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Reading a Taft speech highlights how far politician verbosity has fallen in a ce

ntury I thought these Ivy Leagues would teach speechcraft o...
Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan
  08/11/25
you can't even use multi-clause/nested rhetorical devices or...
Galvanic mint indian lodge jew
  08/11/25
Even just in computer politicking I've found such little eff...
Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan
  08/11/25
Granted Taft was supposedly an excellent speaker in the era ...
Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan
  08/11/25
This was the speech in question and I had it pulled up in th...
Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan
  08/11/25
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adulterous french chef
  08/11/25
this was the generation that passed the 16th and 19th amendm...
Shaky space
  08/11/25
The 19th really should've been on a state by state basis huh...
Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan
  08/11/25
You don't hate simps enough
Slimy Corner
  08/11/25
this isnt just politicians. it's TV. i just watched bbc civi...
Bright beady-eyed property
  08/11/25
That series is sooo 180
Slimy Corner
  08/11/25


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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:36 AM
Author: Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan

ntury

I thought these Ivy Leagues would teach speechcraft of a higher quality but even silver-tongued Obama needed a dozen full time Harvard tier writers and editors to be as eloquent as he was while standing at the podium

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49174051)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:38 AM
Author: Galvanic mint indian lodge jew

you can't even use multi-clause/nested rhetorical devices or hypotheticals anymore, because you will lose the audience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49174052)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:42 AM
Author: Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan

Even just in computer politicking I've found such little effect from properly matching my diction to the feeling trying to be expressed that I've become much more rustic in how I put across my thoughts. He uses "pusillanimous" and not only does it come across as unpretentious but it is called for with accuracy within context

And it's not all to do with the format or technologies either; it's from a genuine and serious reduction in the quality of human capital available for weighing in on these matters, imo

I read his 1909 inaugural address either and not only was it well placed and coated in excellent to the point diction it was *profound* in a way we haven't experienced since 2016 TRUMP's crass and pithy denudings of malfeasors within the party system. And what does that end up saying about the nation? Nothing good!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49174053)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:53 AM
Author: Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan

Granted Taft was supposedly an excellent speaker in the era if in authorship though not in delivery afaik

But still it makes a man feel like weeping over what's all been lost to the Radio and Television's various compressions of essential expressions of the natures of the matters at hand

Go back a little further, not even but a couple decades, and even no name Senators stationed in Podunk Iowa and Fishwife Rhode Island are dropping these Cincinnatus and Cicero style several page long albeit still concise orations about even the most mundane of tax and legal matters before their respective legislative bodies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49174054)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:59 AM
Author: Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan

This was the speech in question and I had it pulled up in the context of historical precedents for US tariffs

https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/presidential-speeches/march-4-1909-inaugural-address

It's an excellent speech, very informative on the topics he's addressing, though not as punchy or carmine as his old rival Bryan's typical fare

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49174056)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: adulterous french chef



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Date: August 11th, 2025 9:34 AM
Author: Shaky space

this was the generation that passed the 16th and 19th amendments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49174318)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:20 PM
Author: Sick Dull Site Coldplay Fan

The 19th really should've been on a state by state basis huh

The 16th is not all that objectionable but it did represent a grave shift in the thinking of the American State

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49175580)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:25 PM
Author: Slimy Corner

You don't hate simps enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49175590)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: Bright beady-eyed property

this isnt just politicians. it's TV. i just watched bbc civilisation with kenneth clark from the late 60s.

this was popular TV for the masses, but his manner of speaking would be incomprehensible to 95% of viewers now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49175583)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Slimy Corner

That series is sooo 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761030&forum_id=2),#49175586)