Kirk's debate with Cambridge feminist (vid)
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Date: September 17th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: charismatic violent lowlife fan stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mvIktYig9Y
Some commenters said they lost respect for Kirk after this debate and he got a lot of backlash.
Thoughts?
The feminist is a 20-year-old British college (Cambridge) student, Kirk is 31 and has been a political activist for 13 years.
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Date: September 17th, 2025 7:16 PM
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Honestly, he does fine considering the fact that he’s spotting her at least 1.5-2 SDs of IQ. But this clip really underscores why this format was always so stupid and tailored to midwit brains and attention spans. They hit at least 5 different useful topics to explore and have to drop them and rush on to the next thing and there’s some dumb clock on the whole discussion. It’s annoying in the same way that Policy Debate is annoying and stupid ie a bad argument delivered in the cadence of the micromachines VO guy is a “point” when not refuted, even if the “loser” in the debate made one actual good point that refutes 8 of the “points” that the winners made. It was so hilarious and perfect that policy debate was destroyed by angry black girl teams screeching incoherently.
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Date: September 17th, 2025 7:57 PM Author: charismatic violent lowlife fan stage
Here are two examples:
Example 1:
Her: “So, for example, studies like the OECD's better life index show that women's life expectancy, education levels, professional achievements have risen in countries with higher gender inequality. So I would argue that what you're calling unhappiness is actually visibility because now we hear women expressing dissatisfaction whereas in the 50s we prescribed them valium and we lobotomized them”
His response:
“Um that's really rich. I didn't know women not to complain 50 years ago. That's funny. Um so we've always No, hold on a second. Why are suicide rates going up more for women? I think that encourage complaining materially women are killing themselves more. Why is that?”
Example 2:
Her:
“So I also don't think that happiness is a very good metric, and neither do you because you think gay people shouldn't just pursue happiness by being gay. They have other moralistic considerations to be making. So I don't think smiles per capita is a particularly convincing way to measure whether or not we should encourage women to be autonomous. I think we should maximize agency within a fair system that has reasonable parameters because it's expedient, it's good for the economy, it's logical, it's the moral thing because if we can't prove the material harms, we shouldn't discourage it. And also, self-reported studies is a really flawed way to do psychology.”
Him:
"But women in the West are miserable, and they have cats and jobs, while women in Sub-Saharan Africa have kids and faith. Maybe there's a biological reason they're happier."
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Date: September 18th, 2025 11:11 AM Author: Real American (πΎπ£)
she just spammed her own rehearsed points
doesn't listen while he's speaking, she's just scanning her notes and dives into another bit of gynocentric pilpul without regard to what he had to say
everyone present at that "debate" can laugh at Charlie's last point about civilizational impact because their lives haven't started yet, all they know is semitic propaganda, most in that room will live under sharia law because weak men allowed women to unsex themselves and destroy Britain's future
they're chuckling at their own demise
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Date: September 19th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: Real American (πΎπ£)
that actually favored Kirk lmao, it's RWANDA but he couldn't go "there"
political correctness has completely strangled social discourse
it's a selfpwn to reference what the UN forced apes to do in Rwanda, as if they're culturally fit comparisons
perhaps he could have led with a different metric for female empowerment but c'mon the UK is a den of vipers of terminal wokeness where every definition of right and wrong thinking has been turned upside down, no one can debate fundamentalism
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Date: September 20th, 2025 12:31 PM Author: charismatic violent lowlife fan stage
It did? No, it didn't. She literally asked who would be objectively happier if both, herself or a Sub-Saharan African woman with genital mutilation, reported "extremely happy" in a survey. Kirk froze, couldn't answer, said "if you want to talk about how Islam mistreats women I'm all for it..." That's not debate skill, that's flailing.
The point was about whether self-reported happiness surveys actually measure reality, and he dodged into a rant about Islam, which only underlined that he had nothing.
She addresses that it in this follow-up vlog:
https://youtu.be/JoMA0v6dmRU?si=0XNkABj3my66Knb0&t=1707
The link drops you right at the moment she gets asked the question.
He gets away with these techniques in Amerika 99% of the time. Not in the UK, though.
