🚨🚨🚨Opening arguments in Donna Adelson/shortporch murder trial today🚨
| Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | fuchsia dashing theater | 08/22/25 | | razzmatazz knife | 08/22/25 | | Autistic Startling Sweet Tailpipe Chapel | 08/22/25 | | razzmatazz knife | 08/22/25 | | Stirring balding fortuitous meteor | 08/22/25 | | ocher dragon native | 08/22/25 | | house-broken point | 08/22/25 | | vivacious copper ape international law enforcement agency | 08/22/25 | | house-broken point | 08/22/25 | | vivacious copper ape international law enforcement agency | 08/22/25 | | Stirring balding fortuitous meteor | 08/22/25 | | Nerdy Digger | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | lfo | 08/26/25 | | dinner | 08/26/25 | | vivacious copper ape international law enforcement agency | 08/22/25 | | topaz abode | 08/22/25 | | vivacious copper ape international law enforcement agency | 08/22/25 | | topaz abode | 08/22/25 | | vivacious copper ape international law enforcement agency | 08/22/25 | | Purple parlour trump supporter | 08/22/25 | | Ass Sunstein | 08/25/25 | | the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) | 08/24/25 | | UN peacekeeper | 08/25/25 | | Judas Jones | 08/25/25 | | topaz abode | 08/22/25 | | fuchsia dashing theater | 08/22/25 | | Ebony Sinister Stage Private Investor | 08/22/25 | | Autistic Startling Sweet Tailpipe Chapel | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong | 08/23/25 | | CapTTTainFalcon | 08/25/25 | | i gave my cousin head | 08/25/25 | | Nerdy Digger | 08/26/25 | | dinner | 08/26/25 | | UN peacekeeper | 08/26/25 | | mint locus | 08/22/25 | | contagious step-uncle's house | 08/22/25 | | Geriatric cheese-eating whorehouse mexican | 08/22/25 | | fuchsia dashing theater | 08/22/25 | | Violent Prole Codepig | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | Ebony Sinister Stage Private Investor | 08/22/25 | | """'"'"""'' | 08/24/25 | | Autistic Startling Sweet Tailpipe Chapel | 08/22/25 | | fuchsia dashing theater | 08/22/25 | | Autistic Startling Sweet Tailpipe Chapel | 08/22/25 | | kevin eubanks and the tonight show band | 08/25/25 | | Tantric out-of-control stag film clown | 08/22/25 | | .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; | 08/25/25 | | cowardly mischievous digit ratio | 08/22/25 | | fluffy snowy hissy fit | 08/22/25 | | Autistic Startling Sweet Tailpipe Chapel | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | Autistic Startling Sweet Tailpipe Chapel | 08/22/25 | | fluffy snowy hissy fit | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | Tantric out-of-control stag film clown | 08/22/25 | | Tantric out-of-control stag film clown | 08/22/25 | | JunkoEnoshima | 08/23/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/23/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/23/25 | | An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school | 08/25/25 | | Violent Prole Codepig | 08/22/25 | | Autistic Startling Sweet Tailpipe Chapel | 08/22/25 | | Tantric out-of-control stag film clown | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | Violent Prole Codepig | 08/22/25 | | Autistic Startling Sweet Tailpipe Chapel | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; | 08/25/25 | | mint locus | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | fluffy snowy hissy fit | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret | 08/22/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/23/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/24/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/24/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/24/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | dont run libs the crystal wardens see you | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | .,.,.:,,.,:.,:,,:,.::,:.:.,.,:.,:,,.:.,.,:.::, | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | lfo | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | lfo | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | lfo | 08/25/25 | | lfo | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | lfo | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | lfo | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | lfo | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/25/25 | | .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/26/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/27/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/25/25 | | .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/26/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/26/25 | | JunkoEnoshima | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | dont run libs the crystal wardens see you | 08/26/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | lfo | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/25/25 | | lfo | 08/25/25 | | An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/25/25 | | .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::..,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,. | 08/25/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) | 08/25/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/25/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/25/25 | | An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/25/25 | | When I grow up I want to be a pumo | 08/25/25 | | Todd Snyder | 08/26/25 | | When I grow up I want to be a pumo | 08/27/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | sarc a schtick | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | richard clock | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/26/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/26/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/26/25 | | When I grow up I want to be a pumo | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | kevin eubanks and the tonight show band | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | kevin eubanks and the tonight show band | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/28/25 | | kevin eubanks and the tonight show band | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | You've been an absolute disaster | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | richard clock | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | lfo | 08/26/25 | | lfo | 08/26/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/26/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/26/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/26/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | lfo | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | lfo | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | lfo | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | lfo | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/26/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | JunkoEnoshima | 08/27/25 | | An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school | 08/27/25 | | .,.,.,,.,,..,,,.,.,...,.,,.,. | 08/27/25 | | An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school | 08/27/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/27/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/27/25 | | An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school | 08/27/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | richard clock | 08/27/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/27/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/28/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/28/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/27/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/27/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/27/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/27/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/27/25 | | .