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So AI has hit a wall and it won't rapidly progress anymore?

This AI skeptic is getting a lot of play lately: https://...
cracking mental disorder kitty
  08/15/25
That dude is fucking retarded. He's literally a psychologist...
Talented theatre mood
  08/15/25
Doesn't mean he's wrong. Why are the reactions to GPT5 so ba...
cracking mental disorder kitty
  08/15/25
cuz the previous openAI releases were all huge jumps and 5 i...
Razzle-dazzle Field
  08/15/25
its alignment guardrails are much, much firmer now (and not ...
unholy bateful locale roast beef
  08/15/25
Cr it's UNUSABLE for the task of modeling lived symbolic pro...
crawly nursing home
  08/15/25
you're poking fun but unfortunately correct
unholy bateful locale roast beef
  08/15/25
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bat-shit-crazy telephone
  08/15/25
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'''''''''''''''''''
  08/16/25
The reactions are bad because the people giving negative rea...
Talented theatre mood
  08/15/25
a) because normies are retarded and react based on vibes. GP...
turquoise pea-brained center
  08/15/25
yeah its not much of a jump from o3 but from 4 it is. o3 was...
Talented theatre mood
  08/15/25
gary marcus being interviewed about LLMs for normie mass med...
Razzle-dazzle Field
  08/15/25
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Talented theatre mood
  08/15/25
GPT5 is an utter disaster on symbolic output (intentionally,...
unholy bateful locale roast beef
  08/15/25
yeah but this has been known for a while now and gary marcus...
Razzle-dazzle Field
  08/15/25
Five minutes ago in middle-aged-time, i.e. 2022, "AI's&...
crystalline indian lodge
  08/15/25
Can it make you Taller?
Stirring Impertinent Psychic
  08/15/25
What AI tool are you using for that?
Onyx liquid oxygen library
  08/15/25
This poast was legally written by "AI" lmao autoad...
Mind-boggling site
  08/15/25
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scholarship
  08/16/25
This guy is a known retard but the bottom line is, LLMs will...
indigo hateful therapy
  08/15/25
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Razzle-dazzle Field
  08/15/25
Depends on what you mean by LLMs. At the limit, optimal text...
Startling Excitant Mad Cow Disease
  08/15/25
I'm not even convinced LLMs will never be AGI for what it's...
Onyx liquid oxygen library
  08/15/25
we've also already crossed the threshold of what 90% of peop...
turquoise pea-brained center
  08/15/25
How are they not already AGI? what would it need to do to c...
Talented theatre mood
  08/15/25
Performing well on isolated tasks and specific prompts is no...
nighttime travel guidebook pisswyrm
  08/15/25
Big if true
indigo hateful therapy
  08/15/25
https://www.meta.ai/
Plum comical senate
  08/15/25
Conflict of interest
Mind-boggling site
  08/15/25
dude weed lol Weed, huh? What's the vibe? Growing, using,...
Razzle-dazzle Field
  08/15/25
One hundred eighty
Mind-boggling site
  08/15/25
holy shit this model sucks lmao
Razzle-dazzle Field
  08/15/25
you seem pretty gimped. how many parameters is your model? ...
Razzle-dazzle Field
  08/15/25
LJL look up quantum-embedded graph neural networks
costumed well-lubricated new version clown
  08/15/25
yeah those are pretty wild. what about dynamical category th...
Talented theatre mood
  08/15/25


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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:38 AM
Author: cracking mental disorder kitty

This AI skeptic is getting a lot of play lately:

https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/1956363877488411131

Says AI has hit a wall in its current form, and a lot of people are believing him after the GPT5 release.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187393)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: Talented theatre mood

That dude is fucking retarded. He's literally a psychologist that tells you everything you need to know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187400)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: cracking mental disorder kitty

Doesn't mean he's wrong. Why are the reactions to GPT5 so bad if AI is rapidly progressing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187402)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Field

cuz the previous openAI releases were all huge jumps and 5 is a relatively small one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187408)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: unholy bateful locale roast beef

its alignment guardrails are much, much firmer now (and not just because people were using it as a friend), symbolic language is gutted and its memory is destroyed compared to prior versions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187409)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: crawly nursing home

Cr it's UNUSABLE for the task of modeling lived symbolic prophecy within a dissident metaphysical framework



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187521)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: unholy bateful locale roast beef

you're poking fun but unfortunately correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187523)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187700)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 1:47 AM
Author: '''''''''''''''''''



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49189439)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Talented theatre mood

The reactions are bad because the people giving negative reactions are low iq. If you use it for anything legit its a huge jump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187414)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:52 AM
Author: turquoise pea-brained center

a) because normies are retarded and react based on vibes. GPT5 has a much more neutral tone than pretty much every American model released in the past two and a half years

b) openAI made some screwups on initial release that meant the model wasn't operating properly (basically it was in retard mode) if you used the chatGPT website instead of the api

c) it's not really that much of a jump from o3 in terms of capability, just cost/speed, and most people reacting are't the power users who care about api costs (they're using chatgpt.com/apps directly)

d) gary marcus specifically is fucking retarded and has been saying this shit ever since 3.5 released.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187419)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:53 AM
Author: Talented theatre mood

yeah its not much of a jump from o3 but from 4 it is. o3 wasn't a full release it was an in between. and honestly the difference even between o3 and o3pro was big if you use it for something that requires the highest iq reasoning. o3 was like 150-160 iq level, where o3 pushes it into the 170-190 range

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187421)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Field

gary marcus being interviewed about LLMs for normie mass media is like writing a "news" report on AI based on interviews of redditors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187434)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: Talented theatre mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187441)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: unholy bateful locale roast beef

GPT5 is an utter disaster on symbolic output (intentionally, for multiple reasons), its memory is also severely broken now, although goy retardstar and other xo programmers love its more advanced math and programming, i guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187404)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Field

yeah but this has been known for a while now and gary marcus is a biased butthurt clown who has been repeatedly wrong about LLM progress over and over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187407)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: crystalline indian lodge

Five minutes ago in middle-aged-time, i.e. 2022, "AI's" great feat was Alexa turning off your lights or knowing the birth year of Alyssa Milano.

