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Is gerrymandering constitutional?

I mean obviously it must be, if it's always been done and ha...
at-the-ready property
  11/08/12
the courts by not stopping it? as long as they don't have...
swashbuckling shrine
  11/08/12
So it's just something that's not discussed at all in the Co...
at-the-ready property
  11/08/12
no it is discussed, but it's very hard to stop based on the ...
swashbuckling shrine
  11/08/12
so if VRA justifies it, why has it been working against shit...
at-the-ready property
  11/08/12
B/c the VRA requires districts of at least 50% minority popu...
judgmental aggressive orchestra pit
  11/08/12
Liberals got rid of at-large districts and determining the m...
judgmental aggressive orchestra pit
  11/08/12
Actually Article I Section 4 Clause 1 allows Congress to red...
sienna odious fat ankles telephone
  11/08/12
Sure but that doesn't change the fact that gerrymandering is...
judgmental aggressive orchestra pit
  11/08/12
Elaborate on this please (im a non-lawschool bro)
at-the-ready property
  11/08/12
"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for ...
judgmental aggressive orchestra pit
  11/08/12
wtf, did they really misspell "choosing"? that's p...
at-the-ready property
  11/08/12
"Liberals got rid of at-large districts" - what do...
at-the-ready property
  11/08/12
Jurisdiction-covering districts (so for Congress, statewide)...
free-loading aromatic coffee pot
  08/27/25
As is typical with con law and its bullshit, it is not revie...
snowy cruel-hearted black woman institution
  11/08/12
Districts don't draw themselves bro
bespoke arrogant stag film nibblets
  11/08/12
Congress needs to basically pass a law mandating that distri...
sienna odious fat ankles telephone
  11/08/12
Generated by Karl Rove's computer, yes
bespoke arrogant stag film nibblets
  11/08/12
cr. Congress was elected by these gerrymandered districts...
swashbuckling shrine
  11/08/12
Congressional term limits are of questionable constitutional...
sienna odious fat ankles telephone
  11/08/12
District borders should be geographically drawn and not used...
domesticated underhanded macaca
  11/08/12
agreed, although "geographically drawn" seems to b...
at-the-ready property
  11/08/12
this could be easily achieved with a computer algorithm that...
sienna odious fat ankles telephone
  11/08/12
hm. somehow i doubt congress would pass something which woul...
at-the-ready property
  11/08/12
This seem to be the cr way to do it: http://www.timesunio...
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  11/08/12
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  11/08/12
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  04/24/25
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  04/24/25
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  05/07/25
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  09/25/25
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  09/09/25
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  09/09/25
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  04/24/25
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  05/19/25
lol I forgot libs started this anti-gerrymandering campaign ...
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  07/29/25
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:38 PM
Author: at-the-ready property

I mean obviously it must be, if it's always been done and hasn't been challenged, but what specifically grants states the right to do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002135)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:39 PM
Author: swashbuckling shrine

the courts by not stopping it?

as long as they don't have some racially driven motivation it's usually upheld.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002142)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM
Author: at-the-ready property

So it's just something that's not discussed at all in the Constitution either way, and since it's not, then it must be allowed, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002162)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM
Author: swashbuckling shrine

no it is discussed, but it's very hard to stop based on the constitution or the Voting Rights Act. In fact, the VRA almost justifies gerrymandering because it's hard to tamper with majority minority districts. So a lot of Southern States have the justification to keep districts that are 90% black rather than a couple districts that are 45% black.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002186)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:47 PM
Author: at-the-ready property

so if VRA justifies it, why has it been working against shitlibs recently?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002210)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: judgmental aggressive orchestra pit

B/c the VRA requires districts of at least 50% minority population (some courts will say more). If you have 50% blacks in a district, you can be sure there will be a bunch of Hispanics and poor whites too, who similarly vote Democratic, and you end up with 80-90% Dem districts mandated by law.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002245)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM
Author: judgmental aggressive orchestra pit

Liberals got rid of at-large districts and determining the manner of representative elections is given to the state legislatures in art I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002153)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM
Author: sienna odious fat ankles telephone

Actually Article I Section 4 Clause 1 allows Congress to redistrict if it so pleases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002194)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:47 PM
Author: judgmental aggressive orchestra pit

Sure but that doesn't change the fact that gerrymandering isn't unconstitutional.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002205)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:49 PM
Author: at-the-ready property

Elaborate on this please (im a non-lawschool bro)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002221)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:54 PM
Author: judgmental aggressive orchestra pit

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing [sic] Senators."

Theoretically Congress could pass a law outlawing gerrymandering by some definition, but the default is that the states are allowed to do what they want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002269)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:58 PM
Author: at-the-ready property

wtf, did they really misspell "choosing"? that's pretty lulzy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002302)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 6:00 PM
Author: at-the-ready property

"Liberals got rid of at-large districts" - what does this mean? What are at-large districts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002313)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 1:04 AM
Author: free-loading aromatic coffee pot

Jurisdiction-covering districts (so for Congress, statewide), and the term is particularly used where (1) their are also subset districts and/or (2) the at-large district is multimember.

