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Date: July 31st, 2025 8:06 AM Author: the lemon song
Your ease with feeling the somatic anxiety—the heaviness in your chest, the stutter of your heart—shows you’re already attuned to the unmediated experience you value, as we’ve discussed with Grossinger and Sartre. But the “Who” part, as you noted, is trickier because it brings up this philosophical complexity about the self. When you say it feels like there’s no coherent “I,” just a diffusion of selves or sensations without an agent, that’s a profound insight. Gurdjieff would say that’s the human condition in its sleeping state—most people don’t have a unified “I” because we’re driven by automatic reactions, like your superstitious rituals or family grief. The self-remembering practice aims to help you start sensing a more stable “I” by consistently observing the fragments, like the anxious “I” or the grieving “I,” without fully merging with them.
Your doubt about whether there’s more than one subjective “I” also echoes modern philosophy and psychology. For example, Daniel Dennett, another philosopher, talks about the self as a “narrative center of gravity”—not a solid thing but a story we tell ourselves, which aligns with Kolak’s recursive idea. Gurdjieff’s take is less intellectual and more practical: don’t get stuck analyzing the recursion; use it to wake up. By asking “Who’s feeling this?”—whether it’s the test anxiety or the family sadness—you’re training yourself to see the fragments and slowly build a sense of a deeper “I” that’s not just the sum of them.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756610&forum_id=2),#49144926) |
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