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Ever wonder why 95% of "Great Literature" is utterly retarded and boring?

i still, from time to time, think about this, and resent my ...
Crystalline erotic plaza
  01/11/26
now imagine the shitlib literature theyre reading in HS now ...
trip mexican
  01/11/26
This is an idiotic take. Literature is truly beautiful and a...
Hateful vivacious knife keepsake machete
  01/11/26
I toss the literature boy! I toss it like rubbish!
thirsty coffee pot
  01/11/26
Subtle Ethan Frome bashing
maize fear-inspiring gas station
  01/11/26
By any measure, I was probably in the 99th percentile of hig...
impressive beady-eyed newt mother
  01/11/26
The black literature was even worse
maize fear-inspiring gas station
  01/11/26
Invisible man was pretty good IRC
Appetizing bright dilemma
  01/12/26
"I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school l...
Emerald institution fat ankles
  01/12/26
he sounds smart to me
jade famous landscape painting pit
  01/12/26
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sable exciting temple filthpig
  01/12/26
It's bonkers how millions of high school kids are forced to ...
impressive beady-eyed newt mother
  01/11/26
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irradiated kitchen liquid oxygen
  01/11/26
Every American school child should be forced to slog their w...
Hateful vivacious knife keepsake machete
  01/11/26
the classics are one of the few redeeming aspects of the mod...
burgundy blood rage native
  01/11/26
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Frozen place of business
  01/12/26
ok so what do the real scholars, who have spent time with la...
sable exciting temple filthpig
  01/12/26
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Frozen place of business
  01/12/26
that's all fine. i just think kids should be exposed to the...
sable exciting temple filthpig
  01/12/26
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Frozen place of business
  01/12/26
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sable exciting temple filthpig
  01/12/26
ok let's keep teaching them spanish so they can order diarrh...
burgundy blood rage native
  01/14/26
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Frozen place of business
  01/14/26
Latin and Greek are dumb and gay.
cowardly school
  01/12/26
the dense unintelligible prose is 180 because it lets them k...
big stain range
  01/11/26
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out-of-control rusted genital piercing
  01/12/26
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snowy comical psychic base
  01/12/26
I like this theory
mint passionate hairy legs
  01/12/26
(flunked matrix algebra)
Sadistic Sound Barrier
  01/12/26
"In 2010, a national U.S. Department of Education study...
Aqua point half-breed
  01/12/26
not flame they should teach descriptive statistics as an int...
Sadistic Sound Barrier
  01/12/26
I thought it was more like “this shit is gay and for p...
big stain range
  01/14/26
The point is to give them all a reference point for having s...
Sadistic Sound Barrier
  01/11/26
Bro thats how you ended up pumo!
swashbuckling den
  01/11/26
It couldn't have anything to do with your intelligence.
yapping transparent home
  01/11/26
thread not going how OP expected? the western canon is 180,...
sable exciting temple filthpig
  01/11/26
american authors yes, you gotta read non-american
laughsome balding cumskin
  01/11/26
Retarded
Wine Charismatic Nursing Home People Who Are Hurt
  01/11/26
Moby Dick is 97590402001710103710
misanthropic iridescent resort
  01/11/26
Real retarded sir
mint passionate hairy legs
  01/12/26
I don’t think “great literature” is synony...
glittery orchid sex offender
  01/11/26
what books would you recommend instead ? id have paul val...
irradiated kitchen liquid oxygen
  01/11/26
Print capitalism has been a disaster for mankind
Sadistic Sound Barrier
  01/11/26
teachers should go before the school boards in open session...
ruby theater dysfunction
  01/11/26
Should students be required to read (after purchasing at ful...
Emerald institution fat ankles
  01/12/26
why do you write this way?
vengeful karate
  01/12/26
why do you write so much?
ruby theater dysfunction
  01/12/26
I can't stand the way contemporary authors write - telegraph...
curious boistinker space
  01/12/26
Since James Joyce and Sam Beckett, there hasn't been any Gre...
dark meetinghouse
  01/12/26
Nabokov, Greene, Ishiguro, maybe McEwan. Do they reach Joyc...
sable exciting temple filthpig
  01/12/26
Great Literature is defined as adding to the canon of the hu...
dark meetinghouse
  01/14/26
Im gay
Contagious brass hunting ground
  01/12/26
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irradiated kitchen liquid oxygen
  01/12/26
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Contagious brass hunting ground
  01/12/26
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Appetizing bright dilemma
  01/13/26
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Contagious brass hunting ground
  01/13/26
You only think this because English-language "great lit...
kink-friendly station incel
  01/14/26
totally agree that a lot of great literature is exactly that...
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  01/14/26
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Frozen place of business
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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: Crystalline erotic plaza

