Die retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5589931&forum_id=2)#48067395)

had some cr stuff, some silly stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5589931&forum_id=2)#48070655)

Ligotti put it best:

"For Schopenhauer, the fallout from his negations has been that he takes up far less floor space in the museum of modern thought than does his fellow German and antagonist Friedrich Nietzsche. Schopenhauer promises nothing but extinction for the individual following the postmortem recall of his “true nature” as a tiny parcel of the personless and ever-roiling Will.

Nietzsche borrows from religion and sermonizes that, although we will not be delivered into the afterlives of his ecclesiastic models, we must be willing in spirit to reprise this life again and again to its tiniest detail for all eternity. As unappealing as repeating our lives even once may seem to some of us, we are not the ones who make a writer’s reputation.

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Among other things, Nietzsche is famed as a promoter of human survival, just as long as enough of the survivors follow his lead as a perverted pessimist—one who has consecrated himself to loving life exactly because it is the worst thing imaginable, a sadomasochistic joyride through the twists and turns of being unto death...This irregular pessimism is the antinomy of the “normal” pessimism of Schopenhauer, who is philosophy’s red-headed stepchild because he is unequivocally on record as having said that being alive is not—and can never be—all right...For these offenses, his stature is rather low compared to that of other major thinkers, as is that of all philosophers who bear an unconcealed grudge against life.

Although both Schopenhauer and Nietzsche spoke only to an audience of atheists, Schopenhauer erred—from a public relations stance—by not according human beings any special status among the world of things organic and inorganic or trucking in any meaning to our existence. Contra Schopenhauer, Nietzsche not only took religious readings of life seriously enough to deprecate them at great length, but was hell-bent on replacing them with goal-oriented values and a sense of meaning that even nonbelievers beg for like dogs—some project in which individuals may lose (or find) themselves.

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In confederacy with those whom he believed himself to have surpassed in the race toward an undefined destiny, Nietzsche did what he could to keep the human pageant strolling toward … wherever. Even though he had the clarity of mind to recognize that values did not grow on trees nor were writ on stone tablets, he duped himself into thinking that it was possible to create them. But how these values would be created and what they would be he could not say. After demolishing the life-rejecting faith of the Crucified, Nietzsche handed down his own commandments through the Antichrist-like messiah Zarathustra, who was groomed to take over Christianity’s administration of the Western world and keep it afloat with counterfeit funds. Carrying around a sackload of unrealities from here to the eternal return, perhaps no one has ever been as “normal” as Nietzsche."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5589931&forum_id=2)#49002637)

shitlibs do the same thing with both these authors. there are actually shitlib "nietzsche scholars" and "schopenhaur scholars" who fervently maintain that both of these guys were dyed in the wool shitlibs. not flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5589931&forum_id=2)#49002666)

all "philosophical pessimists" - schopenhaur included - are not actually pessimists about the human condition. they're just running shtick. schopenhaur lived a long and full and successful and healthy life and had many friends and romantic companions

everyone who is smart and philosophically inclined develops their own philosophical shtick. "pessimism" is just one of many possible shticks. schopenhaur had a lot of useful ideas which is why he was held in such high regard by nietzsche and others

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5589931&forum_id=2)#49002680)

The Duke of She informed Confucius, saying, “Among us here there are those who may be styled upright in their conduct. If their father have stolen a sheep, they will bear witness to the fact.” Confucius said, “Among us, in our part of the country, those who are upright are different from this. The father conceals the misconduct of the son, and the son conceals the misconduct of the father. Uprightness is to be found in this.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5589931&forum_id=2)#49197509)