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Would you retire on 12K/mo with no debt or mortgage?

Fixed expenses of $2,000/mo (property taxes, utilities, inte...
Bat-shit-crazy lake locale
  06/07/25
I plan on retiring on approximately 8K/month with no mortgag...
Onyx nighttime masturbator
  06/07/25
I turn 49 next week, and I'm done with it all. Hopefully...
Bat-shit-crazy lake locale
  06/07/25
Retiring that early with that much cash really only leaves y...
Onyx nighttime masturbator
  06/07/25
the alternative is killself, which seems more catastrophic
Bat-shit-crazy lake locale
  06/07/25
healthcare eats up like 25k of post-tax for a gold/family pl...
naked turquoise theater stage laser beams
  06/08/25
Can you explain how that really works? I have Health insuran...
Vibrant main people center
  06/08/25
health insurance is basically for a. pre-negotiated rates...
naked turquoise theater stage laser beams
  06/08/25
Yeah I know that. In countries like Malaysia you get A+ insu...
Vibrant main people center
  06/08/25
america has it's faults, but my guess is most people who spe...
naked turquoise theater stage laser beams
  06/08/25
id do it on 6K month
plum curious foreskin
  06/07/25
I might learn spanish and hie thee to costa rica
Bat-shit-crazy lake locale
  06/07/25
actually thinking of doing this in next couple months, i hav...
plum curious foreskin
  06/07/25
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Bat-shit-crazy lake locale
  06/07/25
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Vigorous glassy home
  06/07/25
the better question is how fucking retarded would you have t...
chestnut antidepressant drug
  06/07/25
I'm thinking the same thing, I'm not striving for a RSF/CSLG...
Bat-shit-crazy lake locale
  06/07/25
this sounds 180 except change golf to hiking
plum curious foreskin
  06/07/25
That would require $7 million invested. Most people will sa...
trip school cafeteria background story
  06/07/25
4.2mm with 1.2mm equity in home 1.2mm is in 401K that I d...
Bat-shit-crazy lake locale
  06/07/25
How are you going to get $144k annually after tax out of tha...
trip school cafeteria background story
  06/07/25
How are you not? The 4% rule is garbage, and who said anythi...
Bat-shit-crazy lake locale
  06/07/25
It's the three percent rule now
trip school cafeteria background story
  06/08/25
lol i'm about to retire on $4500/mo. $12k would be nuts.
razzle-dazzle sickened range
  06/07/25
Total monthly expenses now? Expected total monthly expens...
electric talking space liquid oxygen
  06/07/25
Current monthly expenses are about $3,500-4,000. I eat out a...
Bat-shit-crazy lake locale
  06/07/25
I'm looking for about 6k after tax
Racy parlour
  06/07/25
To what country? Usa is a shithole https://www.foxnews.com/...
Vibrant main people center
  06/08/25
Only if it were guaranteed to increase with inflation. We pr...
Motley tan useless brakes ticket booth
  06/08/25
Doctors haven't had any increase in Medicare payments since ...
Vibrant main people center
  06/08/25


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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy lake locale

Fixed expenses of $2,000/mo (property taxes, utilities, internet, streaming, etc.)

I have low cost healthcare because I'm 1/8 indigenous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995599)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:24 PM
Author: Onyx nighttime masturbator

I plan on retiring on approximately 8K/month with no mortgage. If you can't retire with six figures yearly, debt free, you're doing something seriously wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995603)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy lake locale

I turn 49 next week, and I'm done with it all.

Hopefully retirement amount will go up when I turn 62, if SS is still a thing. I don't know how, but I think I've maed it. Frugal inceldom for the W.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995612)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: Onyx nighttime masturbator

Retiring that early with that much cash really only leaves you vulnerable to catastrophic medical expenses. If you have good insurance you should be ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995632)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy lake locale

the alternative is killself, which seems more catastrophic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995637)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: naked turquoise theater stage laser beams

healthcare eats up like 25k of post-tax for a gold/family plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996650)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: Vibrant main people center

Can you explain how that really works? I have Health insurance as part of my job but never go to doctors.. so they pay for nothing.. I'm thinking of going 1099. Could I rely on just going abroad for Healthcare? Like malaysia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996664)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: naked turquoise theater stage laser beams

health insurance is basically for

a. pre-negotiated rates. if you're a cash payer, the first bill you get will be based on the hospital's outrageous book rate for a procedure.

b. catastrophic coverage. if you have to go for surgery, cancer, etc the bills, based on those inflated rate cards, will take almost anyone into bankruptcy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996694)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: Vibrant main people center

Yeah I know that. In countries like Malaysia you get A+ insurance/hospital for 1/10 the price. So if you're going to retire why not pick a country like Malaysia for your health home. You just happen to be fucked if you get a heart attack while in usa. But then you're fucked anyway. Most people don't really survive a heart attack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996702)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: naked turquoise theater stage laser beams

america has it's faults, but my guess is most people who spent their entire life here do not want to retire in malaysia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996742)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: plum curious foreskin

id do it on 6K month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995615)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:28 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy lake locale

I might learn spanish and hie thee to costa rica

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995621)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: plum curious foreskin

actually thinking of doing this in next couple months, i have had it with all the shit and more shit, so done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995627)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy lake locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995633)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: Vigorous glassy home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995624)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: chestnut antidepressant drug

the better question is how fucking retarded would you have to be not to? That is a very decent amount of money but not enough to suggest that you are on the verge of making tens of millions of dollars, which you would have to do to meaningfully change your life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995635)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy lake locale

I'm thinking the same thing, I'm not striving for a RSF/CSLG lifestyle. I just want to get high and golf occasionally. Maybe go on a couple of minor vacations a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995640)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: plum curious foreskin

this sounds 180 except change golf to hiking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995653)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: trip school cafeteria background story

That would require $7 million invested. Most people will say you can retire with $7 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995646)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy lake locale

4.2mm with 1.2mm equity in home

1.2mm is in 401K that I don't think I can touch for another 6 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995650)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: trip school cafeteria background story

How are you going to get $144k annually after tax out of that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995654)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy lake locale

How are you not? The 4% rule is garbage, and who said anything about after tax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995660)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 1:35 AM
Author: trip school cafeteria background story

It's the three percent rule now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996136)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle sickened range

lol i'm about to retire on $4500/mo. $12k would be nuts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995680)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: electric talking space liquid oxygen

Total monthly expenses now?

Expected total monthly expenses in retirement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995683)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy lake locale

Current monthly expenses are about $3,500-4,000. I eat out a lot, and if I were retired, I'd probably cook more often.

No wife or kids

I think I'll travel more, averaged out over the course of the year, I think my budget would be 6,000/mo. I'm trying to find reasons not to retire and I'm shooting blanks.

I'll probably golf more, or maybe find some new hobbies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995745)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:18 PM
Author: Racy parlour

I'm looking for about 6k after tax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48995733)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: Vibrant main people center

To what country?

Usa is a shithole https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-sex-trafficking-victim-pardoned-president-trump-reveals-disturbing-secrets-legal-brothel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996609)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: Motley tan useless brakes ticket booth

Only if it were guaranteed to increase with inflation. We probably will resort to hyperinflation to get out of our looming debt crisis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996639)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:36 AM
Author: Vibrant main people center

Doctors haven't had any increase in Medicare payments since 2008. So any inflation brings doctors closer to taxi drivers. The only way for me to make it is invest in inflation adjusted assets like Amazon and bitcoin(too late)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2)#48996660)