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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Turquoise Spectacular Pocket Flask
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just walk outside bro
amber galvanic macaca
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
onyx whorehouse
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Swashbuckling amethyst halford lettuce
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
onyx whorehouse
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Swashbuckling amethyst halford lettuce
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
laughsome mediation
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
iridescent bipolar menage
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Turquoise Spectacular Pocket Flask

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: amber galvanic macaca

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: amber galvanic macaca

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: amber galvanic macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: amber galvanic macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: amber galvanic macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: amber galvanic macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49172980)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49421817)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49421862)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49421881)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49422254)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: amber galvanic macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49424474)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49425035)



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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49425543)



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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49427654)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49436681)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49436785)



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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49439167)



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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49441985)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Swashbuckling amethyst halford lettuce

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: onyx whorehouse

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Swashbuckling amethyst halford lettuce

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: onyx whorehouse

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Swashbuckling amethyst halford lettuce

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Ultramarine Mind-boggling State

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: azure filthy dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: multi-colored lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: razzle yellow kitty cat selfie

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: erotic pisswyrm

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Glittery party of the first part

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Ultramarine Mind-boggling State

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: laughsome mediation

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: iridescent bipolar menage

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Jet-lagged Charcoal Market Goyim

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: beady-eyed space half-breed

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49421865)