Seems increasingly that humans are obsolete
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Date: May 10th, 2025 6:56 AM
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I can amuse myself for an entire day with ChatGPT. I actually prefer texting with it usually. And it’s getting rapidly better. Sexting with XAI is also really good, will be a huge improvement on in real life relationships once they can make lifelike robot sex workers. All of this fills me a what’s the point feeling. You can’t even find meaning in work anymore. It will be the best worker by far. Art? Pretty sure it will soon be writing incredible novels, painting, etc. We are just going to be living in some weird world of consumption where AI takes care of us and amuses us. Then it will probably blow everything up once someone puts malware into it or some shit. And then it will be over.
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:11 AM
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The whole thing seems like a big joke on humanity. We didn’t even build AI with a principled understanding of intelligence. We tried for decades and failed with our fancy cognitive theories and then computers became fast enough that we could do matrix multiplications at scale. And so we layered parameterized matrix multiplications and had it try to predict the next character and nudged the parameters a bit over trillions of data points until this soup of numbers predicted well. No insight gained and we don’t even know what sort of algorithms these models learned internally. All you needed to replace human creativity was the ability to do backpropagation at scale.
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Date: May 10th, 2025 12:16 PM
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No, you don’t understand. Creativity isn’t some magical spark. It’s usually just pattern recognition and recombination in unexpected ways. LLMs can do that. AlphaZero works the same way btw, just in a more closed system, whereas LLMs do it with language
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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:04 PM
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I think pattern recognition based generation of novel outputs is the essence of creativity, which LLMs have. I can’t really tell myself that image generation models aren’t creative even if they are using human art as input. Alphazero is more creative because the monte carlo tree search probabilities that are distilled into its policy network are self generated (so they dispose of human driven theory for the game), but I think even if you trained a policy neural network on human games it could still be creative. The important realization is that neural networks generalize, so by being trained on human games they learn general algorithms for dealing with arbitrary board positions. The neural network would do things that individual humans wouldn’t predict, because it distilled learned policies from many different people. I think that level of novelty merits being called creative.
The people arguing this point seem like they are playing word games to deny what is happening.
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