suppose that a few of them tweeted out predictions of something bad that was about to happen. that's not an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy, is it?

[i initially wrote that that Tyler discussed his plan to shoot Tyler.]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5775383&forum_id=2),#49272089)

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so if there was a group of 20 or so people who were texting with Tyler and if they knew about the plan to shoot [edit: Kirk], what else is necessary for a conspiracy charge? some overt act?

suppose that a few of them tweeted out predictions of something bad that was about to happen. that's not an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy, is it?

[i initially wrote that that Tyler discussed his plan to shoot Tyler.]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5775383&forum_id=2#49272089)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5775383&forum_id=2),#49272546)

but agreement to do what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5775383&forum_id=2),#49272108)

For the more general federal conspiracy statute, you explicitly do need an overt act in the 10th circuit, so you'd be even further under OP's hypo.

2.16 CONSPIRACY TO DEPRIVE PERSON OF CIVIL

RIGHTS 18 U.S.C. § 241

The defendant is charged in count ————— with a violation

of 18 U.S.C. section 241.

This law makes it a crime for two or more persons to conspire

to [injure] [oppress] [threaten] [intimidate] someone in the free

exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the

Constitution or laws of the United States.

To find the defendant guilty of this crime you must be

convinced that the government has proved each of the following

beyond a reasonable doubt:

First: the defendant knowingly agreed with another to

[injure] [oppress] [threaten] [intimidate] one or more persons;

and

Second: in doing so, the defendant intended to [hinder]

[prevent] [interfere with] [name of person]’s exercise or enjoyment

of [his] [her] right [name right, e.g., to vote], which is a right

secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States.

[Third: include any statutory enhancement element, e.g.,

[name of person] died as a result of acts committed in furtherance

of the conspiracy.]

[The government need not prove that the defendant intended

for [name of person] to die. It must prove that [name of person]’s

death was a foreseeable result of the defendant’s conduct.]

2.19 CONSPIRACY 18 U.S.C. § 371

The defendant is charged in count ————— with a violation

of 18 U.S.C. section 371.

This law makes it a crime to conspire to commit an offense

against the United States.

To find the defendant guilty of this crime you must be

convinced that the government has proved each of the following

beyond a reasonable doubt:

First: the defendant agreed with at least one other person to

violate the law.

Second: one of the conspirators engaged in at least one overt

act furthering the conspiracy’s objective.

Third: the defendant knew the essential objective of the

conspiracy.

Fourth: the defendant knowingly and voluntarily

participated in the conspiracy.

Fifth: there was interdependence among the members of the

conspiracy; that is, the members, in some way or manner,

intended to act together for their shared mutual benefit within the

scope of the conspiracy charged.

Comment

By the text of the statute, proof of an overt act is a required element in

conspiracies charged under 18 U.S.C. § 371. United States v. Martinez-Cruz,

836 F.3d 1305, 1313 n.6 (10th Cir. 2016) (quoting text of § 371 that requires

overt act). But proof of an overt act is not required in 21 U.S.C. § 846

conspiracies. United States v. Shabani, 513 U.S. 10,

13 (1994).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5775383&forum_id=2),#49272228)

that's my sense too, which is why i asked. tbf, i know next to nothing about this legal issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5775383&forum_id=2),#49272262)

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Aaron Sibarium

@aaronsibarium

EXCLUSIVE: The FBI is investigating social media posts by at least seven different accounts that appeared to indicate foreknowledge of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, according to three people familiar with the investigation and screenshots obtained by the Free Beacon.🧵

5:37 AM · Sep 15, 2025

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The posts—one of which referenced the date of Kirk’s assassination, September 10, more than a month before it took place—were all deleted in the days following the killing.

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Several of the accounts appear to belong to transgender individuals, and at least one of them followed suspect Tyler Robinson's roommate, with whom Robinson was allegedly in a relationship, on TikTok.

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The FBI has received archived copies of the posts, according to a person who flagged them for the agency. Screenshots of the posts have been circulating online but had not been previously authenticated.

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While the posts do not establish that any of the individuals knew or conspired with Robinson, the 22-year-old gunman who allegedly shot Kirk, several of them mention the conservative activist by name and fantasize about his death.

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"itd be funny if someone like charlie kirk got shot on september 10th LMAO," one X account posted on September 3.

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Another account posted on August 6—more than a month before the shooting—that "september 10th will be a very interesting day." After Kirk’s assassination, the account followed up: "I plead the fifth.

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The morbid quip was reposted by an account named "churbum75m (SAW TYLER JUNE 30)," who appears to follow Robinson’s roommate, Lance Twiggs, on TikTok, where Twiggs’s username is "lanclotl."

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Minutes after Kirk was pronounced dead, churbum75m posted on X: "WE FUCKING DID IT."

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Several of the accounts under investigation appear to be associated with LGBT subcultures. One individual, "Osamu bin Tezuka," used the X handle "

@fujoshincel

," a reference to a genre of anime that depicts romantic relationships between men.

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Another user, "

@NajraGalvz

," who had wished death to Kirk and predicted that "something big will happen" when he set foot on campus, had identified as nonbinary on X.

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And in a video posted on TikTok the night before the shooting, an individual who appears to be transgender wrote that "charles james kirk…does not know what’s coming tomorrow."

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"This isn’t a threat," the individual added. "It’s a promise."

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The investigation of the posts comes as the FBI is already examining whether pro-transgender groups knew about Robinson’s plan in advance. That probe, first reported by the New York Post, includes Armed Queers SLC, whose logo features high-caliber rifle bullets.

Aaron Sibarium

@aaronsibarium

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Minutes after Kirk was pronounced dead, churbum75m posted on X: "WE FUCKING DID IT."

Aaron Sibarium

@aaronsibarium

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Several of the accounts under investigation appear to be associated with LGBT subcultures. One individual, "Osamu bin Tezuka," used the X handle "

@fujoshincel

," a reference to a genre of anime that depicts romantic relationships between men.

Aaron Sibarium

@aaronsibarium

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7h

Another user, "

@NajraGalvz

," who had wished death to Kirk and predicted that "something big will happen" when he set foot on campus, had identified as nonbinary on X.

Aaron Sibarium

@aaronsibarium

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And in a video posted on TikTok the night before the shooting, an individual who appears to be transgender wrote that "charles james kirk…does not know what’s coming tomorrow."

Aaron Sibarium

@aaronsibarium

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"This isn’t a threat," the individual added. "It’s a promise."

Aaron Sibarium

@aaronsibarium

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7h

The investigation of the posts comes as the FBI is already examining whether pro-transgender groups knew about Robinson’s plan in advance. That probe, first reported by the New York Post, includes Armed Queers SLC, whose logo features high-caliber rifle bullets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5775383&forum_id=2),#49272278)