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. | 08/27/25 | | tats | 08/27/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/27/25 | | tats | 08/27/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | Kenneth Play | 08/27/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/27/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | ..;.;:.;.;..:..;,;,;. | 08/28/25 | | richard clock | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | lfo | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | lfo | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | Gay Grandpa | 08/28/25 | | kevin eubanks and the tonight show band | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | lfo | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | lfo | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | ,.,.,.,,,.,,.,..,.,.,.,.,,. | 08/28/25 | | lfo | 08/28/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | ..;.;:.;.;..:..;,;,;. | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | sarc a schtick | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | ..;.;:.;.;..:..;,;,;. | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | When I grow up I want to be a pumo | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., | 08/28/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle | 08/29/25 | | Nazca Redlines | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | Nazca Redlines | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | Nazca Redlines | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | ..;.;:.;.;..:..;,;,;. | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/28/25 | | Nazca Redlines | 08/28/25 | | .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,... | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | ,.,.,.,,,.,,.,..,.,.,.,.,,. | 08/29/25 | | JunkoEnoshima | 08/28/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/28/25 | | Die Hard 2: Die Harder | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | Judas Jones | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/29/25 | | lfo | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | lfo | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | lfo | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | lfo | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | lfo | 08/29/25 | | .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | kevin eubanks and the tonight show band | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/29/25 | | richard clock | 08/29/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/29/25 | | richard clock | 08/29/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/29/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | Gay Grandpa | 08/29/25 | | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | 08/29/25 | | Kansas City Royals | 08/29/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/29/25 | | A Real Life Male Model | 08/29/25 |
Poast new message in this thread
Date: August 22nd, 2025 8:37 AM Author: Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQHxtbG9nlw
I think it starts at 9am. This was the first link I could find. If anyone finds one with better audio quality, please poast it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49203470) |
Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:28 AM Author: house-broken point
* opening statements
Do you even law?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49203658) |
Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:43 AM Author: vivacious copper ape international law enforcement agency
lol is this her husband? why is he dressed like he's about to board a Viking cruise liner to the Bahamas
https://ibb.co/RkW0fxSj
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49203695) |
Date: August 22nd, 2025 11:49 AM Author: Autistic Startling Sweet Tailpipe Chapel
Ljl at defense opening remarks. Yes it's proven that Charlie hired Katie to hire Sigfredo and the other guy to kill Danny. But there's no evidence Donna was involved, only speculation!
Lmao she is done here if the state can bring concrete evidence.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49203862) |
 |
Date: August 22nd, 2025 1:35 PM Author: Saffron floppy school cafeteria regret
As I recall, there was testimony during Charlie's trial to the effect that Harvey knew nothing about the plot and was very upset when he heard about it. On the other hand, I think the circumstantial evidence against Wendi is very strong. As I recall, there were a bunch of calls between her and Charlie right before the murder happened. On the morning of the murder, she drove past shortporch's house even though it was a major detour on her route. And when she saw crime scene tape at the house, she didn't stop to see if her kids were okay. And there was testimony from one of the hitmen that Charlie insisted that they drive a certain model and color of car, which was the same as Wendi's boyfriend was driving at the time. It's not airtight, but people have been convicted on far weaker evidence than this. My guess is that unless they can find new evidence that can definitely prove that Wendi is involved, they won't arrest Wendi until they either get Donna or Charlie to roll over (or give up on trying). There was a rumor that the DA's office offered Donna a plea deal for time served if she would give up Wendi, but Donna refused. The DA's office denies this, so who knows? But maybe they can get one of them to flip if they offer the possibility of parole in the future.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49204336) |
 |
Date: August 23rd, 2025 5:20 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
My guess is they only do that if they need leverage to convince some other family member to testify against Wendy. Otherwise it seems like having his entire family go to prison for life is already punishment enough. And I'm not sure they would have a great case for obstruction anyway. If he claimed that he thought she was just going on vacation and she never told him that she was planning to flee to avoid prosecution, it would be hard for the DA to prove otherwise.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49207435) |
 |
Date: August 23rd, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
If you didn't see my comment at the bottom of the thread, on Friday, one of the hitmen testified that Katie told them that the hit had to happen on a certain date, because shortporch was about to leave town. His testimony was triple hearsay, so I don't know if it would be admissible against Wendi. But if what he said is true, the state could call Katie to testify to this, and that would presumably fall under a hearsay exception. If Katie corroborates this testimony, my guess is Wendi is fucked even if her other family members don't turn on her. It's going to be interesting to see what happens.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49207470) |
Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:28 PM Author: mint locus
did you catch this piece of evidence, VERY DAMNING:
https://imgur.com/a/YPWX2K5
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49204697) |
 |
Date: August 24th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
I saw that. It's going to be fascinating to see if they try to use any of this as evidence against her at trial.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49209234) |
 |
Date: August 29th, 2025 2:21 PM
Author: .,.,.:,,.,:.,:,,:,.::,:.:.,.,:.,:,,.:.,.,:.::,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49222169) |
 |
Date: August 25th, 2025 11:16 AM Author: Kansas City Royals (Slop God)
ACERBIC SENSE OF HUMOR
she made a WISECRACK that sent Jeff around the bend. He went off on her in a hotel room and she began crying. 'She was fragile.'
'This is a girl so hawt you would throw yourself in front of a bus for.'
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49211015) |
 |
Date: August 25th, 2025 8:17 PM Author: Kansas City Royals (Slop God)
My gut feeling is that the State is sympathetic towards Wendi and isn't going to charge her. She's been especially co-operative. Despite what the pumo says there isn't a lot of evidence against her. In DeSantis' Florida they probably don't want to be seen taking kids away from their mom.
Charlie they had him red handed because he was the connect to Katie and he gave her money. He was toast. Donna is the last domino to follow because she's unhinged and is all over the wiretap and the emails make her look nuts.
