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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
floppy flushed macaca depressive
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
deep clown jew
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
floppy flushed macaca depressive
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
deep clown jew
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
deep clown jew
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
sienna territorial base ape
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
floppy flushed macaca depressive
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
floppy flushed macaca depressive
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
floppy flushed macaca depressive
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
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Racist Redneck from Alabama
  06/04/26
he's appropriately rated
Tripping Salmon Party Of The First Part
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
Green Cerebral Death Wish
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
clear hairraiser heaven
  04/05/26
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Vibrant glassy temple
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
startled anal hunting ground
  04/05/26
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Tripping Salmon Party Of The First Part
  04/05/26
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Low-t flickering step-uncle's house
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
disturbing pervert
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
cracking space
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
Amethyst swashbuckling sex offender coldplay fan
  04/06/26
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clear hairraiser heaven
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
Vibrant glassy temple
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
Amethyst swashbuckling sex offender coldplay fan
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
Vibrant glassy temple
  04/07/26
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Ricky
  06/04/26
do not google. there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or gr...
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Randy Johnson Clemmons Pedro Ryan Glavine Bab...
Ricky
  06/04/26
this career WAR. you got these right. 1. Cy Young+ (22)...
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tokens in abundance
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: floppy flushed macaca depressive

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796396)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796397)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: deep clown jew

He's undoubtedly top 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796399)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796405)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: floppy flushed macaca depressive

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796411)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796419)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: deep clown jew

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796426)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796432)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: deep clown jew

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796436)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven

all 3 above above ryan?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796437)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: sienna territorial base ape

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796451)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: floppy flushed macaca depressive

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796401)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven

he's def most high iq though, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796407)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: floppy flushed macaca depressive

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796409)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796413)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: floppy flushed macaca depressive

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796417)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796421)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 1:01 AM
Author: Racist Redneck from Alabama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49914293)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Tripping Salmon Party Of The First Part

he's appropriately rated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796444)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Green Cerebral Death Wish

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796446)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796448)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Vibrant glassy temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49797805)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: startled anal hunting ground

Pedro was better (than anyone).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796514)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Tripping Salmon Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796561)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: Low-t flickering step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49799608)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: disturbing pervert

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796569)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: cracking space

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49796577)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: Amethyst swashbuckling sex offender coldplay fan

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49797104)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: clear hairraiser heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49797818)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Vibrant glassy temple

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49797984)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Amethyst swashbuckling sex offender coldplay fan

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49798932)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Vibrant glassy temple

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49799605)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:17 AM
Author: Ricky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49914271)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:31 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


do not google.

there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or greater. name them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49914284)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:36 AM
Author: Ricky

Randy Johnson

Clemmons

Pedro

Ryan

Glavine

Babe Ruth

Scherzer

Seaver

cy Young

Maddux



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49914286)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:43 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


this career WAR. you got these right.

1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R

3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R

7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R

8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R

9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49914287)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:57 AM
Author: tokens in abundance
Subject: No Goog

Clayton Kershaw

Curt Schilling

Mariano Rivera

Bob Gibson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2),#49914292)