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Would you retire on 12K/mo with no debt or mortgage?

Fixed expenses of $2,000/mo (property taxes, utilities, inte...
outnumbered opaque degenerate
  06/07/25
I plan on retiring on approximately 8K/month with no mortgag...
unhinged odious parlor electric furnace
  06/07/25
I turn 49 next week, and I'm done with it all. Hopefully...
outnumbered opaque degenerate
  06/07/25
Retiring that early with that much cash really only leaves y...
unhinged odious parlor electric furnace
  06/07/25
the alternative is killself, which seems more catastrophic
outnumbered opaque degenerate
  06/07/25
healthcare eats up like 25k of post-tax for a gold/family pl...
vivacious space
  06/08/25
Can you explain how that really works? I have Health insuran...
glittery yarmulke hell
  06/08/25
health insurance is basically for a. pre-negotiated rates...
vivacious space
  06/08/25
Yeah I know that. In countries like Malaysia you get A+ insu...
glittery yarmulke hell
  06/08/25
america has it's faults, but my guess is most people who spe...
vivacious space
  06/08/25
id do it on 6K month
Aromatic hairless chapel
  06/07/25
I might learn spanish and hie thee to costa rica
outnumbered opaque degenerate
  06/07/25
actually thinking of doing this in next couple months, i hav...
Aromatic hairless chapel
  06/07/25
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outnumbered opaque degenerate
  06/07/25
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concupiscible translucent forum
  06/07/25
the better question is how fucking retarded would you have t...
fragrant stubborn dilemma
  06/07/25
I'm thinking the same thing, I'm not striving for a RSF/CSLG...
outnumbered opaque degenerate
  06/07/25
this sounds 180 except change golf to hiking
Aromatic hairless chapel
  06/07/25
That would require $7 million invested. Most people will sa...
mauve tantric sandwich personal credit line
  06/07/25
4.2mm with 1.2mm equity in home 1.2mm is in 401K that I d...
outnumbered opaque degenerate
  06/07/25
How are you going to get $144k annually after tax out of tha...
mauve tantric sandwich personal credit line
  06/07/25
How are you not? The 4% rule is garbage, and who said anythi...
outnumbered opaque degenerate
  06/07/25
It's the three percent rule now
mauve tantric sandwich personal credit line
  06/08/25
lol i'm about to retire on $4500/mo. $12k would be nuts.
umber flickering knife
  06/07/25
Total monthly expenses now? Expected total monthly expens...
yellow theatre
  06/07/25
Current monthly expenses are about $3,500-4,000. I eat out a...
outnumbered opaque degenerate
  06/07/25
I'm looking for about 6k after tax
Comical white mad-dog skullcap becky
  06/07/25
To what country? Usa is a shithole https://www.foxnews.com/...
glittery yarmulke hell
  06/08/25
Only if it were guaranteed to increase with inflation. We pr...
marvelous center
  06/08/25
Doctors haven't had any increase in Medicare payments since ...
glittery yarmulke hell
  06/08/25


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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: outnumbered opaque degenerate

Fixed expenses of $2,000/mo (property taxes, utilities, internet, streaming, etc.)

I have low cost healthcare because I'm 1/8 indigenous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995599)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:24 PM
Author: unhinged odious parlor electric furnace

I plan on retiring on approximately 8K/month with no mortgage. If you can't retire with six figures yearly, debt free, you're doing something seriously wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995603)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: outnumbered opaque degenerate

I turn 49 next week, and I'm done with it all.

Hopefully retirement amount will go up when I turn 62, if SS is still a thing. I don't know how, but I think I've maed it. Frugal inceldom for the W.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995612)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: unhinged odious parlor electric furnace

Retiring that early with that much cash really only leaves you vulnerable to catastrophic medical expenses. If you have good insurance you should be ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995632)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: outnumbered opaque degenerate

the alternative is killself, which seems more catastrophic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995637)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: vivacious space

healthcare eats up like 25k of post-tax for a gold/family plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996650)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: glittery yarmulke hell

Can you explain how that really works? I have Health insurance as part of my job but never go to doctors.. so they pay for nothing.. I'm thinking of going 1099. Could I rely on just going abroad for Healthcare? Like malaysia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996664)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: vivacious space

health insurance is basically for

a. pre-negotiated rates. if you're a cash payer, the first bill you get will be based on the hospital's outrageous book rate for a procedure.

b. catastrophic coverage. if you have to go for surgery, cancer, etc the bills, based on those inflated rate cards, will take almost anyone into bankruptcy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996694)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: glittery yarmulke hell

Yeah I know that. In countries like Malaysia you get A+ insurance/hospital for 1/10 the price. So if you're going to retire why not pick a country like Malaysia for your health home. You just happen to be fucked if you get a heart attack while in usa. But then you're fucked anyway. Most people don't really survive a heart attack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996702)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: vivacious space

america has it's faults, but my guess is most people who spent their entire life here do not want to retire in malaysia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996742)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: Aromatic hairless chapel

id do it on 6K month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995615)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:28 PM
Author: outnumbered opaque degenerate

I might learn spanish and hie thee to costa rica

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995621)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: Aromatic hairless chapel

actually thinking of doing this in next couple months, i have had it with all the shit and more shit, so done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995627)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: outnumbered opaque degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995633)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: concupiscible translucent forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995624)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: fragrant stubborn dilemma

the better question is how fucking retarded would you have to be not to? That is a very decent amount of money but not enough to suggest that you are on the verge of making tens of millions of dollars, which you would have to do to meaningfully change your life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995635)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: outnumbered opaque degenerate

I'm thinking the same thing, I'm not striving for a RSF/CSLG lifestyle. I just want to get high and golf occasionally. Maybe go on a couple of minor vacations a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995640)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: Aromatic hairless chapel

this sounds 180 except change golf to hiking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995653)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: mauve tantric sandwich personal credit line

That would require $7 million invested. Most people will say you can retire with $7 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995646)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: outnumbered opaque degenerate

4.2mm with 1.2mm equity in home

1.2mm is in 401K that I don't think I can touch for another 6 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995650)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: mauve tantric sandwich personal credit line

How are you going to get $144k annually after tax out of that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995654)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: outnumbered opaque degenerate

How are you not? The 4% rule is garbage, and who said anything about after tax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995660)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 1:35 AM
Author: mauve tantric sandwich personal credit line

It's the three percent rule now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996136)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: umber flickering knife

lol i'm about to retire on $4500/mo. $12k would be nuts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995680)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: yellow theatre

Total monthly expenses now?

Expected total monthly expenses in retirement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995683)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: outnumbered opaque degenerate

Current monthly expenses are about $3,500-4,000. I eat out a lot, and if I were retired, I'd probably cook more often.

No wife or kids

I think I'll travel more, averaged out over the course of the year, I think my budget would be 6,000/mo. I'm trying to find reasons not to retire and I'm shooting blanks.

I'll probably golf more, or maybe find some new hobbies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995745)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:18 PM
Author: Comical white mad-dog skullcap becky

I'm looking for about 6k after tax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995733)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: glittery yarmulke hell

To what country?

Usa is a shithole https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-sex-trafficking-victim-pardoned-president-trump-reveals-disturbing-secrets-legal-brothel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996609)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: marvelous center

Only if it were guaranteed to increase with inflation. We probably will resort to hyperinflation to get out of our looming debt crisis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996639)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:36 AM
Author: glittery yarmulke hell

Doctors haven't had any increase in Medicare payments since 2008. So any inflation brings doctors closer to taxi drivers. The only way for me to make it is invest in inflation adjusted assets like Amazon and bitcoin(too late)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996660)