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Why don't more people retire early? 55 and under?

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Doobsian bronze hall
  10/26/25
Retiring from your job is something you do when you’re...
scarlet round eye
  10/26/25
So, you enjoy life as a slave?
Doobsian bronze hall
  10/26/25
Be the boss or owner so work is fun.
unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy
  10/26/25
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Dun razzmatazz resort scourge upon the earth
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unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy
  10/26/25
many millennials have done this!
Indigo property party of the first part
  10/26/25
I would gladly retire at 55 if I could afford it. We had kid...
hairless adulterous jew jewess
  10/26/25
I had 4 kids in the teens through ‘22. Best decision o...
scarlet round eye
  10/26/25
lol
Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit
  10/28/25
You trade a day with your kids every day you go to work. In ...
Doobsian bronze hall
  10/28/25
retiring is a death sentence, one must work & continuous...
comical stead
  10/26/25
You sound jewish
Doobsian bronze hall
  10/26/25
enjoy dying young
comical stead
  10/26/25
But what does that have to do with being employed at a job?
Purple coldplay fan
  10/26/25
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Coral spectacular mediation
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Honey-headed Locale Personal Credit Line
  10/26/25
then why doesn't RSF at least have an autoimmune disease or ...
curious twinkling market
  10/26/25
also ime if the job would actually be interesting or a chall...
curious twinkling market
  10/26/25
retiring young to me doesn't mean ceasing to be a part of so...
nofapping voyeur
  10/26/25
Same
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Coral spectacular mediation
  10/26/25
Are you involved with Doom 32X Resurrection
curious twinkling market
  10/26/25
It's really not the same kind of pressure imo and that press...
chocolate heaven
  10/27/25
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comical stead
  10/27/25
why would you want longevity if it's filled by pressure? ...
Talented sex offender pocket flask
  10/28/25
people who retire and focus on hobbies turn to mush, sorry. ...
comical stead
  10/27/25
For example? Is there a long blog poast on this?
curious twinkling market
  10/27/25
I’m not talking about hobbies. Sure, I’d play mo...
nofapping voyeur
  10/27/25
For me — Litigating fills my bank account, but Film fi...
curious twinkling market
  10/27/25
Retire to do what? I have enough money and tried just doing ...
razzle quadroon parlour
  10/26/25
Do you have no interests or hobbies?
Doobsian bronze hall
  10/26/25
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comical stead
  10/26/25
Just tending to a big yard and home maintenance and remodeli...
Garnet duck-like university ape
  10/26/25
most of the retired people nearby do this and it's their ent...
Aggressive Police Squad
  10/26/25
I'll be retiring at 53. Only 6 more months of working. I kno...
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
180
Cowardly Tan Lodge Hairy Legs
  10/26/25
Sounds very Tommy Turdskinesque
scarlet round eye
  10/26/25
healthcare is reasonably priced if you can game your income ...
Garnet duck-like university ape
  10/26/25
he's scamming the taxpayer with military disability. no hidi...
curious twinkling market
  10/26/25
Maybe our legislature shouldn’t pass such stupid laws ...
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
Yes you did you Gen Xer. You know it's your destiny to be po...
curious twinkling market
  10/26/25
Oh. This is Cowgod.
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
literally every military vet has some level of disability pe...
nofapping voyeur
  10/26/25
I never even applied for them for 27 years after I got out. ...
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
You didnt stumble upon it. A poaster sent it to you iirc. Yo...
curious twinkling market
  10/27/25
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Bull headed point regret
  10/26/25
180
Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit
  10/28/25
My sample size is small but I have not ever seen this work o...
metal smoky dysfunction menage
  10/26/25
Most of the early retirees I know are living quite well. I g...
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
People who live where you do presumably mostly choose to be ...
swashbuckling sanctuary
  10/26/25
I know you live in Alaska, but traveling is really, really s...
scarlet round eye
  10/26/25
I should say vacationing. I’m not much of a “tra...
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
alaska is a great home base for int'l travel. it's in the mi...
brindle motley hospital athletic conference
  10/27/25
(Guy regularly hopping on the nonstop from Fairbanks to Guan...
Azure sinister yarmulke site
  10/27/25
It’s pretty simple: People who get in the position ...
swashbuckling sanctuary
  10/26/25
Cr. There is a payroll to think about.
scarlet round eye
  10/26/25
Mid-50s were high earning years in like 2010. Now it's Gen X...
curious twinkling market
  10/26/25
Aren't the numbers pretty brutal? Assuming at 55 you have...
Pea-brained impertinent library
  10/26/25
People who retire early hate their kids.
unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy
  10/26/25
How so?
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
You should be stacking money in your 60s and 70s so your kid...
unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy
  10/26/25
LOL I made my own way, they can figure out theirs.
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
Keep booming dirte.
unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy
  10/27/25
I’m kind of in a unique situation. NW of roughly 5 mm ...