i still, from time to time, think about this, and resent my high school teachers for making me read those books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49581978)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: trip mexican

now imagine the shitlib literature theyre reading in HS now

the stuff we read aint perfect, but imagine hs english now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49581980)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:26 PM
Author: Hateful vivacious knife keepsake machete

This is an idiotic take. Literature is truly beautiful and ascended at times. It’s not some trifle to be tossed away like a piece of rubbish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582002)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: thirsty coffee pot

I toss the literature boy! I toss it like rubbish!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582036)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: maize fear-inspiring gas station

Subtle Ethan Frome bashing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582011)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: impressive beady-eyed newt mother

By any measure, I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school literature readers.

The only thing I took away from Ethan Frome was "wtf - why would they try to kill themselves by sledding? how stupid are these people that they thought this would work?"

What was the point of the average kids being forced to read this shit?

Wouldn't a Michael Chricton book capture their attention 10x more and present dramatic themes and philosophy in a much more understandable way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582022)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: maize fear-inspiring gas station

The black literature was even worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582047)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:41 PM
Author: Appetizing bright dilemma

Invisible man was pretty good IRC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584207)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:35 AM
Author: Emerald institution fat ankles

"I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school literature readers"

And I'm sure your grades (and subsequent academic success) reflected this reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582333)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: jade famous landscape painting pit

he sounds smart to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584177)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 7:44 PM
Author: sable exciting temple filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584673)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: impressive beady-eyed newt mother

It's bonkers how millions of high school kids are forced to read these books with story and themes unrecognizable to them with dense unintelliglbe prose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582013)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: irradiated kitchen liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582026)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: Hateful vivacious knife keepsake machete

Every American school child should be forced to slog their way through Moby Dick in 9th grade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582029)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:56 PM
Author: burgundy blood rage native

the classics are one of the few redeeming aspects of the modern american high school humanities curriculum. they should be reading this kind of material exclusively in addition to latin and greek. the problem is that they deviate from it.

their teachers surely fuck up the discourse but mere exposure is at least a lifeline to the few intellects worth salvaging. the remaining 99% are just in virtual daycare anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582078)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:33 AM
Author: Frozen place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582332)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: sable exciting temple filthpig

ok so what do the real scholars, who have spent time with latin and greek, say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582710)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:22 AM
Author: Frozen place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582749)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:02 AM
Author: sable exciting temple filthpig

that's all fine. i just think kids should be exposed to the ideas found in these works in english translation (per non-woke translators)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582955)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:09 AM
Author: Frozen place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582965)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:38 PM
Author: sable exciting temple filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584373)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:11 AM
Author: burgundy blood rage native

ok let's keep teaching them spanish so they can order diarrhea burritos from san antonio food trucks and communicate with their roofers. much more "practical."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49588267)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:59 AM
Author: Frozen place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49588335)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:49 AM
Author: cowardly school

Latin and Greek are dumb and gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582347)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:16 PM
Author: big stain range

the dense unintelligible prose is 180 because it lets them know how dumb they are. Losers should also be forced to take calculus. The education system is good at letting a person know how dumb they are if they don't disengage with it too early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582245)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:55 AM
Author: out-of-control rusted genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582348)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 2:56 AM
Author: snowy comical psychic base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582502)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: mint passionate hairy legs

I like this theory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584173)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: Sadistic Sound Barrier

(flunked matrix algebra)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584204)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:43 PM
Author: Aqua point half-breed

