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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Violent exciting brunch
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Diverse Black Woman
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Orange embarrassed to the bone principal's office
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Diverse Black Woman
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Orange embarrassed to the bone principal's office
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
crimson bbw nursing home
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
sick splenetic business firm
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Diverse Black Woman
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
high-end shimmering lodge
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
fiercely-loyal parlour
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
irradiated plum newt property
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Diverse Black Woman
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
irradiated plum newt property
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
irradiated plum newt property
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Diverse Black Woman
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
ungodly hospital wrinkle
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Diverse Black Woman
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Diverse Black Woman
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Diverse Black Woman
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
motley gas station feces
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Yellow Chapel
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
high-end shimmering lodge
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Diverse Black Woman
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Violent exciting brunch
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Diverse Black Woman
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Hideous frisky tank pit
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Geriatric Out-of-control Meetinghouse Double Fault
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
mewling partner goal in life
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Violent exciting brunch
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
yapping rehab
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Diverse Black Woman
  06/26/25
...
elite excitant gunner
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
rose university
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
red codepig
  06/26/25
...
avocado racy affirmative action
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Electric jap deer antler
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Pungent step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
maroon fantasy-prone legal warrant patrolman
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Diverse Black Woman
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Pungent step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Diverse Black Woman
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
high-end shimmering lodge
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
fiercely-loyal parlour
  06/27/25
...
Diverse Black Woman
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Vermilion candlestick maker
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Pungent step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
...
Nofapping Saffron Becky
  06/27/25
...
Diverse Black Woman
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
maroon fantasy-prone legal warrant patrolman
  06/27/25
How is STB?
fiercely-loyal parlour
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
rebellious cuck native
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
high-end shimmering lodge
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
rose university
  06/27/25
...
wonderful national security agency lay
  06/27/25
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high-end shimmering lodge
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Violent exciting brunch

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Orange embarrassed to the bone principal's office

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Orange embarrassed to the bone principal's office

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: crimson bbw nursing home

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: sick splenetic business firm

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: high-end shimmering lodge

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal parlour

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: irradiated plum newt property

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: irradiated plum newt property

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: irradiated plum newt property

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: ungodly hospital wrinkle

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: motley gas station feces

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Yellow Chapel

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: high-end shimmering lodge

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Violent exciting brunch

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Hideous frisky tank pit

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Geriatric Out-of-control Meetinghouse Double Fault

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: mewling partner goal in life

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Violent exciting brunch

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: yapping rehab

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: elite excitant gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: rose university

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: red codepig

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: avocado racy affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Electric jap deer antler

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Pungent step-uncle's house

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: maroon fantasy-prone legal warrant patrolman

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Pungent step-uncle's house

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Diverse Black Woman

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: high-end shimmering lodge

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal parlour

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Diverse Black Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Vermilion candlestick maker

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Pungent step-uncle's house

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Nofapping Saffron Becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Diverse Black Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: maroon fantasy-prone legal warrant patrolman

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal parlour

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: rebellious cuck native

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: high-end shimmering lodge

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: rose university

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: wonderful national security agency lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: high-end shimmering lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053817)