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
brother you are living the dream except you should have foun...
rebellious galvanic shrine persian
  10/28/25
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Know-it-all lavender deer antler boltzmann
  11/01/25
i'm going to retire early with $10 million or so. even doin...
Godawful greedy mental disorder piazza
  10/26/25
I’ll never understand the mindset of people who live t...
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
i'm not opposed to a richly rewarding, challenging but flexi...
Godawful greedy mental disorder piazza
  10/26/25
I’m done making rich men richer. It’s mai tais a...
zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat
  10/26/25
Which is what?
Beta Theater Stage Faggotry
  10/27/25
He does something on oil rigs
Doobsian bronze hall
  10/28/25
sex with men
Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit
  10/28/25
I'll never understand people who wait to retire once they ha...
rebellious galvanic shrine persian
  10/28/25
$10m liquid or are you including, eg, $4m in Bay Area home e...
swashbuckling sanctuary
  10/26/25
Most people in my field medicine don't have any inter3sts an...
Appetizing volcanic crater people who are hurt
  10/26/25
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histrionic spruce famous landscape painting
  10/26/25
I think this is fairly common in high-achiever circles.
swashbuckling sanctuary
  10/26/25
i see way more high achievers seriously pursuing a hobby tha...
Azure sinister yarmulke site
  10/27/25
I retired around 35. But I still ended up working here and t...
chocolate heaven
  10/27/25
CR. I’m a tenured law prof and sometimes get sabbatica...
Razzle-dazzle emerald dilemma
  10/27/25
What about your Backlog? Thus gives you time to work on your...
curious twinkling market
  10/27/25
video games arent actually that fun when you can play them 2...
chocolate heaven
  10/27/25
But this is the only way to reduce your Backlog. And tell th...
curious twinkling market
  10/27/25
I have 4 kids. They go to Jewish Day Schools. The tuition is...
sadistic corner
  10/27/25
Tell us about the discounts you negotiated
Medicated Dragon
  10/27/25
Sounds like an "Are Reptile is stupid" problem.
Beta Theater Stage Faggotry
  10/27/25
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Doobsian bronze hall
  10/28/25
30% of the kids at the high school end up at an Ivy or equiv...
sadistic corner
  10/28/25
I went to a public school and went to a T14 LS on a scholars...
Beta Theater Stage Faggotry
  10/29/25
Good goy
Honey-headed Locale Personal Credit Line
  10/28/25
if i could walk a few blocks and work with friends i would d...
Indigo property party of the first part
  10/27/25
they scrolled social media for 25 years and cant retire
Aggressive Police Squad
  10/27/25
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Doobsian bronze hall
  10/27/25
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Drab vengeful state
  10/29/25
Health care costs will absolutely destroy you if you try to ...
Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea
  10/28/25
You could clearly move abroad like TT, and have reasonable h...
Doobsian bronze hall
  10/28/25
You could just not buy health insurance.
Purple coldplay fan
  10/28/25
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Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit
  10/28/25
And die penniless if I get in an accident or get sick. Not r...
Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea
  10/28/25
Weird! I've never seen such risk aversion on XO, but it's my...
Doobsian bronze hall
  10/28/25
Going without health insurance in your 50's or 60's while tr...
Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea
  10/28/25
Just move to Thailand or something. Insurance is ridiculousl...
Doobsian bronze hall
  10/29/25
That might be a viable strategy for you or boor or other xox...
Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea
  10/29/25
a better approach is to buy bottom of the barrel insurance t...
sooty temple
  10/29/25
Even bottom of the barrel catastrophic coverage is super exp...
Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea
  10/30/25
it should be your goal to die before you need serious "...
Clear office
  10/28/25
Actual psychopaths work as long as they are able.
Doobsian bronze hall
  10/29/25
“ I have run the numbers, and health care costs would ...
curious twinkling market
  10/29/25
(guy who has never looked at the price of individual health ...
Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea
  10/29/25
Get on a health sharing plan like Christian healthcare minis...
Provocative Rehab
  10/29/25
i'm about to part-time retire at 36 with $1.5m. just fucking...
Ruby Bespoke Theater Pervert
  10/28/25
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Doobsian bronze hall
  10/28/25
I'm a decade older than you and I have about the same. I'd ...
rebellious galvanic shrine persian
  10/28/25
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Ruby Bespoke Theater Pervert
  10/28/25
Fear of the unknown and stupidity prevents early retire.
Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit
  10/28/25
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Doobsian bronze hall
  10/28/25
The huge Tangled mess of regulations and so forth ensure tha...
seedy milky doctorate feces
  10/29/25
"The only way to escape the machine is to move overseas...
French fanboi digit ratio
  10/29/25
You're living in one now.
Purple coldplay fan
  10/29/25
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Doobsian bronze hall
  10/29/25
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Beta Theater Stage Faggotry
  11/01/25
Everything is expensive as shit and if you have a job you li...
Beta Theater Stage Faggotry
  11/01/25
55 is the average age these days when homes get paid off. th...
Watcher in the Woods
  11/10/25
TP
The Django ate muh baybeee
  11/10/25


