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Read Revelation Chapter 20 to understand what’s going on

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lsd
  10/18/25
I just read it but I have not read the whole book. I need to...
Diane Rehm talking dirty
  10/18/25
I don't personally think Revelations is canonical.
Rape as a service private equity naglfar
  10/18/25
Explain. Is this a mainstream view?
Crow
  10/18/25
It's existence in the NT juxtaposed against the works of Pau...
Rape as a service private equity naglfar
  10/18/25
Interesting ty
Crow
  10/18/25
As for today? "Give me control over a nation’s c...
Rape as a service private equity naglfar
  10/18/25
If you do not view the Bible as direct Word and Revelation f...
lsd
  10/18/25
I don't because God gave me critical thinking skills and an ...
Rape as a service private equity naglfar
  10/18/25
I view Revelations as a contextually-based apocryphal warnin...
Rape as a service private equity naglfar
  10/18/25


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Date: October 18th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: lsd



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358518)



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Date: October 18th, 2025 8:07 PM
Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (🐿️ )

I just read it but I have not read the whole book. I need to do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358545)



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Date: October 18th, 2025 8:13 PM
Author: Rape as a service private equity naglfar

I don't personally think Revelations is canonical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358555)



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Date: October 18th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Crow

Explain. Is this a mainstream view?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358568)



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Date: October 18th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: Rape as a service private equity naglfar

It's existence in the NT juxtaposed against the works of Paul and the four primary authors of the gospels doesn't really make a lot of sense wrt importance to the actual teachings of christ especially on "what's to come". This was the opinion of one of my old religion teachers, a continental theology PhD dood

There's also some debate over authorship and as I recall some protestant sects question its inclusion as something other than "interesting apocrypha". Personally I've read it as a political-religious castigation of historical Rome (the Roman imperial apparatus exiled John of Patmos for his teachings and that's going to be the main piece of context that it's written within). The "Great City that Reignth over the Kings of Earth" is obviously an allegory for Rome's particular breed of imperialism and iirc Hardt & Negri comment on this in some capacity in that "Empire" book I've linked and written about here a few times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358572)



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Date: October 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Crow

Interesting ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358592)



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Date: October 18th, 2025 8:44 PM
Author: Rape as a service private equity naglfar

As for today?

"Give me control over a nation’s currency, and I care not who makes its laws."

-Mayer Amschel Rothschild

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358609)



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Date: October 18th, 2025 8:44 PM
Author: lsd

If you do not view the Bible as direct Word and Revelation from God, it’s possible to dismiss any part of the Bible on similarly capricious and arbitrary grounds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358610)



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Date: October 18th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: Rape as a service private equity naglfar

I don't because God gave me critical thinking skills and an abundance of parallel historical sources to draw on

The Jews have the better idea on this tbh but also lean the other way too hard where they write up all of this stuff that's effectively just rabbinical circlejerk commentaries over it and miss the fundamental tenets, which are what were more or less what were given from heaven. If you could time travel and ask Luke or John at the scribe's desk "Is this verbatim the word of God, divinely inspired, your feeble hand of rotting flesh and bone the conduit for something Definitively Perfect" they'd probably drop to their knees and say with obsequious and righteous humility "No, of course not, but it's the best I can do". With context and a little understanding that's more than sufficient as a thing to channel what God wanted then and what God wants now, but through a hundred rewrites and translations of the source texts you'd be mad to think that it's truly perfect and all entirely from **legible** revelation. Revelation itself is on a spectrum but I'm not doing any Science on day 1 of the sabbath

One thing at Protestant school that Catholic school completely lacked was the idea that by reading Scripture you're effectively engaging in a two-way dialogue with God and the inspired authors and you aren't supposed to take it as a biblical literalism edict but instead a challenge to your own knowledge and beliefs as well as your ability to interpret what's in front of you 1. in historical context 2. in today's context and 3. outside both, in your personal capacity to estimate what is truly "of the unchanging and eternal divine" about this or that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358630)



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Date: October 18th, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: Rape as a service private equity naglfar

I view Revelations as a contextually-based apocryphal warning that has elements that transcend the times and I read it as John of Patmos sort of Allen Ginsberg-Howling about Rome, Roman oppression, and the more universal black and grey and occasionally even white forces that spur it on. It's a book of poetry, closer to Solomon's Song of Songs than it is to the Egyptian-inspired records of Numbers or the flat sorta Platonic reading of the gospel in John

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787587&forum_id=2),#49358668)