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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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beady-eyed cyan step-uncle's house
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
galvanic place of business pit
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
charismatic at-the-ready lay ape
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
galvanic place of business pit
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
charismatic at-the-ready lay ape
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
sadistic casino
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
ebony trip gaming laptop
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
galvanic place of business pit
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Soul-stirring idiot
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
bossy curious locus cumskin
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Well-lubricated Brunch Scourge Upon The Earth
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
galvanic place of business pit
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Well-lubricated Brunch Scourge Upon The Earth
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Well-lubricated Brunch Scourge Upon The Earth
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
galvanic place of business pit
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
provocative spot
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
galvanic place of business pit
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
galvanic place of business pit
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
galvanic place of business pit
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
hot cerebral native
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
pea-brained heaven
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Soul-stirring idiot
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
galvanic place of business pit
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
beady-eyed cyan step-uncle's house
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
galvanic place of business pit
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
submissive ruby kitty cat abode
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
fragrant doobsian area turdskin
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
offensive mustard toilet seat
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
beady-eyed cyan step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
henna floppy degenerate
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
galvanic place of business pit
  06/26/25
...
Ultramarine heady gay wizard philosopher-king
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Light Den Marketing Idea
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
milky idea he suggested
  06/26/25
...
lilac athletic conference school
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
onyx brethren
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
frisky out-of-control temple
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Lavender apoplectic double fault
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
galvanic place of business pit
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
frisky out-of-control temple
  06/27/25
How was penn?
galvanic place of business pit
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Soul-stirring idiot
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
bossy curious locus cumskin
  06/27/25
...
galvanic place of business pit
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
exciting reading party national
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
frisky out-of-control temple
  06/27/25
...
mind-boggling rehab juggernaut
  06/27/25
...
galvanic place of business pit
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Lavender apoplectic double fault
  06/27/25
How is STB?
bossy curious locus cumskin
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Boyish party of the first part hell
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Soul-stirring idiot
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Light Den Marketing Idea
  06/27/25
...
dashing meetinghouse corn cake
  06/27/25
...
Soul-stirring idiot
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: beady-eyed cyan step-uncle's house

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: charismatic at-the-ready lay ape

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: charismatic at-the-ready lay ape

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: sadistic casino

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: ebony trip gaming laptop

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Soul-stirring idiot

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: bossy curious locus cumskin

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Brunch Scourge Upon The Earth

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Brunch Scourge Upon The Earth

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Brunch Scourge Upon The Earth

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: provocative spot

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: hot cerebral native

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: pea-brained heaven

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring idiot

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: beady-eyed cyan step-uncle's house

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: submissive ruby kitty cat abode

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: fragrant doobsian area turdskin

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: offensive mustard toilet seat

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: beady-eyed cyan step-uncle's house

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: henna floppy degenerate

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Ultramarine heady gay wizard philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Light Den Marketing Idea

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: milky idea he suggested

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: lilac athletic conference school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: onyx brethren

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: frisky out-of-control temple

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Lavender apoplectic double fault

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: frisky out-of-control temple

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: galvanic place of business pit

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Soul-stirring idiot

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: bossy curious locus cumskin

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: galvanic place of business pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: exciting reading party national

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: frisky out-of-control temple

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: mind-boggling rehab juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: galvanic place of business pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Lavender apoplectic double fault

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: bossy curious locus cumskin

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Boyish party of the first part hell

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Soul-stirring idiot

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Light Den Marketing Idea

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: dashing meetinghouse corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Soul-stirring idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053817)