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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376708)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: scarlet round eye

Retiring from your job is something you do when you’re 70-75 years old in my opinion.

Who wants to be retired at 55?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376711)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall

So, you enjoy life as a slave?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376721)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:33 PM
Author: unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy

Be the boss or owner so work is fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377466)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Dun razzmatazz resort scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377594)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:17 AM
Author: aquamarine offensive stage mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377789)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377465)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: Indigo property party of the first part

many millennials have done this!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376716)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: hairless adulterous jew jewess

I would gladly retire at 55 if I could afford it. We had kids younger and will be finished paying for college by then hopefully/presumably, but having to buy a house younger and pay for all the kid bullshit cost me easily 1M in net worth and probably more like 2.5M, just because we had to stretch to afford buying a house and two kids in day care in years where our investment portfolio would be 5+x bigger if we just maxed out 401k and bought the obvious plays I bought in much smaller quantities (eg AMZN, Apple, NVidia, BTC, etc.). My only hope to retire at 55 now is if my parents and in-laws leave way more inheritance than I’m expecting, which isn’t going to happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376728)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: scarlet round eye

I had 4 kids in the teens through ‘22. Best decision of my life. Can’t have new kids now. And kids really are what it’s all about, even though they make day to day living pretty stressful. I’d never trade a day with my kids for a day of “retirement.” Jfc, what a bad deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376953)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382903)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall

You trade a day with your kids every day you go to work. In retirement, you wouldn't trade anything, retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382908)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: comical stead

retiring is a death sentence, one must work & continuously challenge oneself, push ones limits, in order to live

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376731)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall

You sound jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376732)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: comical stead

enjoy dying young

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376733)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: Purple coldplay fan

But what does that have to do with being employed at a job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376930)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: Coral spectacular mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376980)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: Honey-headed Locale Personal Credit Line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377559)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: curious twinkling market

then why doesn't RSF at least have an autoimmune disease or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377632)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:09 PM
Author: curious twinkling market

also ime if the job would actually be interesting or a challenge, you never get it anyway. People want you to do the Same Thing over and over again. The most surefire way to challenge yourself is to challenge yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377641)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:23 PM
Author: nofapping voyeur

retiring young to me doesn't mean ceasing to be a part of society. it means no longer spending my time doing things i don't like in pursuit of the acuisition of money.

there are already a few organizations/projects i'm part of that i could devote all my time to and feel good about it if i didn't care about how much money those efforts produced.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377680)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