Wendi I think she's getting away clean. Not enough evidence on her. Charlie and Donna were tight knit. Easy to believe that they plotted this without Wendi and Harvey's knowledge.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212325) |
 |
Date: August 25th, 2025 10:32 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Have you even been watching the fucking trial? On Friday, the hitman testified that Wendi told Katie what day the hit had to happen. Combine that with the (already very damning) circumstantial evidence against Wendi, and she is fucked. Granted, the testimony on Friday was triple hearsay. It's possible something got lost in that game of telephone. But if Katie will testify that Wendi was part of the conspiracy, I think that is plenty of evidence to convict. Especially after today when the prosecution showed that photo of Wendi and Katie at the beach together. I believe Wendi had always denied knowing Katie until today, but I won't swear to that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212529) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 4:12 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
See also, Donna’s clumsy attempts from jail to undermine Katie’s credibility as a witness. Katie isn’t putting Donna in any more jeopardy than she already faces just via the wiretaps. Moron Donna was trying to protect Wendi. That said I still think there’s a better than 50% chance the state doesn’t charge her. They know they only need to hit one horny Jewish grandpa on the jury who thinks just like 90% of the poasters in this thread about Wendi and her massive, epic cans, and they’re fucked.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214087) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 4:23 PM Author: Kansas City Royals (Slop God)
Also Rivera referenced hearing things about 'the dentist' and 'the lady' but admits he never met either of them. Correct me if I'm wrong but Katie never testified about the hit coming from Wendi and they knew each other personally.
We're right back where we started where it would require someone flipping. Jeff Lacasse saying Wendi said Charlie was looking into a hitman is not going to convict. We all know Charlie hired Katie and paid her directly. That's indisputable.
And we know Donna was MAF about relocation and the divorce proceedings and she and Charlie were in cahoots. Even so there's no direct evidence and it's all circumstantial and there's still a 20% chance Donna is acquitted just because they don't have a smoking gun and there's some small chance the jury just doesn't see her fingerprints on any of this.
Do I believe Wendi knew about the hit on Danny? Yes. Did she orchestrate it soup to nuts? Probably not. Did she provide her brother with information necessary to pull this off? Almost certainly. But we're still miles away from a guilty conviction for Wendi.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214108) |
Date: August 25th, 2025 7:12 PM Author: Kansas City Royals (Slop God)
Defense is in shambles. State has laid out so much evidence here. Wendi hated Tallahassee, was desperate for relocation. Donna was livid that the proceedings weren't going their way. Donna despised Danny, wanted the grandkids, sent a million emails expressing relocation was her red line, even suggested Wendi convert the kids to Catholicism just to piss Danny off. And then the family actually hired real life gang members to drive to Tallahassee and smoke him. Wendi in the photo with Katie Magbanua is damning. She actually knew the chick who hired Sigfredo and Rivera.
Meanwhile the defense be like: Donna was a good mom who was always there for her kids. No smoking gun, Donna never emailed anyone in writing that she wanted to harm Danny.
Donna is so crazy she makes Wendi look sympathetic. Ljl this is 80/20 convict.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212152) |
 |
Date: August 25th, 2025 7:44 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
I got busy at work and am only watching the recording now. Did the oldest Adelson kid testify against Charlie at his trial? To me, that was some of the most damning testimony so far. He basically came out and said that his mom is a control freak who is crazy enough to plan something like this. He also said she was acting incredibly shady after the murder (refusing to talk about it and telling him not to talk to the police). And he looked so heartbroken during his testimony. It was clear that it killed him to testify against his own mother, but he believes she is guilty and thought he had to do it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212214) |
 |
Date: August 25th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212239) |
Date: August 25th, 2025 8:12 PM Author: Kenneth Play
Q: At the time of Dan Markel's murder was the defendant, your mother, very angry at Dan Markel?
A: Before he died?
Q: Yes ma'am
A: Yes
Q: And you hated him too right?
A: At certain points I was very frustrated with him
Q: Did you refer to him as an STD?
A: I don't remember saying that
Q: Tab 5
[15 seconds pass]
A: It looks like I made that analogy
Q: "Danny is an STD. One wrong mistake marrying him and this will never go away" is that what you said?
A: I did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaStBrz4PeA
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212303) |
 |
Date: August 25th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::..,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,.
she looks completely different
also, why doesn't she plead the 5th
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212330) |
 |
Date: August 25th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
I know they can't use this testimony against her if they charge her in the future, but it seemed obvious to me that she was full of shit. It seemed kind of remarkable that she could remember every detail of her conversation with Charlie on the day of the murder, but she had absolutely zero recollection of ever saying anything negative about shortporch during their divorce.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212538) |
Date: August 25th, 2025 9:41 PM Author: Kansas City Royals (Slop God)
I genuinely hope that defense in closing reminds the jury of their doomed opening remarks.
"Just to be clear, we told you all in the beginning that Danny Markel was killed in a murder for hire plot that involved Charlie Adelson, Katherine Magbanua, Sigfredo, and Rivera. That all actually happened. You even saw a picture of Wendi with Katie. You heard testimony from Robert that his mom was totally unphased by Danny's death and never broached the subject.
Anyway what's important to remember is that Donna was a good mom who loved her kids and there's no smoking gun. She did not literally tell anyone that she was going to kill Danny. OK. So therefore she didn't do it."
The jury would have to be extremely dense at this point to not take into account all the circumstantial evidence here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212449) |
Date: August 26th, 2025 7:25 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
MFEs: 2 q's from a lawyer who knows almost nothing about the case bc i havent followed it:
1) the brother who testified yesterday. a media article said he's estranged w the mom and never testified before in these proceedings. why didnt he testify in the previous trial?