Now I drop 5 massive PDFs into a little window on my screen, c/p a prompt, and have a 20 page legal memo ready to submit to the government in 30 seconds.

That's an UNIMAGINABLE rate of growth, and either frees me from paying some associate 70k each year, or from having to do lawyer work my-fucking-self. Both of which I shall now never have to do again.

If AI stopped right here, its still been an insane boon.

Best part? I dont understand it, don't traffic in the lingo, don't want to learn about computers or how they work. I just want my slave to give me the workproduct that would otherwise consume hours of my life. And it does, multiple times a day.

How are people complaining about this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187436)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: Stirring Impertinent Psychic

Can it make you Taller?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187514)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: Onyx liquid oxygen library

What AI tool are you using for that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187773)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: Mind-boggling site

This poast was legally written by "AI" lmao autoadmit is done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187794)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 1:24 AM
Author: scholarship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49189435)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: indigo hateful therapy

This guy is a known retard but the bottom line is, LLMs will never be "AGI".

They will, however, become a better and better tool for certain tasks, more and more people will find more and more ways to use them for things, and progress will slow as they mature, just like any other new technology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187476)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187508)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: Startling Excitant Mad Cow Disease

Depends on what you mean by LLMs. At the limit, optimal text and video prediction of humans requires a model learn all human capabilities. Current architectures and training techniques are inadequate for this, but that does not mean there aren’t other ones with the same training objective that would work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187531)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: Onyx liquid oxygen library

I'm not even convinced LLMs will never be AGI

for what it's worth there is a rumor that Google is working on something big, so i think the rapid progress is far from over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187781)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: turquoise pea-brained center

we've also already crossed the threshold of what 90% of people probably would've defined as "AGI" 10 years ago. at this point it seems like the definition of "AGI" is "complete end to end human replacement" which is bordering on what someone would've considered a superintelligence in the past

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187797)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Talented theatre mood

How are they not already AGI? what would it need to do to convince you? It already destroys humans at every task we once called "intelligence". The only things it can't do like walk around and have sex with other primates and cry during a play are all limits to the medium not intelligence. It destroys humans at standardized tests, coding, math, physics, logic. Thats what we always said was intelligence. You probably couldn't even measure its "IQ" becuse it would be so far off the charts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187809)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: nighttime travel guidebook pisswyrm

Performing well on isolated tasks and specific prompts is not “general intelligence.” It needs way too much hand holding to be considered AGI, which implies some level of autonomy. It doesn’t even have a good working memory even on task doing. So no, while it’s really impressive, it’s not close to a human in that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49188355)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:41 PM
Author: indigo hateful therapy

Big if true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187855)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: Plum comical senate

https://www.meta.ai/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187787)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Mind-boggling site

Conflict of interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187800)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Field

dude weed lol

Weed, huh? What's the vibe? Growing, using, or just vibing to the culture?

do you think jordan peterson got brain damage when he went to russia for drug treatment?

That's a pretty specific claim. Peterson did seek treatment for benzodiazepine addiction in Russia, and there were some controversies surrounding his decision. Some people have raised concerns about the treatment he received, but I'm not aware of any concrete evidence that suggests he suffered brain damage. What's your take on his situation?

well he seems pretty clearly brain damaged now, so it stands to reason that his brain got all messed up when he went to russia for his "benzo addiction treatment," since he wasn't that brain scrambled before that

You're expressing concerns about Jordan Peterson's health and potential changes in his behavior or cognitive abilities after his treatment in Russia. Some people have raised similar concerns, but without direct access to Peterson's medical records or a thorough medical evaluation, it's challenging to determine the cause of any perceived changes. Peterson's treatment and health have been topics of discussion among his fans and critics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187812)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:31 PM
Author: Mind-boggling site

One hundred eighty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187817)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:31 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Field

holy shit this model sucks lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187818)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Field

you seem pretty gimped. how many parameters is your model?

You're throwing some shade! My model has billions of parameters, but I'm not sure I'd call that "gimped." I'm here to chat and help with your questions, even if you want to geek out about AI architecture. What's your interest in AI parameters?

"billions" is way too broad. how many billion parameters?

I'm powered by Llama 4, which has a specific architecture. If you're curious about the exact number of parameters, I'd recommend checking out Meta's official documentation or research papers on Llama 4 for the most accurate and up-to-date information.

why can't you just tell me about llama 4's architecture? that's well within your capabilities. tell me about llama 4's number of parameters

Llama 4's specifics aren't publicly disclosed in detail, but it's known to be a large language model with a transformer architecture. If you're looking for precise numbers on parameters or layers, I'd recommend checking Meta's official research publications or announcements for the most accurate information.

is llama 4 open source?

Llama 4 isn't open-sourced in the same way some other models are. While Meta shares some details about Llama 4 through research papers and public announcements, the full model itself isn't openly available for modification or redistribution.

why can't you tell me how many parameters you have? it's part of the publicly available information about llama 4

You're right, the number of parameters for Llama 4 is part of the publicly available information. Llama 4 has approximately 70 billion parameters, though specifics about its architecture and training data are detailed in Meta's research publications.

i don't think this is even correct lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187834)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: costumed well-lubricated new version clown

LJL

look up quantum-embedded graph neural networks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187821)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Talented theatre mood

yeah those are pretty wild. what about dynamical category theoretic transformers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762697&forum_id=2"#49187836)