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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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submissive razzle office
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
High-end Useless Brakes Abode
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
High-end Useless Brakes Abode
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
indigo sanctuary mad-dog skullcap
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Talented Kitchen Clown
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Diverse lettuce lay
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Puce curious double fault
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Puce curious double fault
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Puce curious double fault
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Rose Magical House
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
seedy metal temple
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
heady haunted graveyard gaping
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
submissive razzle office
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Adulterous very tactful crackhouse
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
bistre concupiscible toaster immigrant
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Glittery Bipolar Azn
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
submissive razzle office
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
turquoise electric main people theatre
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/26/25
...
Ebony Razzmatazz Trust Fund
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Drunken dun public bath
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
lemon histrionic church building weed whacker
  06/26/25
...
180 mauve puppy
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Chestnut vivacious ratface market
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
embarrassed to the bone greedy principal's office
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Chest-beating Alpha
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
embarrassed to the bone greedy principal's office
  06/27/25
How was penn?
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Diverse lettuce lay
  06/27/25
...
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Maize Swollen Mad Cow Disease
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
embarrassed to the bone greedy principal's office
  06/27/25
...
bright impertinent shrine doctorate
  06/27/25
...
buff racy people who are hurt den
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Chest-beating Alpha
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Diverse lettuce lay
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
stimulating internet-worthy pit personal credit line
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Drunken dun public bath
  06/27/25
...
avocado lascivious business firm
  06/27/25
...
aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: submissive razzle office

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: High-end Useless Brakes Abode

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: High-end Useless Brakes Abode

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: indigo sanctuary mad-dog skullcap

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Talented Kitchen Clown

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Diverse lettuce lay

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Puce curious double fault

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Puce curious double fault

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Puce curious double fault

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Rose Magical House

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: seedy metal temple

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: heady haunted graveyard gaping

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: submissive razzle office

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Adulterous very tactful crackhouse

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: bistre concupiscible toaster immigrant

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Glittery Bipolar Azn

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: submissive razzle office

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: turquoise electric main people theatre

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Ebony Razzmatazz Trust Fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Drunken dun public bath

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: lemon histrionic church building weed whacker

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: 180 mauve puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Chestnut vivacious ratface market

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone greedy principal's office

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Chest-beating Alpha

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone greedy principal's office

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Diverse lettuce lay

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Maize Swollen Mad Cow Disease

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone greedy principal's office

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: bright impertinent shrine doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: buff racy people who are hurt den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Chest-beating Alpha

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Diverse lettuce lay

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: stimulating internet-worthy pit personal credit line

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Drunken dun public bath

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: avocado lascivious business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: aphrodisiac opaque fortuitous meteor rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053817)