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what kind of gun was that? incredible ballistics
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Date: September 10th, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Israel Weapon Industries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253126) |
Date: September 10th, 2025 10:16 PM Author: Gary's Economics Shooter was trying to dome Charlie, bullet drop got him in the neck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253130) |
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Date: September 10th, 2025 10:30 PM Author: bloomington (🦬) It actually got him in his vest and ricocheted into his neck.
There is slowmo video on twitter showing this pretty clearly |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:10 AM Author: Israel Weapon Industries fuckin a (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253842) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:38 AM Author: Mainlining the $ecret Truth of the Univer$e (You = Privy to The Great Becumming™ = Welcum to The Goodie Room™) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253879) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:17 AM Author: Bullets, Random Bullets Lots of Mossad training to bounce a bullet perfectly like that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253854) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:18 AM Author: Israel Weapon Industries yeah theres no way even a Dorner type couldve pulled that off - this was elite training (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253855) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:38 AM Author: Mainlining the $ecret Truth of the Univer$e (You = Privy to The Great Becumming™ = Welcum to The Goodie Room™) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253880) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:14 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) He wasn't wearing a vest. He was wearing a Tshirt. Are people really this fucking dumb? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253941) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 8:41 AM Author: ....,.,.,.,.,..,,,,.,.,.,. I am not a ballistics expertmo (and haven’t seen any videos and demurely don’t want to) but how the hell does a bullet traveling at 2000 mph hit a body and not just continued on its course? I would think it would have just smashed through whatever it hit - not make a 90 degree turn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254379) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:00 AM Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,...,..,:,..,.. i am not a gunmo but that seems unlikely (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254450) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:19 AM Author: RSF's dead brother link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254513) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:12 AM Author: Dave Prole Looked like a slug from a 12g with a long barrel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253847) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:36 AM Author: Drunkard That would be a very good shot from 200 yards. And a crazy weapon to choose I am near certain it was a rifle as I discuss below. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253871) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:22 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) "very good shot from 200 yards"
Eh, sounds like it's pretty standard riflery for a basic Marine: https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2021/02/23/the-new-marine-corps-rifle-qualification-is-here/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
And they're not laying on the roof of a building with a scope. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 8:45 AM Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐) He's saying that would be an exceptional shot from a shotgun (which is true) which points towards it more likely being a rifle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254390) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:17 AM Author: tiers EPAH doesn't understand things like the difference between guns and how submarines work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254506) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 11:08 AM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. No. Just no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254988) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:15 AM Author: hank_scorpio impossible to say but any rifle from that range would produce that kind of wound, could be a .223 or a 30.06, probably not the later though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253851) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:17 AM Author: Israel Weapon Industries doesnt sound like a 30 aught
but too much damage for a .243, and if it ricocheted off vest thats just an absurdly well placed shot especially if windy
imagine if he got domed live like that fuckin a |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:25 AM Author: Drunkard It seems to me that the video was sufficiently effective as is. I don’t think you can tell what caliber of rifle from the video. It could be anything from .223 and up to .338 lapua (I doubt it a .338 or 300 winmag or anything like that). No second shot is vaguely informative as it makes it marginally more likely the shooter used a bolt action which makes it marginally more likely it was more like a 30 caliber or derivative of a 30 caliber: .308/7.62 NATO, .30-06 or necked down versions of one of those (e.g. .243 which is a necked down .308). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253861) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:26 AM Author: hank_scorpio I have a hard time believing it ricocheted of a vest, that would be wild (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253863) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:33 AM Author: Drunkard I have not seen that video. Link? I will say it did look like an odd shot placement/angle impact but hard to tell. When you shoot things (hunting or people) odd things sometimes happen. It would be wild if the shooter hit him in the plate carrier (which is a perfect shot for shooting someone without a vest) and it did bounce off and hit his neck. [EDIT: I now have seen the video and I am still not sure what happened]. However, a common answer is usually correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253865) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:35 AM Author: Bullets, Random Bullets There is a vid on X where you can clearly see what looks like a bullet bouncing off his right shoulder before hitting his left neck. You also see his body armor shake as if shot in the chest. https://x.com/cottusmarcus/status/1965884758585651384 https://x.com/TheTunniverse/status/1965899972328804823
