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Lawyer cites hallucinated case in brief. Gets absolutely destroyed

https://x.com/RobertFreundLaw/status/1956164045612228968 ...
rose shrine twinkling uncleanness
  08/14/25
the lawyer: https://res.cloudinary.com/furthered/image/fetch...
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/14/25
Would.
Spectacular chrome ticket booth
  08/14/25
Binary 0
Overrated volcanic crater
  08/15/25
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Hairraiser pozpig
  08/14/25
what's causing AI to do this? honestly, these reactions f...
henna national gaming laptop
  08/14/25
these reactions are 180. judges need to make examples of the...
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/14/25
AI will absolutely crush the legal industry within 10 years.
spruce aphrodisiac space
  08/14/25
fine, so judges should still stand up to it for now
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/15/25
10 years of viability vs 5 years might make the difference f...
Balding ladyboy cruise ship
  08/15/25
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Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/15/25
No just practitioners like you were before you fled.
.:.::;.:.;.::.;.:;
  08/18/25
is AI useless or will it take all the jobs? make up your min...
out-of-control nubile persian
  08/15/25
low iq schtick? AI can be shit yet take jobs, just like H1-B...
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/15/25
overboard? lawcucks have ONE JOB
Marvelous bright bawdyhouse trust fund
  08/14/25
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bipolar house crotch
  08/14/25
AI is programmed to be like a golden retriever, not a donkey...
mewling opaque abode yarmulke
  08/15/25
Overboard? This is a real trout in the milk situation. The ...
Kink-friendly boltzmann
  08/15/25
I don't think the sanction is overly harsh. She has her pro ...
emerald magical locale
  08/15/25
Well, the judge is AI too
Maize Hall Telephone
  08/15/25
LLMs are nothing but giant roulette wheels running a million...
I Listen to Porn Podcasts
  08/18/25
pretty fucked up that the hammer gets dropped on people like...
Pink histrionic church
  08/14/25
who decided to name this shit "hallucinations"
adventurous adulterous lodge
  08/14/25
is there a better word than "making shit up"?
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/14/25
ai slop
Marvelous bright bawdyhouse trust fund
  08/14/25
ai slop could just be a shitty brief that babbles on and has...
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/14/25
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/confabulation
spruce aphrodisiac space
  08/14/25
normies dont know this sat word. how's it better than halluc...
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/15/25
Ai slop can be real
I Listen to Porn Podcasts
  08/18/25
technofantastigorical.
Sadistic Chocolate Theater Stage International Law Enforcement Agency
  08/14/25
confabulating
spruce aphrodisiac space
  08/14/25
yeah: "fake case" or "fake information" ...
adventurous adulterous lodge
  08/14/25
(really smart guy who thinks shitlawyers coined “hallu...
Sadistic Chocolate Theater Stage International Law Enforcement Agency
  08/14/25
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Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/15/25
they're more accurately termed 'confabulations' but you soun...
spruce aphrodisiac space
  08/14/25
any lawyer too lazy to cite check a brief they submitted but...
Sadistic Chocolate Theater Stage International Law Enforcement Agency
  08/14/25
should be jail time for this shit
Marvelous bright bawdyhouse trust fund
  08/14/25
...
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/15/25
that’s a pretty extreme punishment. it’s a legit...
Green Charismatic Brethren
  08/14/25
Judges getting in on the act: https://www.abajournal.com/...
frozen dysfunction
  08/14/25
not a good look for two federal judges.
mewling opaque abode yarmulke
  08/15/25
insightful journalism: >Scheindlin tells the ABA Journ...
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/15/25
LOL, most judges don't even know anything about a case befor...
frozen dysfunction
  08/15/25
GUESS RACES OF THE 2 JUDGES: https://www.abajournal.com/i...
Judgmental curious mad cow disease address
  08/15/25
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Khaki meetinghouse preventive strike
  08/14/25
BAM!, literally, in this case.
mewling opaque abode yarmulke
  08/15/25
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rose shrine twinkling uncleanness
  08/15/25
I don't get the people saying this was too harsh a punishmen...
Irradiated mint business firm
  08/15/25
Looking forward to reading about a case where both sides use...
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  08/18/25
They punished her like that for something that will be stand...
.,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,.,..,::,..,,:.,.,.:,..:.,:.:,
  08/18/25
She should have used ShepAIrdize This
I Listen to Porn Podcasts
  08/18/25


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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: rose shrine twinkling uncleanness

https://x.com/RobertFreundLaw/status/1956164045612228968

Another lawyer cited a bunch of fake, AI-hallucinated cases in a brief. Said she didn't knowingly do that.

Court orders sanctions:

-Counsel must write a letter to the 3 judges to whom she attributed fake cases

-Counsel is kicked off the case; pro hac revoked

-Brief stricken

-Counsel must give client a copy of the order

-Counsel must send the order to every judge presiding over any of her cases

-Court will send a copy of the order to all state bars where counsel is admitted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186591)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:05 PM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address

the lawyer: https://res.cloudinary.com/furthered/image/fetch/w_480,h_480,c_fill,g_faces,g_auto,f_auto/https://cdn.furthered.com/images/public_profile/5e7b325a7e23c.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186673)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:06 PM
Author: Spectacular chrome ticket booth

Would.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186679)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: Overrated volcanic crater

Binary 0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187427)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:47 PM
Author: Hairraiser pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186610)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: henna national gaming laptop

what's causing AI to do this?

honestly, these reactions from judges seem overboard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186637)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address

these reactions are 180. judges need to make examples of these shitlawyers to save the profession from AI, to put the fear in god in these people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186643)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: spruce aphrodisiac space

