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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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poppy adventurous volcanic crater
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
pontificating harsh parlor potus
  12/16/25
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poppy adventurous volcanic crater
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
pink antidepressant drug
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
pontificating harsh parlor potus
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
pink antidepressant drug
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
pontificating harsh parlor potus
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
pink antidepressant drug
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
poppy adventurous volcanic crater
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
pontificating harsh parlor potus
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
pink antidepressant drug
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
pontificating harsh parlor potus
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
pink antidepressant drug
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poppy adventurous volcanic crater
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pontificating harsh parlor potus
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Disrespectful Plaza
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
pontificating harsh parlor potus
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Disrespectful Plaza
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Wine Zippy Church
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
pontificating harsh parlor potus
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Navy home foreskin
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
pontificating harsh parlor potus
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
racy ticket booth
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poppy adventurous volcanic crater
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Razzle famous landscape painting indian lodge
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
low-t preventive strike yarmulke
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pontificating harsh parlor potus
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Razzle famous landscape painting indian lodge
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poppy adventurous volcanic crater
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poppy adventurous volcanic crater
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
pink antidepressant drug
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Mahogany french chef
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: poppy adventurous volcanic crater



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: poppy adventurous volcanic crater

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: pink antidepressant drug

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: pink antidepressant drug

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: pink antidepressant drug

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: poppy adventurous volcanic crater

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: pink antidepressant drug

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: pink antidepressant drug

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: poppy adventurous volcanic crater



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Disrespectful Plaza

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Disrespectful Plaza



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Wine Zippy Church

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Navy home foreskin

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: racy ticket booth

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: poppy adventurous volcanic crater



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Razzle famous landscape painting indian lodge

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: low-t preventive strike yarmulke

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: pontificating harsh parlor potus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Razzle famous landscape painting indian lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: poppy adventurous volcanic crater



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: poppy adventurous volcanic crater



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: pink antidepressant drug

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Mahogany french chef

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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