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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
appetizing honey-headed office death wish
  12/16/25
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Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
grizzly effete cuckoldry spot
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
appetizing honey-headed office death wish
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
grizzly effete cuckoldry spot
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
appetizing honey-headed office death wish
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
grizzly effete cuckoldry spot
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
appetizing honey-headed office death wish
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
grizzly effete cuckoldry spot
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
appetizing honey-headed office death wish
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
grizzly effete cuckoldry spot
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Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank
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appetizing honey-headed office death wish
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
vermilion vigorous gas station toaster
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
appetizing honey-headed office death wish
  12/16/25
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vermilion vigorous gas station toaster
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
swashbuckling library
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
appetizing honey-headed office death wish
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Jet-lagged casino psychic
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
appetizing honey-headed office death wish
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
mahogany massive french chef
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Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank
  12/17/25
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Ebony keepsake machete university
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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Ebony keepsake machete university
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Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank
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Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
grizzly effete cuckoldry spot
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
trip private investor gaming laptop
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: grizzly effete cuckoldry spot

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: grizzly effete cuckoldry spot

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: grizzly effete cuckoldry spot

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: grizzly effete cuckoldry spot

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: grizzly effete cuckoldry spot

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: vermilion vigorous gas station toaster

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: vermilion vigorous gas station toaster



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: swashbuckling library

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Jet-lagged casino psychic

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2),#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: mahogany massive french chef

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2),#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Ebony keepsake machete university

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: aromatic henna home azn

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: appetizing honey-headed office death wish



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Ebony keepsake machete university



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house tank



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: grizzly effete cuckoldry spot

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: trip private investor gaming laptop

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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