AI will absolutely crush the legal industry within 10 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186703)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:04 AM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address

fine, so judges should still stand up to it for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187119)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:17 AM
Author: Balding ladyboy cruise ship

10 years of viability vs 5 years might make the difference for half the board to parachute out before the holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187136)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187137)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 1:11 AM
Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:;

No just practitioners like you were before you fled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49193630)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: out-of-control nubile persian

is AI useless or will it take all the jobs? make up your mind

amazing how jews first determine what is "correct" by how they feel then they backwards rationalize into their "opinion"

emotional faggoty women, the lot of you jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187432)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address

low iq schtick? AI can be shit yet take jobs, just like H1-Bs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49188813)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: Marvelous bright bawdyhouse trust fund

overboard?

lawcucks have ONE JOB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186689)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: bipolar house crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186696)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: mewling opaque abode yarmulke

AI is programmed to be like a golden retriever, not a donkey. it will do nearly anything to please the prompter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187126)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:15 AM
Author: Kink-friendly boltzmann

Overboard? This is a real trout in the milk situation. The lawfags who do this never do anything right, they simply copy/paste whatever they find without checking it. We just couldn't prove that's what they were doing until now. If anything the judges are being too lenient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187131)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:38 AM
Author: emerald magical locale

I don't think the sanction is overly harsh. She has her pro have vice revoked and has to own up to being a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187157)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Maize Hall Telephone

Well, the judge is AI too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49188828)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts

LLMs are nothing but giant roulette wheels running a million spins to determine the most likely next token (part of a word, e.g. ‘to’ and ‘ken’). It is the proverbial monkey typing Shakespeare on a long enough timeline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49194335)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:58 PM
Author: Pink histrionic church

pretty fucked up that the hammer gets dropped on people like this while that one nigger judge can literally make a legal ruling(!) based on completely made up AI shit and nothing at all happens to him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186648)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:59 PM
Author: adventurous adulterous lodge

who decided to name this shit "hallucinations"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186650)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:03 PM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address

is there a better word than "making shit up"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186665)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:12 PM
Author: Marvelous bright bawdyhouse trust fund

ai slop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186691)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:14 PM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address

ai slop could just be a shitty brief that babbles on and has that ai slop look. it doesnt properly capture the "making shit up" aspect that hallucinations does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186695)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: spruce aphrodisiac space

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/confabulation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186736)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:03 AM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address

normies dont know this sat word. how's it better than hallucination?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187117)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts

Ai slop can be real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49194337)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Sadistic Chocolate Theater Stage International Law Enforcement Agency

technofantastigorical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186701)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: spruce aphrodisiac space

confabulating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186709)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: adventurous adulterous lodge

yeah: "fake case" or "fake information" or "fake facts"

Lawyers always need to make up some new retarded term to make themselves feel smart when they blurt it out. Lawyers are scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186710)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Sadistic Chocolate Theater Stage International Law Enforcement Agency

(really smart guy who thinks shitlawyers coined “hallucinations” wrt ai)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186717)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:03 AM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187118)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:18 PM
Author: spruce aphrodisiac space

they're more accurately termed 'confabulations' but you sound like a faggot when you say that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186707)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: Sadistic Chocolate Theater Stage International Law Enforcement Agency

any lawyer too lazy to cite check a brief they submitted but didn’t even bother to write while KNOWING that is a likely outcome deserves to be disbarred.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186698)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: Marvelous bright bawdyhouse trust fund

should be jail time for this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186699)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:04 AM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187120)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: Green Charismatic Brethren

that’s a pretty extreme punishment. it’s a legitimate inexcusable fuck up, I get that, but ho lee fuk they might as well make her walk through the street naked cersei-style

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186742)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: frozen dysfunction

Judges getting in on the act:

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/who-or-what-is-to-blame-for-2-federal-judges-error-filled-withdrawn-opinions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186759)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:13 AM
Author: mewling opaque abode yarmulke

not a good look for two federal judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187129)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:15 AM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address

insightful journalism:

>Scheindlin tells the ABA Journal in an email that, in her experience, most judges use law clerks to conduct research. And most ask their law clerks to prepare first drafts of opinions after discussing each issue, so that the clerk knows how the judge wants to rule.

is anyone reading the aba journal not aware of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187132)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: frozen dysfunction

LOL, most judges don't even know anything about a case before a clerk gives them the proposed draft of an opinion. At least in the courts I clerked for- clerks for various judges trade war stories.

edit: this applies to district judges more so than appellate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187399)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:16 AM
Author: Judgmental curious mad cow disease address

GUESS RACES OF THE 2 JUDGES:

https://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/Neals_Wingate_headshots.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187134)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:55 PM
Author: Khaki meetinghouse preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49186831)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:09 AM
Author: mewling opaque abode yarmulke

BAM!, literally, in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49187125)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: rose shrine twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49188702)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:55 PM
Author: Irradiated mint business firm

I don't get the people saying this was too harsh a punishment.

She's a lawyer, charging her clients money, submitting stuff she didn't write and didn't even bother to read to a judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49188996)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: Electric idiotic shitlib

Looking forward to reading about a case where both sides use AI to draft every document and the judge uses AI to draft the decision, except the articles about it will probably also be written by AI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49189009)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: football



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49194332)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 1:08 AM
Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,.,..,::,..,,:.,.,.:,..:.,:.:,


They punished her like that for something that will be standard practice in the legal profession in 3 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49193629)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts

She should have used ShepAIrdize This

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2"#49194338)