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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Rusted Parlour
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
mind-boggling stage preventive strike
  03/19/18
it's despicable
Rusted Parlour
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
swollen school cafeteria chad
  03/19/18
lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
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i gave my cousin head
  08/04/25
Trendash for life. What the fuck?
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fluffy office deer antler
  03/19/18
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Painfully honest comical marketing idea orchestra pit
  03/19/18
This literally does not exist in the English language. I hav...
Rusted Parlour
  03/19/18
(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers ...
fluffy office deer antler
  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
Rusted Parlour
  03/19/18
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charismatic circlehead
  03/19/18
Is this flame
Bespoke hyperactive coldplay fan really tough guy
  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
Curious field
  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
buff mental disorder
  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
Rusted Parlour
  03/19/18
cr, huge patent prole tell
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  03/21/18
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Razzmatazz sanctuary azn
  03/19/18
i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
Slap-happy plum boltzmann
  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
Rusted Parlour
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
soul-stirring drab hospital
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Rusted Parlour
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
soul-stirring drab hospital
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
At-the-ready Hall
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
fluffy office deer antler
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
Fishy Point
  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Rusted Parlour
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
Bespoke hyperactive coldplay fan really tough guy
  03/19/18
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fluffy office deer antler
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
mind-boggling stage preventive strike
  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
diverse dragon sandwich
  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
mind-boggling stage preventive strike
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Rusted Parlour
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
mind-boggling stage preventive strike
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
At-the-ready Hall
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
Razzmatazz sanctuary azn
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
At-the-ready Hall
  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
Razzmatazz sanctuary azn
  03/19/18
...
At-the-ready Hall
  03/19/18
Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this ...
Fishy Point
  03/19/18
Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but t...
diverse dragon sandwich
  03/19/18
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At-the-ready Hall
  03/19/18
nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck abou...
At-the-ready Hall
  03/19/18
*BEEP BEEP BEEP*
pontificating deranged forum
  03/19/18
killself
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  03/20/18
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dull boyish brethren
  03/20/18
I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
Gold Gaped Ticket Booth Macaca
  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
hairraiser tank
  05/12/18
The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the pr...
soul-stirring drab hospital
  05/12/18
Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell...
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  05/14/18


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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: mind-boggling stage preventive strike

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: swollen school cafeteria chad

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: fluffy office deer antler

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: talented mildly autistic garrison water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645246)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Pink irradiated gas station twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35658763)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: fluffy office deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36050284)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#49155425)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Deep hilarious fat ankles round eye

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: fluffy office deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641327)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Painfully honest comical marketing idea orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641346)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: fluffy office deer antler

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Razzmatazz sanctuary azn

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641427)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Arousing lake athletic conference selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645264)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Medicated School



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641354)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Magical national bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641366)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Arousing lake athletic conference selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641386)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: charismatic circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641406)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Bespoke hyperactive coldplay fan really tough guy

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Curious field

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: buff mental disorder

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: odious magenta lodge wrinkle

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Razzmatazz sanctuary azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641869)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Slap-happy plum boltzmann

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: soul-stirring drab hospital

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: soul-stirring drab hospital

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: At-the-ready Hall

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: fluffy office deer antler

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Fishy Point

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Bespoke hyperactive coldplay fan really tough guy

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: fluffy office deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: mind-boggling stage preventive strike

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: diverse dragon sandwich

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: mind-boggling stage preventive strike

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Rusted Parlour

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: mind-boggling stage preventive strike

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: At-the-ready Hall

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Razzmatazz sanctuary azn

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: At-the-ready Hall

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Razzmatazz sanctuary azn

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: At-the-ready Hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641859)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: Fishy Point

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: diverse dragon sandwich

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: At-the-ready Hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641861)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: At-the-ready Hall

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: pontificating deranged forum

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641759)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: razzle garnet new version mood

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Insanely creepy awkward stag film

alt 0151

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645233)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: dull boyish brethren

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Gold Gaped Ticket Booth Macaca

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: hairraiser tank

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: soul-stirring drab hospital

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: know-it-all cyan son of senegal immigrant

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36050530)