Same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377691)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: Coral spectacular mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377702)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:33 PM
Author: curious twinkling market

Are you involved with Doom 32X Resurrection

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377703)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: chocolate heaven

It's really not the same kind of pressure imo and that pressure is needed for longevity. And not longevity in the sense of growing old or being remembered for a long time but more in the personal sense of staying sharp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377776)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:12 AM
Author: comical stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377779)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 12:17 AM
Author: Talented sex offender pocket flask

why would you want longevity if it's filled by pressure?

that is some serious cope



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381199)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:13 AM
Author: comical stead

people who retire and focus on hobbies turn to mush, sorry. being regularly challenged is often quite unpleasant and people will generally adjust their lives to not be challenged if they can afford to do so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377780)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:02 AM
Author: curious twinkling market

For example? Is there a long blog poast on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378193)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: nofapping voyeur

I’m not talking about hobbies. Sure, I’d play more music and take more bike rides but that wouldn’t take up all my time. An example would be a director for some organization that isn’t profit focused. Roles would include marketing, planning, budgeting, training etc.

You’re telling me that would be worse for my mind than litigating?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378236)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:21 AM
Author: curious twinkling market

For me — Litigating fills my bank account, but Film fills my soul. I have been engaged with a non-profit focusing on the latter fwiw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378328)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: razzle quadroon parlour

Retire to do what? I have enough money and tried just doing nothing. It's really boring.

IMO a man needs to be building stuff and growing in order to be healthy and happy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376752)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall

Do you have no interests or hobbies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376761)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: comical stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376765)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: Garnet duck-like university ape

Just tending to a big yard and home maintenance and remodeling etc can take a ton of time if u have a big house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376979)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Aggressive Police Squad

most of the retired people nearby do this and it's their entire life - very depressing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377457)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

I'll be retiring at 53. Only 6 more months of working. I know I'm in a fortunate position, but I understand why most are unable to retire. If healthcare were more reasonably priced, I think a lot more people would pursue this option.

I am already making retirement plans and goals. Once the kids are out of the house in a couple years, we're going to hike the Camino, and sail around the Caribbean, make a trip to Antarctica (the only continent I haven't been to). Lots of plans on the bucket list. We want to do a lot of travel while we're still young enough and physically capable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376753)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Cowardly Tan Lodge Hairy Legs

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376758)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:21 PM
Author: scarlet round eye

Sounds very Tommy Turdskinesque

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376954)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: Garnet duck-like university ape

healthcare is reasonably priced if you can game your income to maximize Oniggercare subsidies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376981)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: curious twinkling market

he's scamming the taxpayer with military disability. no hiding that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377646)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

Maybe our legislature shouldn’t pass such stupid laws like the Pact Act. I didn’t scam anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377662)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: curious twinkling market

Yes you did you Gen Xer. You know it's your destiny to be poor af. Any other outcome MUST be scamming, because you're Gen X.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377671)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

Oh. This is Cowgod.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377689)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:33 PM
Author: nofapping voyeur

literally every military vet has some level of disability pension.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377704)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:35 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

I never even applied for them for 27 years after I got out. It never crossed my mind until I stumbled across an article about the Pact Act.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377710)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:48 AM
Author: curious twinkling market

You didnt stumble upon it. A poaster sent it to you iirc. You should be paying rach’s Hosting Fees imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378181)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: Bull headed point regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377696)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382913)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: metal smoky dysfunction menage

My sample size is small but I have not ever seen this work out well.

TBH I think that people with the drive to amass enough money to retire early are precisely the sorts of people that should continue working later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376759)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

Most of the early retirees I know are living quite well. I golf and fish with a few guys in their early to mid fifties. None of them live extravagantly, but they all seem enriched by their travel and passions. I do know a couple of burnouts that just collect disability and smoke pot all day every day, but they don't seem unhappy.

My doctor friend is actually fulfilled by work and enjoys operating on people. He says he will work until he is unable. He does travel extensively for a few months each year though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376811)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:56 PM
Author: swashbuckling sanctuary

People who live where you do presumably mostly choose to be there. It’s pretty self-selective. Not the case for the rat race hellholes where a lot of us find ourselves.