2) what does it mean that wendi testified under immunity? does that mean that they would have forced her to testify either way and made her invoke the 5th? did she testify at previous trials and invoke? why would she take an immunity offer -- did she WANT to rat out her mother? and why would someone take immunity to rat out their mom without getting an actual deal? i dont see what she gains, and "looking cooperative" to the DA doesnt like aseem good enough reason to rat out your mom.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49212954) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 8:57 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
ty.
did she agree to qualified immunity, or is this something the DA can just grant her whether she wants it or not?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49213056) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
*prepares series of closing argument powerpoints on "beyond a reasonable doubt"*
https://www.alamy.com/defense-counsel-mark-omara-holds-up-a-chart-during-closing-arguments-in-the-trial-of-george-zimmerman-at-the-seminole-county-criminal-justice-center-in-sanford-fla-friday-july-12-2013-zimmerman-is-charged-in-the-2012-shooting-death-of-unarmed-teenager-trayvon-martin-ap-photoorlando-sentinel-joe-burbank-pool-image536790247.html
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49213462) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
love O'Mara, that slide, and everything he does.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49213531) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
Wonder if there was any plea offer.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49213535) |
Date: August 26th, 2025 12:04 PM Author: Kansas City Royals (Slop God)
JEFF TESTIFIES WENDI KNEW OF MURDER PLOT
https://youtu.be/SaCYcSOkn60
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49213536) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
amazing that she was sleeping with him and setting him for murder charges.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49213562) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
i've heard that he could be generous but also a bit of a prick. is that true?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214117) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
if youre an FSU retard u need to work for an LOR
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214638) |
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
agreed that murder is heinous.
but all studies of negotiation show that if you are a relentless prick then you optimize the odds of the best outcome and optimize the odds of complete disaster too.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216165) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 2:01 AM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49218416) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214708) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
>who weaponized devout Judaism on everyone around him.
havent been following this case. explain.
i saw on wiki he's ortho. was wendi not? why would an ortho marry a non-ortho jewess?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214139) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 4:34 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
was he really orthodox, or fake orthodox like the kushners? a legit MO (modern ortho) type in law school like a ben shapiro would never marry a girl who isnt orthodox herself.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214145) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
inconclusive. she's dressed inappropriate for an orthodox girl, but it's not clear what observance level he is based on that pic (MO vs fake ortho).
and dayam she looks good for having a baby 8 days ago.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214223) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 9:41 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
go on...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49215045) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 9:44 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
rofl @ this:
A friend of Markel told 20/20 that the couple’s parents agreed to split the cost of the Dan/Wendi Jewish wedding (2006). Dan wanted a kosher caterer and he was sure that Wendi’s parents, who were hiring the caterer, would honor his request. His friend said that Dan was shocked, on his wedding day, that the food wasn’t kosher. It was a “omen”, the friend said, of bad things to come.
https://www.jewishtampa.com/jews-in-the-news/dan-markel
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49215064) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 11:04 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49215357) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 5:13 PM Author: lfo
?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/fsu-law-professors-boyfriend-claims-brother-talked-killing/story?id=42065242“She [Wendi Adelson] told me that Charlie had looked into having Danny killed in the summer of 2013,” Lacasse told an investigator during a 2015 videotaped interview.
“She meant it, dead serious,” Lacasse continued. “I would joke around, saying I’d like to kill Danny Markel. ... That is different. She said it in a dead serious, chilling, uncomfortable way. ... In the moment, my stomach flipped. I was like, ‘Whoa.’”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214270) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
He also tried to testify that Wendi asked him if her boys would be old enough to remember it if something really horrible happened. It got thrown out as a discovery violation. Apparently the prosecution never shared that piece of information with the defense. But presumably they could use that testimony if/when they bring charges against Wendi.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214614) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
That seems unlikely. Before they tossed that testimony, they stopped the trial for about 10-15 minutes so that Georgia could try to verify that she shared this evidence with the defense. And when she couldn't find proof of this, the defense was willing to stipulate that the discovery violation was inadvertent. Also, if you are building a case against Wendi, why show what cards you are holding? That just gives her defense a chance to think about how they will explain it away.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214666) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
anything in the rules about her golden doing a cross or two during this trial?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214245) |
Date: August 26th, 2025 4:48 PM Author: Kansas City Royals (Slop God) Subject: Katie takes the stand
https://youtu.be/QFiFRWIbs-U
"Why did you lie when you took the stand in your own trial?"
Katie: "I was living a lie so long I didn't know how to accept the truth."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214203) |
 |
Date: August 26th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
That was a bit of a letdown. She didn't corroborate the hitman's testimony that Wendi told her when the hit had to happen. Wendi dodged a major bullet there. And the evidence she had to tie Donna to the plot was highly circumstantial at best. All she could say was that Charlie called his mom a lot when they were discussing the plot to whack shortporch. I suppose that they had to call her to the stand so that the jury understood the full plot, but there was nothing particularly new or interesting in her testimony.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49214634) |
Date: August 27th, 2025 1:34 AM Author: Kansas City Royals (Slop God)
TSINAH potentially vindicated. One analyst said there's no reason to have testimony like Jeff in this case if not to get more and more info on Wendi into the public record. That they're building the foundation to charge Wendi all throughout this trial.
