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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
floppy sick coldplay fan immigrant
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Comical abnormal tanning salon pervert
  06/15/18
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Lavender learning disabled roommate
  06/15/18
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Lavender learning disabled roommate
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Arousing Puppy
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
Vigorous organic girlfriend
  10/06/21
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Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  02/12/22
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boner police?s buttondick
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
histrionic hall idiot
  06/15/18
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Lavender learning disabled roommate
  06/15/18
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yellow multi-colored institution goyim
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
histrionic hall idiot
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
frum cocky faggotry
  06/15/18
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Arrogant exhilarant principal's office
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Lavender learning disabled roommate
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Magical Dopamine Cruise Ship
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
dashing topaz parlour
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
razzmatazz sadistic casino turdskin
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Arousing Puppy
  06/15/18
sounds 180
histrionic hall idiot
  06/15/18
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Arrogant exhilarant principal's office
  06/15/18
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yellow multi-colored institution goyim
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
Disgusting Flushed Box Office Mental Disorder
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Lavender learning disabled roommate
  06/15/18
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Comical abnormal tanning salon pervert
  06/15/18
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yellow multi-colored institution goyim
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
yellow multi-colored institution goyim
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razzmatazz sadistic casino turdskin
  06/15/18
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Contagious hyperventilating plaza regret
  06/15/18
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yellow multi-colored institution goyim
  02/15/21
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Contagious hyperventilating plaza regret
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  10/06/21
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Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
diverse lay rigpig
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
maroon center
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
maroon center
  06/15/18
Explain
Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  06/15/18
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Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  06/16/18
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Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  09/04/18
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Contagious hyperventilating plaza regret
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
judgmental giraffe keepsake machete
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
Marvelous fiercely-loyal friendly grandma
  06/15/18
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Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  02/12/21
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canary cuck menage
  02/12/21
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yellow multi-colored institution goyim
  02/15/21
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Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Rough-skinned base athletic conference
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Iridescent Aromatic Mexican Church
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
slimy 180 native
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
slimy 180 native
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Lake Stubborn Place Of Business
  02/12/21
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canary cuck menage
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Rough-skinned base athletic conference
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Lake Stubborn Place Of Business
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
hairraiser puce home
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Lake Stubborn Place Of Business
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
hairraiser puce home
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Iridescent Aromatic Mexican Church
  02/12/21
lol no
disrespectful whorehouse
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
Laughsome twisted wagecucks nursing home
  02/15/21
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Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  06/29/21
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Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  10/06/21
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Charismatic shitlib
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
aphrodisiac grizzly den
  10/06/21
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Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: floppy sick coldplay fan immigrant

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Comical abnormal tanning salon pervert

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Lavender learning disabled roommate



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Lavender learning disabled roommate



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Arousing Puppy

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Vigorous organic girlfriend

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: boner police?s buttondick ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: histrionic hall idiot

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Lavender learning disabled roommate



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: yellow multi-colored institution goyim



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: histrionic hall idiot

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: frum cocky faggotry

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Arrogant exhilarant principal's office



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Lavender learning disabled roommate

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Magical Dopamine Cruise Ship

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: dashing topaz parlour

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: razzmatazz sadistic casino turdskin

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Arousing Puppy

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: histrionic hall idiot

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Arrogant exhilarant principal's office



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: yellow multi-colored institution goyim



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Disgusting Flushed Box Office Mental Disorder

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Lavender learning disabled roommate



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Comical abnormal tanning salon pervert



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: yellow multi-colored institution goyim



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: yellow multi-colored institution goyim

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: razzmatazz sadistic casino turdskin



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Contagious hyperventilating plaza regret



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: yellow multi-colored institution goyim



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Contagious hyperventilating plaza regret



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: diverse lay rigpig

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: maroon center

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: maroon center

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Contagious hyperventilating plaza regret



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: judgmental giraffe keepsake machete

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Marvelous fiercely-loyal friendly grandma

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933386)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: canary cuck menage



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: yellow multi-colored institution goyim



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Rough-skinned base athletic conference

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Iridescent Aromatic Mexican Church

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: slimy 180 native

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: slimy 180 native

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Lake Stubborn Place Of Business

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: canary cuck menage



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Rough-skinned base athletic conference

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Lake Stubborn Place Of Business

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: hairraiser puce home

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Lake Stubborn Place Of Business

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: hairraiser puce home

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Iridescent Aromatic Mexican Church

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: disrespectful whorehouse

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Laughsome twisted wagecucks nursing home

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Charismatic shitlib



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: aphrodisiac grizzly den

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: Jet-lagged pungent party of the first part senate



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