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Finished Bukowski's Ham on Rye (1982)

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is appa...
Magical French Chef Double Fault
  06/17/25
Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded fag...
Irradiated Macaca
  06/17/25
This is exactly what Bukowski would say.
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wonderful drunken pocket flask field
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This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idioti...
Filthy Infuriating Principal's Office Persian
  06/17/25
whoa crr
Painfully Honest Ladyboy Theatre
  06/17/25
MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and je...
Irradiated Macaca
  06/17/25
The distinction between my response and his might be that he...
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Magical French Chef Double Fault
  06/17/25
id like some elaboration here
gaped den dysfunction
  06/17/25
Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggress...
Magical French Chef Double Fault
  06/17/25
“I’m a kike!” How groundbreaking. You m...
Irradiated Macaca
  06/17/25
That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.
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Date: June 17th, 2025 6:21 AM
Author: Magical French Chef Double Fault

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is apparently his most famous novel along with his first, Post Office. It is a semi-autobiographical novel about his youth - born in Germany, raised in Los Angeles, always a poor outsider, wisecracking and fast talking, his loves were alcohol and writing. He developed terrible acne as a teenager which made his outsider status worse but even that was something he accepted and suffered through.

The book is lovely, an easy and flowing read. Bukowski discusses the difficulties of life and he does it in a wry, direct, honest and disarming style. One can’t help but love the guy - he’s got such a defined voice.

He states that he’s neither a misanthrope nor a misogynist in the book, and I think at least the second part is true for him - for the first, he uses alcohol to dull the pain of existence. However, Bukowski, for all his self-loathing and rawness, seemed to channel his suffering into a grudging acceptance of the human animal - ugly, dirty, and laughable, yes, but not necessarily evil. He’s disillusioned, yes, but rarely metaphysically embittered. The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

I’ve read all of Bukowkski’s poetry online (https://www.best-poems.net/charles_bukowski/index.html) and will continue to read more of his works.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:17 AM
Author: Irradiated Macaca

Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded faggot.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:20 AM
Author: Bistre Selfie

This is exactly what Bukowski would say.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Magical French Chef Double Fault



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:33 AM
Author: gaped den dysfunction



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:37 AM
Author: Talking ceo gaming laptop



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: Razzle hateful stage roast beef



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:39 AM
Author: wonderful drunken pocket flask field



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Filthy Infuriating Principal's Office Persian

This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idiotic faggot. Kill yourself.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Painfully Honest Ladyboy Theatre

whoa crr

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:19 AM
Author: Irradiated Macaca

MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and jewish

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Violent Pit Psychic

The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2)#49023382)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Magical French Chef Double Fault



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: gaped den dysfunction

id like some elaboration here

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Magical French Chef Double Fault

Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggressive and never respected my emotional red lines, which felt on a subconscious level, to a young child, like deep betrayal and which has warped my relationship with all women thereafter.

My philosophical pessimism and gnosticism is well documented here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2)#49023397)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:40 AM
Author: Irradiated Macaca

“I’m a kike!”

How groundbreaking. You might be the next bukowski.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2)#49023457)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: cerebral sickened gas station

That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2)#49023700)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: pink coldplay fan



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Date: June 17th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: Magical French Chef Double Fault



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