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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
self-centered crawly son of senegal
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
high-end resort
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Bearded startling parlour background story
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Orange kitchen corn cake
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Bearded startling parlour background story
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Orange kitchen corn cake
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Bearded startling parlour background story
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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Claret half-breed point
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
provocative circlehead
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: self-centered crawly son of senegal

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: high-end resort

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: high-end resort

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: high-end resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: high-end resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: high-end resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: high-end resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: high-end resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: high-end resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: high-end resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: high-end resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: high-end resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Bearded startling parlour background story

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Orange kitchen corn cake

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Bearded startling parlour background story

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Orange kitchen corn cake

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Bearded startling parlour background story

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: histrionic swollen den

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: cordovan pontificating house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Claret half-breed point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: bespoke ebony wagecucks

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Exhilarant immigrant shrine

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: adventurous locale regret

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: histrionic swollen den

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: provocative circlehead

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Greedy kitty cat

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Odious bisexual pisswyrm stead

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105022)