His shirt goes flying before it hits the neck. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:37 AM Author: Drunkard Wow. Not sure exactly what happened, but the hole take a split second to start bleeding and a rifle bullet will move fabric as it goes by. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253874) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:45 AM Author: Bullets, Random Bullets It doesn't make sense. It really does look like a ricochet. A lot of witnesses said it looked like he was shot in the chest. It really does look like it bounces back up into the neck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253890) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:47 AM Author: Drunkard See the pic below, but where is the hole in his t-shirt if it hit center of mass and bounced up? I was convinced it was a ricochet but now I am not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253895) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:29 PM Author: Emperor CRISPR Chad von Neumann III It looked to me like he might have been wearing a DJI type pod microphone under his shirt since they are ubiquitous for social media filming and he wouldn't necessarily have the PA systems audio for later sound bites. And that's what got "ricocheted" in those few frames (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49255464) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:37 AM Author: hank_scorpio body armor doesn't cover the right shoulder, you can get a plate that gets most of your chest but anything on the shoulder is just nylon, and he didn't look to be wearing a plate, soft armor is nothing against actual rifles also (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253875) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:42 AM Author: Drunkard There does not appear to be a hole in his shirt where the plate would be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253887) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:05 AM Author: Dave Prole You can see a hole form if you slow down the first video (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253923) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:42 AM Author: Bullets, Random Bullets https://x.com/TheTunniverse/status/1965899972328804823 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253888) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:46 AM Author: Drunkard Admittedly we are talking about a very small bullet, but I don’t see a hole in the T-shirt where the plate carrier would be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253893) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:02 AM Author: Bullets, Random Bullets How do you explain the thing that looks exactly like a bullet go to his right shoulder and then appear to change directions and move toward his neck? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253911) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:04 AM Author: hank_scorpio the angle is upwards so everything is headed in that vector from your point of view and once it hits his entire body tenses faster than it ever has before and it all gets hard to see (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253918) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:21 AM Author: Bullets, Random Bullets Doesn't explain shoulder bullet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253951) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:52 AM Author: hank_scorpio look at his cheeks moving there, I think he's just whiplashing from a pretty bad impact (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253901) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: charles XII The idea of 30-06 ricocheting doesn’t track with me no matter what the video “shows.” Ricochets are more likely when there are Angles involved and you don’t hit something head on imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254536) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:18 PM Author: Drunkard I tried to find a video of a bullet going off of a plate and could not get anything close. Then I went to armor videos and stats for battleships, and there is no way assuming it scales and even assuming a curved plate (which is a big assumption) and even assuming Kirk was wearing a cheap steel plate (an even bigger assumption) and that it was both steel and curved (another assumption). I don’t think it ricocheted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49255189) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: Bullets, Random Bullets In the frame by frame you can see how the bullet on his right shoulder turns and heads up to the neck area. There's literally a frame where it's right in between where you first see it appear and the cavitation wound. It literally travels visibly frame by frame. Watch it in slo mo and pause it when the bullet is in between the two areas.
You can agree that something that looks like a bullet appears on his right shoulder, moves towards the cavitation, and then disappears as his neck hole explodes. This is provable with the video evidence. It's indisputable. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:03 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) "When you shoot things (hunting or people) odd things sometimes happen."
Okay boys, we're dealing with a poster who knows both about shooting whitetail does and humans. If you're smart you'll tread lightly around this fellow. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:08 AM Author: hank_scorpio when looking at a bullet wound do you not think analogs are a useful point of reference? For instance I have shot a hog weighing about 250 lbs in the face and seen how that went, do you not think that is relevant information? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253931) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:13 AM Author: Drunkard Gee wiz, I wonder if a weapon that is effective at shooting soft skinned mammals between 100-300lbs like deer and hogs might have some other relevance …. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253938) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:19 PM Author: Drunkard Not bad if I do say so myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49255193) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:38 AM Author: JB Woodweld 6.5 Creedmoor was the caliber used (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253877) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:41 AM Author: Drunkard Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253883) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 4:12 AM Author: JB Woodweld The suspect is cornered right now. Rifle recovered already. Should be in custody in the next few hours. Will update as I’m updated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254069) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 8:59 AM Author: Drunkard Thank. Update? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254446) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:45 AM Author: Israel Weapon Industries arent Hornadys mostly subsonics?
