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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Concupiscible henna corner
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
twinkling half-breed
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
well-lubricated pisswyrm abode
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
twinkling half-breed
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
twinkling half-breed
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Concupiscible henna corner

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: brindle spot

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: brindle spot

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: brindle spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: brindle spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: brindle spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: brindle spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: brindle spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: brindle spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: brindle spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: brindle spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: brindle spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: twinkling half-breed

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: well-lubricated pisswyrm abode

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: twinkling half-breed

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: well-lubricated pisswyrm abode

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: twinkling half-breed

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle stag film corn cake

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Heady space associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Electric Business Firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Mustard haunting theater stage

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Racy Buck-toothed Temple Blood Rage

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: magical bisexual lay ratface

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle stag film corn cake

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: underhanded theatre

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: copper church psychic

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Hairraiser home

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49105022)