On the other hand there's growing concern that Georgia isn't doing enough to tie this all to Donna. At present Donna has too many outs. It's time to wrap with the foundation witnesses and go for the smoking gun. They need a big win here. Luckily the defense is going nowhere fast.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49215688) |
Date: August 27th, 2025 7:25 AM
Author: .,.,.,,.,,..,,,.,.,...,.,,.,.
Why was Wendi never charged? Deal?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49215838) |
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 9:30 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
as i asked above, why would she testify in other trials without a deal? she's essentially cooperating in the hopes that the DA wont eventually charge her. why didnt her lawyers be more aggressive and tell the govt she's gonna stfu unless she gets a deal.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216049) |
Date: August 27th, 2025 9:09 AM Author: A Real Life Male Model
TRUE INSIDER HERE
State is exhausted and a bit shambolic, but managed / will manage to get several direct hits will result in quick guilty verdict:
1. Donna's emailing wendi "we are part of a team, we are a team". Lmao in a conspiracy case
2. Donna signing Katie's checks -- action in furtherance of conspiracy, literally CHECKED
3. Rob A's heartbreaking testimony - mom told me not to talk to FBI, when I already had mom responded "well you dont know anything anyway", that was last time I ever spoke to mom
4. Post bump Donna goes to conspirator Charlie
5. Donna flees to Nam due to guilty conscience
its over for donna.
Now on to wendi:
They need knowledge and participation in conspiracy and action in furtherance of conspiracy. They have knowledge through Jeff Lacasse saying she knew and told him. Action in furtherance? Hard. Rests critically on giving shortporch's travel schedule to killers. State will say Wendi HAD to be source of this info. Wendi's defense will say, she could have shared it innocently with mom or charlie.
That trial is a close one. Donna's done here
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49215990) |
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 9:44 AM Author: A Real Life Male Model
actions in furtherance Im not as convinced
- The killers have Dan's schedule / whereabouts. Origin is clearly Wendi, but its reasonably doubtful that she knew that in sharing it she was setting up a murder.
- LaCasse testifies about possibly being set-up, but he's the only witness to this and he's a jilted lover. Also, the killers using similar car (not even same car) falls apart. Is there any evidence killers asked specifically for this car from rental company? Doubt it
I think Wendi knew, but was mostly kept out of loop by Charlie/donna. I think its a tough case against her
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216082)
|
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 11:41 AM Author: A Real Life Male Model
agree. the matter FEELS unresolved until she gets targeted. whole thing is preamble
i think a good chance a tally jury convicts her, for extra legal reasons. donna tried to move jx, but I bet wendi actually gets to, because there is so much fucking relevant evidence of her calling tally a complete shit hole.
another factor, i suspect at play, may be the state's genuine sympathy for the boys. they cannot simply be moved to markel grandparents. boys are secular jews in texas, final years of high school. markels are extremely elderly observant jews in small town canada. Lmao at traumatizing the kids by yanking them from their lives and depositing in canada. and honestly i dont think markel grandparents are even capable of parenting teens. would love to see Rob A volunteer to take them, behind the scenes
state may honestly want to wait till youngest is 18. Id est he is like 15 now.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216417) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 2:25 AM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
I don't know. If the murderers had only made one trip to Tallahassee, there might be a reasonable doubt as to whether Wendi knew that she was participating in a conspiracy to commit murder. But the hitmen drove up to Tallahassee twice. Both times they knew exactly where shortporch was. There is testimony from Jeff Lacasse that Wendi made sure he was in town with no alibi before both the initial attempt and the actual murder. And when Wendi was interviewed by the police, she immediately suggested Lacasse as a possible suspect. And when you combine that with the fact that she drove out of her way to shortporch's house the morning of the murder and never bothered to check if her kids were okay, to me, it becomes incredibly hard to believe that she didn't actively participate.
Granted, the case would depend very heavily on Jeff Lacasse's testimony. If her defense could could undermine his credibility on cross, it could get dicey. But plenty of people have been convicted on far weaker evidence than this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49218457) |
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
>She pressed her then-boyfriend for his travel plans in and around the day of the actual murder (him leavinga night early might be one of the luckiest decisions ever)
explain this for someone who hasnt been following closely
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216090) |
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 10:08 AM Author: A Real Life Male Model
state and jeff's argument is that wendi coordinated that the killing happened when Jeff would be near Dan's house, done by someone in a similar car to Jeff.
jeff testifies that -- immed after a break up -- wendi strangely grilled him on his plans for upcoming murder date
then wendi in police interview day of murder, tells police maybe it was jeff
--
as someone who believes wendi is in fact guilty, i also think theres a lot of reasonable doubt in the above argument
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216137) |
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 9:55 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49217906) |
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 10:52 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"3. Rob A's heartbreaking testimony - mom told me not to talk to FBI, when I already had mom responded "well you dont know anything anyway", that was last time I ever spoke to mom"
lol.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216247) |
Date: August 27th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
rooting for Donna and Wendi on this one
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216041) |
Date: August 27th, 2025 10:28 AM Author: tats
In addition to his scholarship, he was a consultant for the defense in a federal prosecution in New Jersey involving rabbis accused of extortion by the FBI.[31]
Oh what a legal scholar!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216182) |
Date: August 27th, 2025 12:41 PM Author: A Real Life Male Model
Looking at theories of defense so far
1. Rivera - no theory of defense, pled guilty
2. Garcia - theory of defense: went to Tally to buy drugs, Dan probably died in weird drug deal unrelated to me, haha
3. Katie - theory of defense: Garcia and Charlie may have set up murder behind my back, they spoke once after all. Fact is, I knew nothing
