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5-10 years... "biglawyers" = lamplighters out of work

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clear property gaming laptop
  07/18/25
God willing
hyperactive hyperventilating messiness principal's office
  07/18/25
Inshallah
clear property gaming laptop
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gold den
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clear property gaming laptop
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nickel endimed
Rebellious ceo really tough guy
  07/18/25
What happens next though? Clearly we still have lawyers ...
heady big-titted goal in life
  07/18/25
Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling m...
Frum house striped hyena
  07/18/25
What is the bulk of your business
Sooty Alpha
  07/18/25
The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions...
Frum house striped hyena
  07/18/25
lol 180
Judgmental twinkling uncleanness
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180
Sooty Alpha
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Maroon provocative base
  07/19/25
prole squabbles, llp
dashing iridescent church cuck
  07/18/25
UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologi...
Adulterous native
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clear property gaming laptop
  07/18/25
how about we just have billionaires who "lord" ove...
Glittery trust fund
  07/18/25
Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money ...
topaz histrionic party of the first part immigrant
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clear property gaming laptop
  07/18/25
I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impr...
Comical Drunken Menage
  07/18/25
I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capa...
hateful big codepig hospital
  07/18/25
It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there&rsqu...
hairless parlour patrolman
  07/18/25
Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro ...
hateful big codepig hospital
  07/18/25
It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucina...
hairless parlour patrolman
  07/18/25
Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex lo...
hairless parlour patrolman
  07/18/25
Coping fag hello
hairless parlour patrolman
  07/18/25
You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to ...
hateful big codepig hospital
  07/18/25
Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to...
Bearded Bawdyhouse
  07/18/25
Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of s...
hairless parlour patrolman
  07/19/25
Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argu...
Excitant Windowlicker
  07/19/25
Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law produ...
hairless parlour patrolman
  07/19/25
OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants
Hairraiser maize famous landscape painting orchestra pit
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Cheese-eating multi-colored coldplay fan stain
  07/19/25
I wish.
wild bateful dysfunction
  07/18/25
Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. ...
pearl vigorous resort newt
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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:16 AM
Author: clear property gaming laptop



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:23 AM
Author: hyperactive hyperventilating messiness principal's office

God willing

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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: clear property gaming laptop

Inshallah

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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: gold den



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: clear property gaming laptop



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Rebellious ceo really tough guy

nickel endimed

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Date: July 18th, 2025 6:33 AM
Author: heady big-titted goal in life

What happens next though?

Clearly we still have lawyers and law firms, but perhaps the firm headcount drops to 10% the current headcount, and AI/software picks up the slack.

In that world, is the firm owned by just a handful of partners? Do law firms start to act like lean software companies? When does a U.S. firm IPO?

The counterpoint btw is that we just do a lot more work that was prohibitively expensive before. For example, I probably see 25+ cease and desist letters for every lawsuit, because letters cost $5-10k and lawsuits cost $100k to initiate and $5M+ to litigate through summary judgment. If cost of litigation drops [80%] people may file many more lawsuits. There could be an analogous dynamic on the corporate/business side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111194)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Frum house striped hyena

Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling me virtually every day because their "friend" cheated them out of $300 or something. I tell them it doesn't make financial sense to pursue that and they start crying. There's a big untapped market out there for adjudicating squabbles among proles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111342)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Sooty Alpha

What is the bulk of your business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111384)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Frum house striped hyena

The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions, construction disputes, zoning issues. Tons of lawsuits over exactly who owns some piece of land, often with a rotting mobile home sitting on it. Average client expenditure is about $3000, but that varies wildly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111405)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: Judgmental twinkling uncleanness

lol 180

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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Sooty Alpha

180

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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: Maroon provocative base



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: dashing iridescent church cuck

prole squabbles, llp

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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: Adulterous native

UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologies)for the technologists or corporations replacing people with chatbots needs to be scrutinized and tracked ASAP to start determining the amount owed to the american citizenry

it's critical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111414)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: clear property gaming laptop



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: Glittery trust fund

how about we just have billionaires who "lord" over us and poors who you could say serve or maybe "serf" them and then anyone who doesn't go along with this gets to die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49113524)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: topaz histrionic party of the first part immigrant

Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money as soon as you fucking can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111417)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: clear property gaming laptop



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Comical Drunken Menage

I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impressed. It helps, it certainly makes us more productive, but major reductions in headcount? Also, everyone keeps saying wait another year. But we’re a couple of years in and the capabilities (at least as applied to law) seem about the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111420)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: hateful big codepig hospital

I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capabilities have skyrocketed over the past two years and there's no reason that wouldn't apply to law if it applies subjects that are at least as complex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111435)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: hairless parlour patrolman

It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there’s no objectively correct answer unlike coding or whatever. Here’s a better explanation why law is harder to master for AI than coding.

Coding is governed by strict syntax and deterministic rules. A given input in a programming language will always produce the same output if the code is correct.

• Legal analysis involves ambiguous language, conflicting authorities, policy tradeoffs, and context-sensitive reasoning—skills that require human judgment and real-world understanding.

AI has been trained on massive open-source code repositories like GitHub, with clear labels, documentation, and results. This data is abundant, consistent, and high-quality.

• Legal data is more fragmented:

• Case law is often behind paywalls.

• Court decisions may be long, inconsistent, or involve complex procedural postures.

• Outcomes are not always “correct” or universally agreed upon.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111495)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: hateful big codepig hospital

Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro can absolutely handle textual nuance and complex questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: hairless parlour patrolman

It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucinations or misstatements of the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111526)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: hairless parlour patrolman

Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex logic, unlike coding, there’s no single correct answer to the important questions that get litigated, the legal background is often contradictory and nuanced so you can’t just train it easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111634)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: hairless parlour patrolman

Coping fag hello

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111710)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: hateful big codepig hospital

You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to generate responses when there isn't an objectively correct answer, there isn't much else to say. If anything law being subjective bullshit will make it easier to automate. When I deal with ai skeptics these days I mostly just wait for reality to prove them wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111715)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Bearded Bawdyhouse

Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to replace paralegals and juniors to have an enormous impact, which it pretty much already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49112807)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: hairless parlour patrolman

Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of saying “I’m just wrong” with no explanation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49113912)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Excitant Windowlicker

Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argument to the answer it just gave you

(delete the em dash next time you retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49113914)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: hairless parlour patrolman

Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law products are pretty shit for any complex practice.

No doubt that people who rely on making money through teams of 20 paralegals filling out forms and doing rote tasks will change a lot but automating such repetitive thoughtless tasks is entirely different than writing a compelling brief based on nuanced and complex facts in an uncertain area of law.

It most likely will be similar to how word processing eliminated a lot of support positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49114500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Hairraiser maize famous landscape painting orchestra pit

OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111438)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 1:33 AM
Author: Cheese-eating multi-colored coldplay fan stain



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: wild bateful dysfunction

I wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111468)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: pearl vigorous resort newt

Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. Add on top that people using it are dumber. All AI is going to do is maybe help the few smart people left do stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2)#49111741)