fuck that is a pro caliber bullet if so |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:53 AM Author: hank_scorpio this is nonsense and it is sad some people might think it isn't, hornady makes bullets, random bullets, they are mostly popular with reloaders who aren't even buying cartridges, just the bullets, and there is no such thing as a "pro caliber" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253903) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:58 AM Author: Israel Weapon Industries huh? 6.5 Creedmor is the Militarys Special Operations Command newly adopted caliber
last time you used one? never heard of anyone using this outside of Alaska for huge game or competitive long range shooting competitons
It's literally a pro caliber bullet and its designed to go subsonic after 1300 yards and push cartridges to the limit |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:02 AM Author: hank_scorpio you said "aren't hornady's mostly subsonics" that is a nonsensical phrase, hornady's are all sorts of things and subsonic has nothing to do with 6.5 creedmoor |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:00 AM Author: Drunkard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254448) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:04 AM Author: Israel Weapon Industries https://www.twz.com/land/secret-service-eyeing-new-6-5mm-designated-marksman-rifles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253921) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:06 AM Author: Israel Weapon Industries something like this most likely if trained sniper
https://www.horizonarmsresearch.com/product/har-sniper-rifle-system-6-5-creedmoor/ |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:45 AM Author: Drunkard YouTube is suppressing all the gun guy videos which are usually the best analysis of these things. So annoying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253891) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:48 AM Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die looked like a hunting rifle to me. totally knocked the shit out of his body in addition to leaving a huge hole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253896) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:55 AM Author: hank_scorpio for a guy to walk away the most likely scenario is a bolt action with a short barrel and a folding stock, you could store that in a very regular bag in about 3 seconds and not worry about casings, I think .300 blackout would make a lot of sense but it really could be anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253905) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:13 AM Author: Drunkard One shot lends to bolt action or, you know, he saw the hit and said that did it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254491) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:10 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitchbois) Gun nerds ITT talking about the particular bullet. It's not a super-long shot. Any rifle with a decent shooter would do.
More interesting is how he concealed the gun and disappeared. Makes me suspect a short barrel and a folding stock, but even still he'd need to be carrying a bag. Most likely Mossad or Russia. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:11 AM Author: Drunkard You can take an AR into upper and lower and put it in a back pack/computer bag in a few seconds. A lot of semi auto rifles are similar. A bolt action, not so much although I am sure there are those out there. Folding stock only matters if you don’t take it apart.
Analysis is a was the shot was more like 144 yards, not 200 yards. That’s a chip shot (ironically or not the same distance as the TRUMP shot). jeffostroff on youtube (the only gun guy video I found). |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:54 AM Author: daniel gay luis It was .300 blackout IMO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49253998) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 3:50 AM Author: Drunkard Why? Because you don’t think there was a supersonic crack? Hard to tell from the videos and shit audio but I think there was one, but a 300 blackout and a can (silencer) would be on my shortlist of things to use.
I NEED MY YOUTUBE GUN AUTISTS TO ANALYZE THIS |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:16 AM Author: charles XII It was a .30-06 according to the ATF poast. The bullet drop is what got him in the neck imo. Over 2x the muzzle energy of .223 iirc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254503) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 10:10 AM Author: OldHLSDude He may have been trying for the chest. Since he was shooting downhill from an elevated position bullet drop is less. Intentionally trying to make a head or neck shot is not a great idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254747) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 10:16 AM Author: Drunkard And who knows how well sited the gun actually was. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49254785) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:20 PM Author: charles XII Imo it kind of is a good idea. His Head was wide due to skull expansion. And the head is at the center of the body and the shooter didn’t sight in perfectly. He doesn’t know he’s exactly 200 yards away without a rangefinder. So an indeterminate amount of bullet drop puts him at center of mass or a neck shot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49255197) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:50 PM Author: Drunkard Google maps makes range finding irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49255325) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 10:12 AM Author: Drunkard A .30-06 Mauser “imported” talk about a gun that would be very difficult to trace ….
A random hunting rifle initially sold before any records, maybe never went though an FFL ….
Maybe a model 66? |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:50 PM Author: Drunkard Seems from the pic it is modern. Looks like an M18. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2),#49255328) |