I dream of getting off the rollercoaster at some point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376852)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: scarlet round eye

I know you live in Alaska, but traveling is really, really stupid for the most part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376959)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

I should say vacationing. I’m not much of a “traveler” per se, but I really really enjoy vacationing. Yes, there’s a difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377654)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:15 AM
Author: brindle motley hospital athletic conference

alaska is a great home base for int'l travel. it's in the middle of everything. 6-7 hours or less in any direction and you can be in all kinds of places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377785)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:42 AM
Author: Azure sinister yarmulke site

(Guy regularly hopping on the nonstop from Fairbanks to Guangzhou)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378244)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: swashbuckling sanctuary

It’s pretty simple:

People who get in the position to do this are, generally, slaves and know no other life. They have no hobbies, no friends who aren’t professional contacts, etc.

Lots of bros can’t stand their wives and kids or vice-versa.

Mid-50s are often highest-earning years, so it’s easy to slippery slope.

Also tend to have a lot of $$$ demands at that time in life. Sweet little daughters need someone to pay for NYU plus East Village apartment, oh and they need $5k/month for the next 5-10 years while they fuck through the city until they get married.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376841)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:23 PM
Author: scarlet round eye

Cr. There is a payroll to think about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49376961)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:12 PM
Author: curious twinkling market

Mid-50s were high earning years in like 2010. Now it's Gen X so they're low-earning years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377651)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: Pea-brained impertinent library

Aren't the numbers pretty brutal?

Assuming at 55 you have $2 mm saved, if you retire at 55 you'll have about $2 mm at 65, whereas if you work, you'll have like $5-6 mm saved?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377437)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 10:37 PM
Author: unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy

People who retire early hate their kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377576)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:05 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

How so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377623)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy

You should be stacking money in your 60s and 70s so your kids can inherit it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377673)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:27 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

LOL

I made my own way, they can figure out theirs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377693)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: unhinged antidepressant drug ladyboy

Keep booming dirte.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378537)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

I’m kind of in a unique situation. NW of roughly 5 mm depending on how you value pensions. We have no debt whatsoever, and will have to survive on 16-17K per month in retirement. Once we start getting social security, we’ll be around 20-22K per month. We have free healthcare through the VA and my kids basically get free college. Yes, I think the VA overcompensates me, but I’m not going to turn it down.

I hate my job, fat fiancée hates her job. There are so many things I’d rather do than work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377648)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: rebellious galvanic shrine persian

brother you are living the dream except you should have found a hot Ukrainian teenager

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382905)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: Know-it-all lavender deer antler boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49393526)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Godawful greedy mental disorder piazza

i'm going to retire early with $10 million or so. even doing nothing sounds better than more biglaw at that point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377585)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

I’ll never understand the mindset of people who live to work. People who are defined by their job are the saddest people in the world imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377660)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Godawful greedy mental disorder piazza

i'm not opposed to a richly rewarding, challenging but flexible job that doesn't monopolize my time and attention, but come on, let's be realistic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377675)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: zombie-like onyx tattoo toilet seat

I’m done making rich men richer. It’s mai tais and margaritas on the beach from here on out. I’m done being challenged and my work has never been rewarding. I purposely chose the highest paying job, with the least amount of effort along with the most time off I could find.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377695)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Beta Theater Stage Faggotry

Which is what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49379486)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall

He does something on oil rigs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381185)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:17 PM
Author: Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit

sex with men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382923)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: rebellious galvanic shrine persian

I'll never understand people who wait to retire once they have even 10 million. Working is a waste of your life unless you are truly exceptional like Musk, Jobs, or fucking Van Gogh or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49383095)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:55 PM
Author: swashbuckling sanctuary

$10m liquid or are you including, eg, $4m in Bay Area home equity?

What age will this be for you?

