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How did brands like Doc Marten, Allen Edmonds and Birkenstocks survive?

They suck
Dave Prole
  08/16/25
I see Birkenstocks everywhere these days, at premium prices ...
butt cheeks
  08/16/25
My wife has some ultralight version that resemble Crocs A...
Dave Prole
  08/16/25
the plastic ones are ghastly I have a pair made out of cork...
butt cheeks
  08/16/25
birkenstocks rock. best sandals out there. they've got the m...
alpha+outgoing 24/7 thingdoer introvert
  08/17/25
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David Justice tp
  08/17/25
hdy
Ass Sunstein
  08/16/25
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David Justice tp
  08/17/25
What's the issue with Allen Edmonds? I have some from ab...
~~(> ' ' )>
  08/16/25
They’re just not that good quality or stylish. The Cha...
Martin Skhreli
  08/16/25
except for shell, don't see the point of Alden. they make a ...
peeface
  08/16/25
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  08/16/25
Aldens fucking suck and only stay in business because of the...
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  08/16/25
I have like 10 pairs of them from a decade ago and will neve...
Dave Prole
  08/16/25
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ghee
  08/16/25
White people can be fiercely loyal to weird things. Until t...
Die Hard 2: Die Harder
  08/16/25
Dr Martens killed their English production 20 years ago and ...
bloomington
  08/16/25
*Allens Edmond *Birkensstock
CapTTTainFalcon
  08/16/25
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  08/16/25
how did any shoes over 40 bucks survive.
Bob Rooney
  08/16/25
Tasteless, goofy jews
jew hater
  08/16/25
you have a handful of hoodies, tshirts, and sweats that you ...
alpha+outgoing 24/7 thingdoer introvert
  08/17/25
Lmao @ this 45 year old shitskin stomping around in doc mart...
jew hater
  08/17/25
I don't know shit about shoes. What's the XO shoe if not AE...
,,,,....,..,...,....,.
  08/17/25
that's precisely how they "survive." cut costs, cr...
ataraxic
  08/17/25
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Dave Prole
  08/17/25
have you seen those TikTok videos explaining how 'luxury goo...
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Date: August 16th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: Dave Prole

They suck

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Date: August 16th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: butt cheeks (✅🍑)

I see Birkenstocks everywhere these days, at premium prices too

tbf their sandals are really comfortable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190594)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: Dave Prole

My wife has some ultralight version that resemble Crocs

Absolutely disgusting

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Date: August 16th, 2025 4:32 PM
Author: butt cheeks (✅🍑)

the plastic ones are ghastly

I have a pair made out of cork with leather straps, they look hippy dippy but I really like wearing them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190611)



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Date: August 17th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: alpha+outgoing 24/7 thingdoer introvert (gunneratttt)

birkenstocks rock. best sandals out there. they've got the market corned on "comfortable, high quality sandal for people that don't care if they look like nerds." dads, hippies, etc. but now they're actually considered stylish and i see them everyone.

who tf is wondering why birks are still around? they are more popular than ever.

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Date: August 17th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: David Justice tp



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Date: August 16th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

hdy

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Date: August 16th, 2025 9:39 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,..,...,.,.,.,,..,.,....




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Date: August 17th, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: David Justice tp



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Date: August 16th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

What's the issue with Allen Edmonds?

I have some from about 15 years ago that I still wear sometimes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190666)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Martin Skhreli ((zurich is stained))

They’re just not that good quality or stylish. The Charles Tyrwhitt of shoes. Alden is more expensive but way better and worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190677)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: peeface

except for shell, don't see the point of Alden. they make a lot of clunky looking shoes and a lot from resurfaced leather. for the same price i can get something brit or italian that's nicer.

AE is okay quality, at an okay price, with strong distribution. in a lot of places the nicest dress shoe you can get. bought a pair of black Park Aves earlier this year because i was in a third tier city and needed something i could wear with black tie on very short notice.



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Date: August 16th, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,..,...,.,.,.,,..,.,....




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Date: August 16th, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,..,...,.,.,.,,..,.,....


Aldens fucking suck and only stay in business because of the mass delusion of the tradfag crowd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190986)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: Dave Prole

I have like 10 pairs of them from a decade ago and will never buy dress shoes again

Just wondering how they survived

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190845)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: ghee



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Date: August 16th, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: Die Hard 2: Die Harder

White people can be fiercely loyal to weird things. Until they become devastated economically and stop caring and the brands have to fend for themselves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190683)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: bloomington (🦬)

Dr Martens killed their English production 20 years ago and moved to China

The made in England ones I had in high school were decent quality. The made in China ones I got in college were shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190796)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

*Allens Edmond

*Birkensstock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190806)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,..,...,.,.,.,,..,.,....




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Date: August 16th, 2025 7:02 PM
Author: Bob Rooney

how did any shoes over 40 bucks survive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190812)



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Date: August 16th, 2025 9:41 PM
Author: jew hater

Tasteless, goofy jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49190990)



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Date: August 17th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: alpha+outgoing 24/7 thingdoer introvert (gunneratttt)

you have a handful of hoodies, tshirts, and sweats that you rotate only when your mom mentions you're starting to stink.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49192090)



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Date: August 17th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: jew hater

Lmao @ this 45 year old shitskin stomping around in doc martens like a retard

Fuck you, nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49192358)



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Date: August 17th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: ,,,,....,..,...,....,.

I don't know shit about shoes. What's the XO shoe if not AE / Alden?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49192369)



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Date: August 17th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: ataraxic

that's precisely how they "survive." cut costs, creep down into mass market territory, roll the dice on their brand equity carrying sales, and shift spending from r&d and high-quality COGS into marketing to increase the EV of that bet as much as they can. it always ends up with them on the sale rack at macy's or dsw but that can still be profitable within reason. cutting margins by a few percentage points but increasing sales a few times over can make a lot of $$$ for the execs if they don't fuck it up. they "survive" as ghosts of themselves.

this is exactly why almost every iconic brand clothing brand has gotten fucked in the past 50 years. brooks brothers, abercrombie, etc. once the owners shift from their legacy stewards to pure investors nobody gives a fuck anymore. nobody but the original stewards would put in the time and effort to preserve the brand purely as an act of stewardship and artisanship, without getting paid for it. unless they remain in the family or with people who really care for it, it will go to investors and they will either try to get their nut or give up entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49192408)



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Date: August 17th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: Dave Prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49192498)



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Date: August 17th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: ,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,.


have you seen those TikTok videos explaining how 'luxury goods' now cost like 25-cents to manufacture in Asia?

the mark up is like 9,000,000 %

a $20k Chanel bag costs like $5 to produce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5763109&forum_id=2),#49192410)