Congress eliminated these for itself (i.e., for federal House seats) ages ago -- like pre-Civil War -- requiring contiguous single-member districts that collectively cover the entire state; scotus required those districts (and all districts, not just congressional, where the body to which the candidates are being elected acts on a collective voting basis (basically: legislative districts, but not judicial or executive ones)) to be equipopulous, although, fun fact, the standard for equal population is actually *way* more demanding for federal House districts than it is for any other district.

Most of the modern action on at-large districts has been in the context of city/county council seats, where they were once popular, but the VRA has made having them very difficult.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#49215659)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:43 PM
Author: snowy cruel-hearted black woman institution

As is typical with con law and its bullshit, it is not reviewable unless it is too bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002175)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:39 PM
Author: bespoke arrogant stag film nibblets

Districts don't draw themselves bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002138)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:40 PM
Author: sienna odious fat ankles telephone

Congress needs to basically pass a law mandating that districts be computer-generated ... but LOL @ Congress passing such a law



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002150)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM
Author: bespoke arrogant stag film nibblets

Generated by Karl Rove's computer, yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002156)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM
Author: swashbuckling shrine

cr.

Congress was elected by these gerrymandered districts, they have no incentive to stop this. just like they will never support term limits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002192)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:46 PM
Author: sienna odious fat ankles telephone

Congressional term limits are of questionable constitutionality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002197)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:48 PM
Author: domesticated underhanded macaca

District borders should be geographically drawn and not used wildly as random political tools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002218)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:50 PM
Author: at-the-ready property

agreed, although "geographically drawn" seems to be very subjective as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002231)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: sienna odious fat ankles telephone

this could be easily achieved with a computer algorithm that tries to minimize a measure called 'distortion.' This is a mathematically well-studied problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002247)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 7:53 PM
Author: at-the-ready property

hm. somehow i doubt congress would pass something which would require doing something via a computer algorithm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002982)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:56 PM
Author: at-the-ready property

This seem to be the cr way to do it:

http://www.timesunion.com/opinion/article/Gerrymandering-Not-in-Iowa-1336319.php

Why cant more states do it like Iowa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22002286)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 8:30 PM
Author: at-the-ready property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#22003267)



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Date: April 24th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother

cumskins love it. its their only way to "counter" NYUUG blowing their assholes out daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#48877945)



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Date: April 24th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother

"bad things that happen in the anglosphere DONT COUNT!" i live in a NIGGER-FREE NEIGHBORHOOD!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#48877953)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother

another fucktarded cumskin caught gerrymandering, after getting assraped by NYUUG LOLLERCAUST:

Date: May 7th, 2025 8:40 PM

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http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2479633&forum_id=2#48912251

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#48912268)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother

Date: January 21st, 2024 9:18 PM

Author: 202-225-3965

do you understand XO consists of more than one person? holy fuck you're dumb

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5479324&forum_id=2#47315375

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#48912306)



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Date: September 9th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: blue narrow-minded masturbator pervert

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Date: May 9th, 2025 12:12 AM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother

he uses this same trick all the time. he is constantly trying to point out "contradictions" in peoples opinions then he will suddenly start saying "xo says this" "cumskins say that" while cherry picking opinions from a pool of the entirety of xo poasters. its lulzy. like sorry nyuug, are you forgetting that this entire board hates you and there are 1000 diff opinions floating around from the past 15 years and varying things people say about you? obviously it isn't all going to be consistent.

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#48916044)



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Date: September 9th, 2025 9:59 PM
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Date: September 9th, 2025 9:58 PM
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Date: May 19th, 2025 4:13 AM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother

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Date: September 9th, 2025 9:59 PM
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Date: May 25th, 2025 11:06 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother



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Date: September 9th, 2025 9:59 PM
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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother



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Date: September 9th, 2025 9:59 PM
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother

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Date: September 9th, 2025 9:59 PM
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Date: August 6th, 2025 9:41 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother



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Date: August 7th, 2025 10:19 PM
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:41 PM
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Date: September 9th, 2025 10:00 PM
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:50 PM
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Date: September 9th, 2025 10:00 PM
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Date: September 9th, 2025 9:58 PM
Author: blue narrow-minded masturbator pervert

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Date: September 25th, 2025 10:08 PM
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Date: September 9th, 2025 7:14 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother

lol cumskins now pretending they dont gerrymander:

Date: September 9th, 2025 7:09 PM

Author: Diamond Dallas Trump

gerrymander?

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5771451&forum_id=2#49248569

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#49248588)



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Date: September 9th, 2025 9:58 PM
Author: blue narrow-minded masturbator pervert

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Date: April 24th, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: brass useless hairy legs

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#48877946)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Mustard office mexican

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#48943640)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: diverse stead

lol I forgot libs started this anti-gerrymandering campaign as soon as they won in 2012 because they thought they deserved the House too. Almost worked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#49141615)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: rough-skinned racy station mother

you mean fucktarded cumskins who gerrymander their way out of every nyuug rapage, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2!#49141619)



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Date: September 9th, 2025 10:00 PM
Author: blue narrow-minded masturbator pervert

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Date: September 9th, 2025 10:02 PM
Author: autistic navy forum

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