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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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greedy kitchen
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
  12/16/25
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greedy kitchen
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
greedy kitchen
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug
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greedy kitchen
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Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Gold knife
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
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Gold knife
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
fragrant aggressive background story
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
slimy arrogant turdskin
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
galvanic garrison
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Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
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greedy kitchen
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
pearly pontificating stag film
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
supple forum
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Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate
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pearly pontificating stag film
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greedy kitchen
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greedy kitchen
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
amber insecure mood abode
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: greedy kitchen



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: greedy kitchen

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: greedy kitchen

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: greedy kitchen



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Gold knife

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Gold knife



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: fragrant aggressive background story

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: slimy arrogant turdskin

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2),#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: galvanic garrison

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: pearly pontificating stag film

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: supple forum

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Appetizing wild step-uncle's house karate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Self-centered Snowy Antidepressant Drug

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: amber insecure mood abode

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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