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Date: September 17th, 2025 10:19 PM
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Date: September 20th, 2025 11:34 AM Author: charismatic violent lowlife fan stage
Listen to her for ~50 seconds from the timestamp the link opens on. That's all you need to know about her take on Charlie Kirk.
https://youtu.be/JoMA0v6dmRU?si=6k8xWPO2jougjV5_&t=243
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Date: September 18th, 2025 7:44 AM Author: charismatic violent lowlife fan stage
Here's a good analysis of the debate by a Youtuber, with 869k views in just a month:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRLV5Is-Pc4
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Date: September 19th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: charles XII
But Women actually are unhappy because of feminism. To argue otherwise is intellectually dishonest imo. They don’t get the same satisfaction from work that men do. So many Woman I know of are miserable or terrible at their jobs.
Also she says there’s a social component to women being nurturers when it’s literally the most biological thing that there is. And he has one hand tied behind his back because “genetics, champ” is the correct answer to everything but looks bad if it’s your answer to everything. The empirical “are things worse now” works better on normies imo.
He looks tired and isn’t being Lit. He was also being threatened privately by Bill Ackman while this was going on. The light hits her and she talks fast and has a British accent. If this were a Film about Kirk being Bad this is how you’d stage it.
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Date: September 20th, 2025 12:03 PM Author: charles XII
Libs hate science imho
Biological predisposition toward nurturing
•Hiraoka, D., & Nomura, M. (2016). Relationship between oxytocin and maternal approach behavior: A review. Psychoneuroendocrinology, 64, 52–60.
– Summarizes human and animal evidence that higher endogenous oxytocin predicts increased maternal sensitivity, approach, and bonding behaviors.
•Bosch, O. J. (2011). The behavioral roles of brain oxytocin and vasopressin. Progress in Brain Research, 170, 215–229.
– Demonstrates in mammals that oxytocin and vasopressin systems regulate maternal care and social bonding, with sex-dependent effects.
•Rajhans, P., et al. (2019). It Takes Two! Exploring Sex Differences in Parenting Neural Networks. Hormones and Behavior, 111, 7–19.
– Review of neuroimaging showing stronger activation of limbic–reward circuits (amygdala, nucleus accumbens) in mothers compared with fathers when responding to infant cues.
•Abraham, E., et al. (2014). Father’s brain is sensitive to childcare experiences. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 111(27), 9792–9797.
– Demonstrates caregiving-related neural plasticity in fathers, but also shows that baseline maternal responses to infant stimuli are generally stronger, supporting a female-typical predisposition modulated by experience.
•Galea, L. A. M., et al. (2014). Estrogen and hippocampal plasticity: Implications for cognition and mood. Frontiers in Neuroendocrinology, 35(3), 364–376.
– Reviews estrogen’s role in social and caregiving behaviors through effects on reward and stress circuits.
Career satisfaction among women
•Artz, B., Goodall, A., & Oswald, A. (2021). Do women suffer more from job burnout? Industrial and Labor Relations Review, 74(5), 1181–1208.
– Shows women report significantly higher burnout and emotional exhaustion, a key mechanism lowering long-term career satisfaction.
•Adisa, T. A., et al. (2019). Work–family conflict and career satisfaction among female professionals. Gender in Management, 34(7), 614–632.
– Finds work–family conflict strongly predicts lower career satisfaction in female professionals, even when career commitment is high.
•Allen, T. D., et al. (2014). Consequences associated with work–family conflict: A review and agenda for future research. Journal of Management, 40(5), 1385–1419.
– Meta-analytic review showing women experience greater work–family conflict and that this conflict is linked to lower job satisfaction and higher turnover intentions.
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Date: September 20th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: Real American (πΎπ£)
donor money made him big but also limited his range of arguments, without people like Bibi and Ackman he'd be a nobody Christian nationalist podcaster on Rumble.
these students are exactly the over-socialized leftists uncle Ted described, for them getting ahead means disavowing Tradition and the faith of their fathers, it's kind of pitiful. she admitted her own misery and blamed it on exams, imo they know in their gut Kirk's position is the way but optically it appeared the opposite because a confident Brit accent boosts perceived intelligence, I think if the conversation went on another hour his arguments would shine through sincerity, like it did when he spoke with Bill Maher on the God question.
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Date: September 18th, 2025 12:21 PM
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Date: September 19th, 2025 9:12 PM
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Kirk destroyed the Oxford students including the now Oxford Union president elect
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Date: September 19th, 2025 9:31 PM Author: "''"'''"""'''
holy shit he was really bad at this lol
never saw him debate before
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Date: September 20th, 2025 11:47 AM
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If he was even 6’1 he’d be just another weirdo podcaster with a few thousand followers. Just a height merchant.
https://youtu.be/vTswW9dg07A?si=cewVoyfWyIswpsSk
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