I got off biglaw treadmill for a while but am back on it (and remember why I got off it at one point).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377747)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: Appetizing volcanic crater people who are hurt

Most people in my field medicine don't have any inter3sts and feel themselves useful if they work while their fat wife goes shopping. Once they stop work it will be apparent they have no life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377687)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:31 PM
Author: histrionic spruce famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377701)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:56 PM
Author: swashbuckling sanctuary

I think this is fairly common in high-achiever circles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377748)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: Azure sinister yarmulke site

i see way more high achievers seriously pursuing a hobby than standard yuppie types

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378247)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:04 AM
Author: chocolate heaven

I retired around 35. But I still ended up working here and these because life is pretty boring and pointless once you have it all. This kind of thing is something that's hard to come to and accept that why you see people like rsf who are useless and impactless. Not sure if I can truly explain it better. It's something you really have to experience before it can make any sense. Why else would people like Elon musk or a Rothschild continue working.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377765)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:21 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle emerald dilemma

CR. I’m a tenured law prof and sometimes get sabbaticals or grants that let me travel or do virtually nothing for 6 months to a year. It’s fun for a while, but honestly gets boring after a bit. I'm always eager to return to teaching and publishing. Think I’ll keep doing this until I’m 70.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49377794)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:55 AM
Author: curious twinkling market

What about your Backlog? Thus gives you time to work on your Backlog.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378187)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: chocolate heaven

video games arent actually that fun when you can play them 24/7

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378290)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: curious twinkling market

But this is the only way to reduce your Backlog. And tell that to WoW players and CoD Scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378557)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:53 AM
Author: sadistic corner

I have 4 kids. They go to Jewish Day Schools. The tuition is $40k per kid. I need to pay for 12 years of this for each kid. LJL at retiring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378184)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Medicated Dragon

Tell us about the discounts you negotiated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378339)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Beta Theater Stage Faggotry

Sounds like an "Are Reptile is stupid" problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49379481)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381184)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:38 AM
Author: sadistic corner

30% of the kids at the high school end up at an Ivy or equivalent. Public school is like playing the lotto with your kids’ lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381631)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 6:46 PM
Author: Beta Theater Stage Faggotry

I went to a public school and went to a T14 LS on a scholarship. My HHI is like $800k/year.

30% chance of going to Cornell isn't worth $40k/year/kid. Also, as a thought exercise: $40k/year x 12 + 70k/year x 4 = $760k. That's BEFORE grad school. You could basically send your kid to UF, buy your kid a business, have them run it, then use that to get into a top MBA program or whatever, or just have them keep expanding their business and have a few hundred k left over so they can get a downpayment for a house for each kid. That's for each kid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49385909)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 12:18 AM
Author: Honey-headed Locale Personal Credit Line

Good goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381201)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: Indigo property party of the first part

if i could walk a few blocks and work with friends i would do it til i was dead but ljl @ driving to some bs "job" and being around shrews and boomers and immigrants doing power point presentations. its even worse if you do blue collar work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49378887)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: Aggressive Police Squad

they scrolled social media for 25 years and cant retire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49379497)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 11:43 PM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381126)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: Drab vengeful state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49385751)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 1:14 AM
Author: Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea

Health care costs will absolutely destroy you if you try to retire before you are eligible for Medicare. I have run the numbers, and health care costs would eat up almost half of my income until Medicare kicks in.

But to answer the question more broadly, most people are poor. The median household net worth in the U.S. is around $100k. For non-homeowners, it is about $10k. For most Americans, retirement before Social Security isn't an option. I have a net worth of around $2.5 million in my mid-40's and no kids, and I would struggle to make the numbers work if I retired at 55 (mainly due to health care costs, as discussed earlier). LJL at the typical American with no savings outside of home equity retiring early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381252)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:16 AM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall

You could clearly move abroad like TT, and have reasonable healthcare costs and live like a king. Why wouldn’t you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381611)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: Purple coldplay fan

You could just not buy health insurance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382893)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:21 PM
Author: Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382938)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea

And die penniless if I get in an accident or get sick. Not really worth the risk, in my opinion. Also, in my case, my wife takes a bunch of expensive medications, so I have to pay out the nose for those with or without insurance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49383006)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall

Weird! I've never seen such risk aversion on XO, but it's my first day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49383067)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea

Going without health insurance in your 50's or 60's while trying to retire early is just moronic. If you are in your 20's, then maybe, since you are likely to be both healthy and judgement-proof. But a 60-year-old FIREmo without health insurance is completely done here if they get cancer or get in a serious car accident or something. Decades of savings will be gone instantly, and you are back to wagecucking until you drop dead. No thank you. I'd rather just work for a couple more years until I can either afford insurance or am eligible for Medicare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49383616)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 1:36 AM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall

Just move to Thailand or something. Insurance is ridiculously cheap compared to the USA.