4. Charlie - theory of defense: I was being extorted by Garcia, jealous over Katie. Pay him or he'd kill my sister's ex.
5. Donna - theory of defense: honestly hasnt been expressed yet. I suppose it is: Charlie did this but I had no fucking idea, Im clueless.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216571)
|
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 12:50 PM Author: A Real Life Male Model
ah ok tbf i cant listen to the female defense so skipped opening. was just going off their crosses, where they are basically doing nothing
when donna emails wendi "we are a team, charlie you dad and me are a team, now lets do this" etc, i guess she just closes with "a TEAM for the divorce; NOT A TEAM for the murder" lol
good luck with that donz
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216609) |
 |
Date: August 27th, 2025 12:55 PM Author: A Real Life Male Model
she was kicked off the bench for ethical violations lol
and i agree. theyve scored zero points. maybe half a point with donna shared the donnaharvey@gmail
i hope they have something to show with D wits. I imagine theyre billing at least 100-200k. They have had to sit through 12 months of depos and read thousands of pages of disco, but theyre not earning shit so far in the courtroom
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49216626)
|
Date: August 27th, 2025 5:46 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
How is the defense not calling out hearsay and leading every 5 seconds? This is the worst legal team under the sun. Witness just said 'Charlie supposedly said a joke to many people about buying Wendi a TV instead of a hitman'
Supposedly??? The defendant should be livid with her counsel
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49217422) |
Date: August 27th, 2025 7:26 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
https://youtu.be/XQMK-yw7130
Wendi admits to detectives that in the car ride to the police station, she wondered if she was a suspect. But she hadn't been told yet about Danny's murder. The detective said that he waited until she got to the jail to tell her (but she seemingly found out from her voicemail). You can see her stunned reaction when the detective tells her that Danny is dead. This contradicts testimony in two trials she gave that police informed her of Danny's death in the car ride to the station. She also admits to having a guilty conscience. An innocent person wouldn't be wondering if they were a suspect, and she wouldn't have known that Danny was dead.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49217566) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 2:06 AM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Can that statement be used against her if she is tried for the murder? I know she has a limited immunity deal that says that her testimony generally can't be used against her. But as I recall, the fine print says that it can be used to impeach her credibility if she lies. As I recall, there is video of her first interview with the police where she has a meltdown after being told that shortporch is dead. That would seem to clearly contradict the statement she made that she was worried about being a suspect on the way to the police station. Can any criminal procedure mastermen tell me if this statement would be admissible?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49218427) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 2:10 AM Author: Kansas City Royals
I doubt it. Even though the evidence against Wendi is mounting it's still more likely than not that they never charge her.
If they do, it's because they have more evidence against her than they're letting on. Which Georgia has at times hinted at.
But no, they can't admit anything from the immunity testimony.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49218435) |
Date: August 27th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
Donna texted Wendi on the morning of Danny's murder that the Best Buy repairman was coming to look at the TV. Remember that Danny much to his misfortune left a detailed phone voicemail about his whereabouts with Wendi earlier telling her exactly when he would be at the gym. Wendi then texts Charlie 'this is sweet!' to Donna. A text she later deleted before giving her phone to investigators. Fixing the TV was code between all of them for bumping Danny off.
Jfc Wendi was deep in it. Harvey may be next just get them all at this point. Even Robert probably knew. It's 0% a coincidence that Danny leaves a detailed message about where he's going to be and moments later Donna calls in the hit and Wendi texts Charlie that he's so sweet. Jfc these are true monsters.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49217998) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 2:16 AM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
I dunno. The taped conversation between Harvey and Donna played today strongly suggests that Harvey was completely out of the loop. You could probably charge him with some kind of obstruction or tax evasion charge if you really wanted to, but is it really worth the trouble at this point? The statute of limitations has probably run for those types of charges at this point anyway.
Wendi definitely knew, though. However, I will assume that the poaster above is knowledgeable about criminal law in Florida and that charging her requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt that she engaged in "action in furtherance of conspiracy." I take that to mean that knowing is not enough. They have to prove that she actively participated. But I don't know. As I think about it, maybe the state could argue that, at the bare minimum, she knew that her mom and brother were plotting to murder her ex. And if she shared information with them about his whereabouts, she had to know what was going to happen.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49218448) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
what's the backstory on how they all got caught? I haven't been following this
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49219447) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 2:27 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
The break in the case was a law enforcement operation called 'The Bump'. Long story short the police found the most ghetto dude in the department, who was basically a fat Puerto Rican guy from New York with a Brooklyn accent (one defendant now serving life without parole called him a 'New Yorican nigga') to approach Donna in a ridiculous disguise on the street and hand her an envelope. In it was a letter that said your family is taking care of Katie and Sigfredo 'Tuto' Garcia but not doing anything for Luis 'Tato' Rivera. The letter mentioned that this guy knew about what Tato did for the Adelsons 'up North' (in Tallahassee) and wanted a pay out.
All the suspects in this case had their phones tapped and they were being tailed by law enforcement when they went out to meet in public. Any normal thinking person would intuit this was a police set up. The acting was atrocious but the cops were smart to target Donna who probably thought all Latino people were thugs.
All the conspirators basically cracked under the pressure. They all got really paranoid, started talking about it non stop over the phone using code words like using a real estate deal as a metaphor. They convinced themselves they really were being extorted by some gang members. They just kept spilling the beans on record. Charlie even called the police number which I thought was funny because he said it rang 30 times before anyone picked up which makes me think they were in an office and not some actual hoodlum.
