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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
blathering halford resort
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Geriatric Vengeful Keepsake Machete Range
  06/15/18
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Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter
  06/15/18
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Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
floppy really tough guy kitchen
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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  10/06/21
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razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  02/12/22
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Echoes of Wisdom
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
Idiotic lime lay
  06/15/18
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Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter
  06/15/18
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Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Idiotic lime lay
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
duck-like yarmulke
  06/15/18
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Provocative Alcoholic Corner
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
cream bateful whorehouse
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Exhilarant gay wizard national security agency
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Aphrodisiac Dilemma
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
floppy really tough guy kitchen
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Idiotic lime lay
  06/15/18
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Provocative Alcoholic Corner
  06/15/18
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Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker
  06/15/18
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Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter
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Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker
  02/15/21
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lemon laughsome dragon meetinghouse
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
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  10/06/21
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razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
silver base
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Arrogant hunting ground hall
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Arrogant hunting ground hall
  06/15/18
Explain
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  06/15/18
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razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  09/04/18
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lemon laughsome dragon meetinghouse
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
beady-eyed drunken senate tattoo
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
stimulating lodge
  06/15/18
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razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  02/12/21
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Brilliant mental disorder market
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Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker
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razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
transparent weed whacker location
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Carnelian Crotch Trailer Park
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
glassy gaming laptop
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
glassy gaming laptop
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Drab Roommate Newt
  02/12/21
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Brilliant mental disorder market
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
transparent weed whacker location
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Drab Roommate Newt
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
talented lilac lettuce
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Drab Roommate Newt
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
talented lilac lettuce
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Carnelian Crotch Trailer Park
  02/12/21
lol no
Anal place of business
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
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  02/15/21
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  06/29/21
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Crimson black woman
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: blathering halford resort

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Geriatric Vengeful Keepsake Machete Range

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: floppy really tough guy kitchen

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Mad Cow Disease

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Echoes of Wisdom ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Idiotic lime lay

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Idiotic lime lay

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: duck-like yarmulke

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Provocative Alcoholic Corner



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: cream bateful whorehouse

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Exhilarant gay wizard national security agency

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Dilemma

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: floppy really tough guy kitchen

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Idiotic lime lay

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Provocative Alcoholic Corner



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: angry appetizing nowag

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Thirsty greedy orchestra pit faggot firefighter



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Geriatric Vengeful Keepsake Machete Range



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Dilemma



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: lemon laughsome dragon meetinghouse



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: lemon laughsome dragon meetinghouse



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: silver base

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Arrogant hunting ground hall

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Arrogant hunting ground hall

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: lemon laughsome dragon meetinghouse



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: beady-eyed drunken senate tattoo

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: stimulating lodge

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Brilliant mental disorder market



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Effete Massive Gas Station Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41949789)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: transparent weed whacker location

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Carnelian Crotch Trailer Park

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: glassy gaming laptop

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: glassy gaming laptop

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Drab Roommate Newt

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Brilliant mental disorder market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41933950)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: transparent weed whacker location

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Drab Roommate Newt

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: talented lilac lettuce

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Drab Roommate Newt

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: talented lilac lettuce

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Carnelian Crotch Trailer Park

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Anal place of business

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Violent incel

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Crimson black woman



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: zombie-like chrome indirect expression

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2!#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: razzmatazz startling psychic blood rage



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