Either way, this is pussy mentality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49383943)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea

That might be a viable strategy for you or boor or other xoxo autists, but normal people have friends and family and aren't willing to leave them on the other side of the planet just to be able to retire a few year earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49385450)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: sooty temple

a better approach is to buy bottom of the barrel insurance that provides some ultimate backstop to your max out of pocket. also many states don't put medical debt on credit reports. so you can simply ignore or refuse to pay providers.

if you're very well-capitialized, this is a good dirtbag strategy to get good treatment at low cost

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49385473)



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Date: October 30th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea

Even bottom of the barrel catastrophic coverage is super expensive for people in their 50's and 60's. And refusing to pay providers is super risky as a FIREmo. If they sue, you're fucked. Also, if you get cancer and need multiple rounds of radiation or chemo, at some point, they will stop giving you treatment if you don't pay your bills. The bottom line is that if you want to retire in the U.S. before Medicare kicks in, you need to budget a minimum of $20k per year (and probably more like $30k-$40k per year if you have any health problems) for health care expenses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49388417)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: Clear office

it should be your goal to die before you need serious "health care"

lol @ spending your youth accumulating $$$ so you can afford to rot away as a cripple at 70

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49383111)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 1:35 AM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall

Actual psychopaths work as long as they are able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49383938)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 8:36 AM
Author: curious twinkling market

“ I have run the numbers, and health care costs would eat up almost half of my income until Medicare kicks in.”

Are you on dialysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49384237)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: Brass coiffed public bath marketing idea

(guy who has never looked at the price of individual health plans for someone aged 50+)

Premiums alone will run around $2,000 per month, and that gets you an out-of-pocket max of just under $20k per year. So you probably need to budget $30k-$40k per year just for health care costs until Medicare kicks in. You could spend less if you are healthy. (My wife unfortunately takes several expensive medications that run $1000+ per month.) But probably around $15k-$20k per year is an absolute lower bound unless you want to risk losing everything if you get cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49386308)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 8:41 AM
Author: Provocative Rehab

Get on a health sharing plan like Christian healthcare ministries. Doesn’t cover preexisting but it’s like 500 a month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49384238)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Ruby Bespoke Theater Pervert

i'm about to part-time retire at 36 with $1.5m. just fucking lol at surrendering your few years on this earth to purel @ desk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381620)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49381621)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: rebellious galvanic shrine persian

I'm a decade older than you and I have about the same. I'd retire if I was single. I will retire as soon as I have enough to support my family without working.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382900)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:12 PM
Author: Ruby Bespoke Theater Pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49383086)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: Concupiscible rose telephone orchestra pit

Fear of the unknown and stupidity prevents early retire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382902)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49382904)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: seedy milky doctorate feces

The huge Tangled mess of regulations and so forth ensure that the cost of living in America continues to increase all the time. Especially Healthcare.. and so that keeps people working. The only way to escape the machine is to move overseas to a cheap third world country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49385468)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: French fanboi digit ratio

"The only way to escape the machine is to move overseas to a cheap third world country"

will you idiots drop this shit already. no one wants to live in a brown shithole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49385486)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: Purple coldplay fan

You're living in one now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49386297)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: Doobsian bronze hall



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Beta Theater Stage Faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49393516)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: Beta Theater Stage Faggotry

Everything is expensive as shit and if you have a job you like then you don't retire. Eventually they'll fire you or your company will implode and you'll become "retired" because that's how shit works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49393519)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: Watcher in the Woods

55 is the average age these days when homes get paid off. there's still a little bit of college debt to pay. plus the 100k truck.

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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: The Django ate muh baybeee

TP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2)#49419274)