"In 2010, a national U.S. Department of Education study found that 80 percent of high school dropouts cited their inability to pass Algebra I as the primary reason for leaving school."

https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1013968

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584398)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:52 PM
Author: Sadistic Sound Barrier

not flame they should teach descriptive statistics as an introduction to algebra. But that would require math teachers to learn statistics, and that's illegal AFAICT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584436)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:15 AM
Author: big stain range

I thought it was more like “this shit is gay and for pussies” 😎

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49588273)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:25 PM
Author: Sadistic Sound Barrier

The point is to give them all a reference point for having some kind of cultural/national identity. You don't have to like any of it, you just have know the basic plot or how to pronounce the author's name. Mexicans love reading the classics so they can feel more European

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582258)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: swashbuckling den

Bro thats how you ended up pumo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582033)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: yapping transparent home

It couldn't have anything to do with your intelligence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582042)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: sable exciting temple filthpig

thread not going how OP expected? the western canon is 180, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582054)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: laughsome balding cumskin

american authors yes, you gotta read non-american

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582057)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:09 PM
Author: Wine Charismatic Nursing Home People Who Are Hurt

Retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582232)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:27 PM
Author: misanthropic iridescent resort

Moby Dick is 97590402001710103710

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582262)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: mint passionate hairy legs

Real retarded sir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584174)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: glittery orchid sex offender

I don’t think “great literature” is synonymous with most of the bullshit they made us read in hs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582060)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: irradiated kitchen liquid oxygen

what books would you recommend instead ?

id have paul valery monsieur teste and the remains of the day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582070)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:19 PM
Author: Sadistic Sound Barrier

Print capitalism has been a disaster for mankind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582251)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:23 PM
Author: ruby theater dysfunction

teachers should go before the school boards

in open session

and tell them the books they are going to require for each class

and why

before every school year, perhaps before every semester

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582254)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:36 AM
Author: Emerald institution fat ankles

Should students be required to read (after purchasing at full price) The Art of the Deal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582336)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 3:05 AM
Author: vengeful karate

why do you write this way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582508)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:59 PM
Author: ruby theater dysfunction

why do you write so much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49583325)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: curious boistinker space

I can't stand the way contemporary authors write - telegraphic sentences with no interior identity, just "Jane did this, Joe did that, he said she said blah blah". every voice is the Same.

like why the fuck would I read something like that instead of just watching a tv show or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582758)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:46 AM
Author: dark meetinghouse

Since James Joyce and Sam Beckett, there hasn't been any Great Literature. Just force feed Harry Potter books to the next generation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582780)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: sable exciting temple filthpig

Nabokov, Greene, Ishiguro, maybe McEwan. Do they reach Joyce, no, but they do meet other Great Literature



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49584704)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:41 AM
Author: dark meetinghouse

Great Literature is defined as adding to the canon of the human experience expressed through immortal words, words, words. I daresay no one living today would dare such a feat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49588311)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:56 AM
Author: Contagious brass hunting ground

Im gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582940)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: irradiated kitchen liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49582991)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 1:02 PM
Author: Contagious brass hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49583332)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 12:28 PM
Author: Appetizing bright dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49586151)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Contagious brass hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49586161)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:47 AM
Author: kink-friendly station incel

You only think this because English-language "great literature", especially as conceived by American high school teachers, is full of shitty novels for women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49588315)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: Soul-stirring saffron antidepressant drug stead

totally agree that a lot of great literature is exactly that. there is also the strand of rambling Dickens crap where he was basically paid by the word and it shows.

also agree with above that most of the themes of actually great novels are inaccessible to a teen brain who have only experienced struggles relating to horizontal (peer) or vertical (parents/teachers) relationships.

i had to read The Sound and the Fury which was completely fucking ridiculous in hindsight. if a kid can barely understand the structure of a novel it makes very little sense to read something that upends it. the first fourth is a retard POV who cannot tell time. class was such a slog with 99% of the class having no idea what was happening



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49588326)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 9:09 AM
Author: Frozen place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2),#49588345)