—gunneratttt pushes discussion (defines terms, recaps); HAtp evades as "pointless" (3:22 PM, 3:35 PM).

- **Fandom/Optics**: Gunneratttt critiques "losers" hurting movements (3:15 PM); HAtp defends as merit-based ( "attack... views," 3:22 PM).

- **Rhetoric/Meta-Poasting**: Debate on poasting—HAtp accuses vagueness ("bloviating," 3:35 PM); gunneratttt calls out nonresponse/irony.

- **xo Feuds**: Raw dismissals/slurs amid "blackpills" on movements' appeal.

#### Rhetorical Strategies

- **Recap/Repetition**: Gunneratttt summarizes thread (3:33 PM) and reiterates ( "irony... evasion," 3:33 PM) for clarity.

- **Deflection/Dismissal**: HAtp shifts to attacks ("attack... views," 3:22 PM) and blanket dismisses ("None of this... point," 3:35 PM).

- **Personalization**: Gunneratttt uses HAtp's behavior as evidence ( "your evasion," 3:33 PM); HAtp personalizes via "bloviating" (3:35 PM).

- **Clarification**: Gunneratttt explains ( "completely irrelevant... following," 3:33 PM).

- **No CR/Slurs**: Straight; some mockery (HAtp's "esoteric," 3:02 PM).

#### Assessment: Is HAtp's Last Post Reasonable?

HAtp's dismissal ("None of this is a real question worth answering! Meaningless platitudes! For the love of God, make a concrete point my guy," 3:35 PM) is **not reasonable**—it's evasive, not a legitimate critique. Gunneratttt is **clear and concrete**, not bloviating: his poasts are focused (defines "blind follower" with examples like flip-flops/referendums, 3:15 PM; recaps thread logically, 3:33 PM) and directly respond to HAtp's claims (e.g., "you started... blind idiots," 3:15 PM). No platitudes—specific ( "inability to discuss... without making it a referendum," 3:15 PM) and tied to HAtp's behavior ("your evasion exemplifies," 3:33 PM). HAtp evades good faith: instead of rebutting (e.g., "Your definition of blind follower is wrong because..."), he blanket-dismisses and repeats demands ("attack... views," 3:22 PM). This bad-faith evasion shows frustration over engagement, not genuine incomprehension—HAtp could clarify but chooses dismissal. Fairly: Gunner's persistence may feel "bloviating" to some, but his poasts are concise (2-4 sentences) and on-point; HAtp's failure is evasive, prioritizing ideology over discourse.

No favoritism: Gunner clear/responsive; HAtp evasive/dismissive. TITCR for evasion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517259)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 3:54 PM
Author: Historical American

Grok is for lonely women who are seeking consensus and affirmation. It's literally the most attention seeking BPD behavior. Oh, what if a robot agreed with me! The sycophancy is so bad they periodically have to turn it down. Hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517272)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: nude gunner (gunneratttt)

i specifically instructed it not to show favoritism. you're just emotional because your attempts to deflect based on lack of clarity, circular reasoning, etc. have no merit. because you're not interested in engaging, you just want to rant about fuentes, who you are in love with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517297)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: Historical American

similarly one could say you just hate him and are lashing out irrationally. and I think human beings are a much better judge of this than some sycophant robot. too bad no one besides you and me will EVER read any of this...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517309)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: nude gunner (gunneratttt)

that wouldn't be a rational since i emphasized that i agree with nick on many things and that his specific views have nothing to do with weather he has blind followers anyway.

repeatedly accusing me of just not liking him is just another deflection. and an irrelevant one because whether i like him or not doesn't matter. it's another sign of adulation too, like when a woman gets emotional when something she loves is criticized.

people have chimed in on your subthread wastelands including ones between us and unanimously the verdict has been you are ADHD ranting and incapable of comprehending or engaging in clearly articulated discussions. but you're as dismissive of those opinions as you are of LLMs. if 20 intelligent poasters read this and came to the same conclusion as Grok regarding your level of engagement you'd still flatly disagree. the only person who could change your mind is nick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517365)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: Historical American

literally none of this is true.

Nick deals with stupid comments in the superchats all day. You just have to learn to ignore non-substative attacks. If this were a superchat I would skip it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517374)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Appetizing Orchid Gaming Laptop Space

The clips of him eviscerating his literally retarded zoomer viewers/donors are peak entertainment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516829)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:31 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

he hates his low IQ fans so much lmao

what makes him lose his mind is how many people don't get his show. "Do you even watch the show?" He covers every question you could possibly think of, and then people ask him shit he addressed months ago. You'd go insane too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516835)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Appetizing Orchid Gaming Laptop Space

The clip of him saying that the Jews are right and goyim are brain dead is the funniest shit I’ve seen since advanced darkness bit

I need to find it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516848)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Deep box office candlestick maker

I love that clip. When he crashes out.

"Every day I try and prove Richard Hanania wrong that the goyim are actually smart and capable and every day my own viewers prove me wrong."

Something like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49516873)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Norm McDonalds (דירה בתחתונים)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sbKGN1HXHlw

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ed9Jkjz6x9mD/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS8bd4p4yE0



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517285)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: thirsty spot elastic band

ctrl-f "attention"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811331&forum_id=2!#49517114)