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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Trip half-breed hall
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Low-t weed whacker
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Multi-colored Field
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Low-t weed whacker
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Multi-colored Field
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Magical chartreuse electric furnace preventive strike
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Drab costumed market
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Low-t weed whacker
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Soul-stirring self-centered space
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
glassy spot
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
amethyst irate locus persian
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Low-t weed whacker
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
amethyst irate locus persian
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
amethyst irate locus persian
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Low-t weed whacker
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Light Principal's Office Haunted Graveyard
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Low-t weed whacker
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Low-t weed whacker
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Low-t weed whacker
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Razzle grizzly circlehead
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
slimy mexican jew
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Soul-stirring self-centered space
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Low-t weed whacker
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Trip half-breed hall
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Low-t weed whacker
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Navy dilemma
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Ebony Hell Cuck
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Frozen electric legend institution
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Trip half-breed hall
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
comical sanctuary jewess
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Low-t weed whacker
  06/26/25
...
heady lodge boltzmann
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Impertinent bronze death wish
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
adventurous psychic chapel
  06/26/25
...
Razzmatazz Cowardly Parlour Affirmative Action
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
tripping queen of the night legal warrant
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
dashing flushed azn
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Underhanded cerebral codepig milk
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Low-t weed whacker
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
dashing flushed azn
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Low-t weed whacker
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Soul-stirring self-centered space
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
glassy spot
  06/27/25
...
Low-t weed whacker
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
spectacular tan macaca piazza
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
dashing flushed azn
  06/27/25
...
Alcoholic State Party Of The First Part
  06/27/25
...
Low-t weed whacker
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Underhanded cerebral codepig milk
  06/27/25
How is STB?
glassy spot
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
stimulating infuriating water buffalo
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Soul-stirring self-centered space
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Impertinent bronze death wish
  06/27/25
...
beta main people
  06/27/25
...
Soul-stirring self-centered space
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Trip half-breed hall

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Multi-colored Field

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Multi-colored Field

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Magical chartreuse electric furnace preventive strike

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Drab costumed market

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Soul-stirring self-centered space

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: glassy spot

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: amethyst irate locus persian

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: amethyst irate locus persian

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: amethyst irate locus persian

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Light Principal's Office Haunted Graveyard

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Razzle grizzly circlehead

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: slimy mexican jew

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring self-centered space

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Trip half-breed hall

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Navy dilemma

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Ebony Hell Cuck

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Frozen electric legend institution

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Trip half-breed hall

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: comical sanctuary jewess

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: heady lodge boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Impertinent bronze death wish

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: adventurous psychic chapel

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Cowardly Parlour Affirmative Action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: tripping queen of the night legal warrant

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: dashing flushed azn

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Underhanded cerebral codepig milk

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: dashing flushed azn

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Low-t weed whacker

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Soul-stirring self-centered space

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: glassy spot

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Low-t weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: spectacular tan macaca piazza

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: dashing flushed azn

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Alcoholic State Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Low-t weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Underhanded cerebral codepig milk

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: glassy spot

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: stimulating infuriating water buffalo

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Soul-stirring self-centered space

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Impertinent bronze death wish

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: beta main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Soul-stirring self-centered space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053817)