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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
black church building windowlicker
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Galvanic cordovan rigpig giraffe
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Thriller chestnut institution associate
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Galvanic cordovan rigpig giraffe
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Thriller chestnut institution associate
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Galvanic cordovan rigpig giraffe
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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blathering wrinkle tattoo
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
know-it-all background story state
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: black church building windowlicker

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Obsidian fiercely-loyal ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49143857)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Galvanic cordovan rigpig giraffe

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Thriller chestnut institution associate

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Galvanic cordovan rigpig giraffe

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Thriller chestnut institution associate

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Galvanic cordovan rigpig giraffe

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: charismatic metal locus

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: henna ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: blathering wrinkle tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: fluffy ticket booth cumskin

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Olive kitty cat

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: fragrant chapel

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: charismatic metal locus

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: know-it-all background story state

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: stimulating tantric indian lodge

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Splenetic maroon legal warrant

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105022)