Also any innocent person if they were being harassed by gang members would immediately call the police. They never did. They were afraid that the guy setting them up would go to the cops with information. This is classic one wrong move territory. All it took was some atrocious acting job by the police that any rational person would think is a police sting and they just went into a total frenzy. Giving away the bag. It's ironic because Charlie used to tell everyone he met that anyone can get away with murder as long as you keep your mouth shut. He did not keep his mouth shut. He went full retard.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49219488) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 4:11 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
all credited. and the two shooters were comically inept about driving up to do the shoot. they left a paper and electronic trail that was easy to trace.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49219778) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 6:31 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,,,.,,.,..,.,.,.,.,,.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220093) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 10:19 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Did anyone else catch the line where Charlie said that he wouldn't let the police search his phone because he has too many dick pics on it? "I'm not going to let the police laugh at my tiny pee pee." Or something to that effect?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220603) |
Date: August 28th, 2025 6:42 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
Judge Everett: "After conferring with attorneys we will have a little bit of an earlier recess this evening. You may continue."
Georgia: "Ah, these promises... *cheeky smirk*"
*laughter from the gallery*
Judge Everett: "The other way of saying it is we're going to hold you captive listening to phone calls. However, the pleasant way is the end is near. Ms. Cappleman."
*Evertt is laughing now, whole room is chuckling.
Georgia: "Torture will continue until morale improves."
WHAT'S HER MONIKER
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220121) |
Date: August 28th, 2025 7:12 PM Author: sarc a schtick
Wendi is going to be a difficult case unless Charlie or Donna sing. And I doubt either of them do. Donna will die in prison even if she agrees to testify and she's just glad her grandchildren are out of Dan's hands. And Charlie I guess has more reason to rat, but if he didn't plea to get Donna I don't think he would for Wendi either.
The case against her is pretty good but almost all circumstantial. The defense could even plausibly argue that maybe Wendi knew something was going to happen, but didn't participate in it. The link from the hitmen to Wendi is too attenuated right now.
I think the state should try anyway, but she'll probably walk which will be a tragedy. This family is evil thank God they're also unbelievably stupid.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220170) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 7:19 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
trial of the century if they put her on
fact: she is guilty and did know about it and was the primary beneficiary of the conspiracy
they may or may not have enough evidence to convict. better try than let her walk away.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220180) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 7:53 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
Wendi could have come forward at any point in the years when her mother and brother were carrying on with life as if nothing had happened, enjoying time with the grandkids and nephews, living their ideal retirement with Danny out of the picture, blocking access from Danny's parents to see the kids. She could have stepped up and said I know something happened here and helped out the prosecution. Instead, nothing. Just an innocent dove. Oh, I had no idea why two gang members from South Florida drove to Tallahassee in the middle of an acrimonious custody dispute and offed my ex husband! It was just really fortunate and now I'm here in Miami living exactly how I had hoped to!
Danny wanted 3 things. He wanted location (Tallahassee, raise the kids in the marital home where they were born). He wanted education, I'm assuming private Hebrew school. And he wanted religion, Orthodox Jew. And Wendi wanted none of that. And she got to have everything her way. Oh, I didn't know! I couldn't have known! How was I to know?!
Burn the witch.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220233) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 10:32 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
i looked. nope. only pre-school
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220630) |
Date: August 28th, 2025 10:50 PM Author: Nazca Redlines
How is the sentiment ITT that the state might not try Wendi or that she might walk? She's guilty as sin, and if you told the average guy on the street the 90-second version of the case, he'd say, "obviously she knew about the plot and helped them execute it."
Wendi had an extremely strong motive for wanting Shortporch dead.
Wendi's mom and brother have been/will soon be convicted of hiring hitmen to kill him.
Wendi was critical to the plot insofar as the info about where Shortporch would be had to come from her.
She changed the kids' schedule to accommodate the hit.
She asked Jeff all about his schedule to put the hit on him.
And she inexplicably drove by the house the day of the murder.
Jurors may be dumb in the sense of being ill suited to assess whether a certain microchip infringes a patent or what appropriate damages are in a penis-burn case. But the basic evidence against Wendi is more than a jury would need to convict.
The state will charge Wendi. A jury will convict. They won't deliberate for long.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220698) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 11:29 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
That may or may not be true. Many real life crimdef lawyers covering this case think Wendi is still a longshot. A lot of it is based on circumstantial evidence. You have to have more than just she was the prime beneficiary of Danny's death in a murder for hire plot conducted by her mom and brother.
Donna and Charlie's fingerprints are on everything. They plotted it, found the people, wrote the checks, got caught on a wire acting extremely guilty, two co-conspirators testified against them. An unindicted co-conspirator (Wendi) testified against them. These are slam shut.
What changed is in the Donna trial a lot more has come out about Wendi, fueling public antipathy against her. But the state still has nowhere near the smoking gun they have against Charlie and Donna.
But sentiment is really moving against Wendi and more people feel like you do. The consensus building against Wendi is so what if we don't have a slam dunk case against her. Do it anyway. I think a lot of people are coming around to that. It's going to be a very difficult trial to put on. For instance in the Donna case 90% of the evidence so far has been about Donna's co-conspirators, indicted as well as unindicted. So we'll see. I think the will of the people is bubbling up to seek justice against Wendi. It's getting more and more likely to happen.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220777) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 11:39 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
I hope he is ready. I'm much more bullish on the case against Wendi than many people in this thread, but even I will concede that Jeff's testimony is absolutely critical in order to get charges against Wendi to stick. If the defense can paint Jeff as a vindictive ex-boyfriend with an axe to grind or otherwise undermine his credibility, Wendi could very well walk.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220792) |
 |
Date: August 29th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
I disagree. In her testimony, Wendi tried to convince jurors that she wasn't really that mad at shortporch; just regular couple arguments. And she was totally fine staying in Tallahassee and decided it was actually better than Miami. Without Jeff's testimony, she could easily convince a jury that there was no motive for murder. Also, Jeff testified that not only did Wendi admit to hiring a hitman, but she also asked him if her kids would be old enough to remember if their father got whacked. This is the best evidence we have currently that Wendi was aware of the plot and supported it. Plus his testimony about Wendi grilling him about his travel plans followed by Wendi suggesting his name as a suspect at her first police interview. Jeff also testified that Wendi appeared to have deliberately damaged her own TV (giving her an alibi at the time of the murder).
Without Jeff, the case against Wendi is extremely circumstantial at best. Basically the only real evidence the state has are the fact that Wendi drove by the crime scene shortly after the hit and didn't check on her kids or call the police afterward and the fact that she lied under oath about hearing about shortporch's death on the way to the police station. Based on the evidence I have seen so far, Jeff's testimony will be absolutely critical if they want to take down Wendi.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49221479) |
 |
Date: August 28th, 2025 11:47 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
Adelson defense counsel ranked:
Wendi: ???
Charlie: B for creativity and a dogshit case
Donna: F, totally in over their heads
Wendi should call Karen Read. You gotta go out of state for this one.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220803) |
 |
Date: August 29th, 2025 1:09 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,,,.,,.,..,.,.,.,.,,.
He seems way too analytical and scholarly to be the vindictive ex who would go out of his way to paint his innocent ex-girlfriend as a murderer. I doubt a jury will buy that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220920) |
Date: August 29th, 2025 12:46 AM Author: Kansas City Royals
https://i.redd.it/m3ntek2r2alf1.jpeg
somebody needed to poast this from Georgia's evidence, the cover of an Israeli version of Puss in Boots that Danny supposedly played for his kids to teach them Hebrew. Origin of the term 'Jibbers' or "Jew in Boots". Sadly Georgia skipped over this when grilling Wendi.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49220889) |
Date: August 29th, 2025 10:18 AM Author: A Real Life Male Model
NEW EVIDENCE: donna had shortporch's vehicle and tag number in her daily planner from murder year.....
its over
imagine an innocent reason to have your ex-SIL's license plate number written in your planner
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49221493) |
Date: August 29th, 2025 12:26 PM Author: Kansas City Royals
Ljfl that Donna was caught on a hot jail mic talking about how Wendi sent her a message saying my lawyer has advised me to not talk to my family at all and to not talk about the case. Wendi lawyering up against her own fam. Donna thought Wendi was being cold for not calling the fam to talk about how sad it was that Charlie was convicted. Wendi claiming 'it's not my fault how the prosecutor used my testimony! I had nothing to do with this and I did nothing wrong!'
This already shows how Wendi is preparing for trial and is not nearly as dumb as her mom and brother. Another main reason she may walk. Just hasn't been going around talking about it endlessly for years makes her seem innocent relative to her family.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49221841) |
Date: August 29th, 2025 2:28 PM Author: A Real Life Male Model
State should have not used this WOC jailhouse snitch. She sucks, dumb as shit, cannot tell a straight story, contradicts her depo.
There really was no need for this, and if anything its the first time in the trial I have felt like Donna was being accused of anything false. Donna would never have answered the question, "Did you kill Markel?" with "Yes, to get my grandkids", esp to some black thugess. Lol. Some conniving jewess senior cit is just going to confess outright to a 75IQ black dyke
Greedy by the state, and an unforced error
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49222190) |
 |
Date: August 29th, 2025 3:12 PM Author: A Real Life Male Model
far better
this handwriting expert wit is so fucking nervous it is painful to me. shaky breath, losing her shit. very uncomfortable
shouldnt forensic handwriting experts have some experience on the stand?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49222306) |
Date: August 29th, 2025 3:15 PM Author: A Real Life Male Model
some talk by judge that state could rest today or tuesday. Ive been waiting forever to watch them call the miami lawyers, for personal reasons.
tara kawass, david markus, etc.. but esp Sara Yousef, Wendi's "ex bff" from law school.
if state rests w/o calling these lolyers I will be maf
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49222311) |
Date: August 29th, 2025 3:33 PM Author: Gay Grandpa
Real talk, Jeff never had any prospect of being convicted for the murder.
How did they get the tutu/Tata or whatever?
Cell phone geolocation
Jeff would obviously have his lawyer subpoena the cell phone records which would show he was engaged in his regular routine at that time, and probably there would be witnesses placing him at those locations as well.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49222340) |
 |
Date: August 29th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
it was a bird brain idea by the Adelsons.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49222348) |
 |
Date: August 29th, 2025 4:40 PM Author: A Real Life Male Model
the state and fed response to this killing was surprisingly energetic and competent.
i would imagine none of the jews involved (apart from crim procedure professor dan) expected such an investigation
they probably thought "pretty good line of separation btwn the jews and the hispanics here", neighbor or someone is just going to see a car and this will go nowhere, worst case lacasse is suspected
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2"#49222463) |
|
|