i was moshing with Vitek at Summer Slaughter before you attended your first show

i saw suffo before Mike left

i literally saw corpsegrinder perform with Trevor after making a Helvete pilgrimage

in actuality ive probably been to more shows than every "metalhead" on xoxo combined, you fucking poser dork lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48788978)

i saw CBGB before it closed - didnt attend any shows there but at least i saw the physical building

i was shopping at Generation Records before you even bought your first tour shirt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789001)

lol@ getting blown the fuck out after realizing NYUUG is literally a hardcore metalhead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789009)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48788992)

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723527&mc=36&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48922898)

dragonforce was fucking awful lmao. but im glad i caught them before they went full nintendard

rutan was brutal too, was with HE but wish i saw him w vital remains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789022)

I love the vocals on that album, but many don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789160)

metal is probably the only real music being produced today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789058)

bell witch would be an example of a metal band still making decent music

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789068)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789069)

Allegaeon did this well, but they simplified their later work a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789258)

Dio, Metallica, Maiden, Type O Negative etc

I especially like industrial metal but most people can’t handle it ime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789060)

https://youtu.be/ySGtniX4QrU?si=ikupniLU1U7CnbQC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789212)

Cryptopsy fans may not overlap with fans of My Dying Bride or Darkthrone. Early Paradise Lost fans may abhor their mid-career work. Sabbath fans may or may not like Cathedral.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789231)

Deathcrush is great, but it's also not good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789267)

and the album cover of dawn of the black hearts, which was also terrible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789315)

it's over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789059)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789475)

https://youtu.be/WIKqgE4BwAY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2C6y2UTll-k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48789501)

### 1. **Primitive Aggression vs. Psychedelic Blues**

- Hendrix's early work (*Are You Experienced*, 1967) was rooted in **blues-rock and psychedelia**, emphasizing extended solos, wah-wah textures, and melodic experimentation rather than the **raw, pounding aggression** that defines metal.

- **"Helter Skelter"** was deliberately crafted to be **loud, chaotic, and abrasive**—Paul McCartney explicitly wanted to create the "most raucous rock 'n' roll" ever recorded, pushing into proto-metal territory with its **distorted bass, screaming vocals, and relentless energy**.

### 2. **The Role of Drums & Rhythmic Drive**

- Ringo Starr's **thundering, repetitive drumming** on "Helter Skelter" (including his famous "I've got blisters on me fingers!" yell) mirrors the **driving, percussive force** of later metal.

- Hendrix's Mitch Mitchell, while incredible, leaned toward **jazz-influenced fills** rather than the **hammering, primal beats** that became a metal staple.

### 3. **The Birth of the "Heavy" Aesthetic**

- **"Helter Skelter"** is built on **dissonance, noise, and a sense of menace**—elements that Black Sabbath later expanded into doom metal. The song's **unhinged vocal delivery** (McCartney’s screams) and **wall-of-sound production** foreshadowed metal's intensity.

- Hendrix, while heavy for his time, was more about **sonic exploration** than the **brutal simplicity** that metal often thrives on. Even his heaviest tracks ("Purple Haze," "Foxey Lady") still feel **rooted in blues structures**, whereas "Helter Skelter" **abandons tradition for sheer force**.

### 4. **Influence on Early Metal Bands**

- **Black Sabbath** cited "Helter Skelter" as an influence on their sound, with Tony Iommi praising its **raw power**.

- **Lemmy of Motörhead** also credited The Beatles as a key inspiration for heavy music.

- While Hendrix inspired guitarists, **"Helter Skelter" directly shaped the attitude and sonic violence** of metal’s pioneers.

### 5. **The Cultural Shift**

- The **dark, chaotic energy** of "Helter Skelter" (even tied to Charles Manson’s twisted interpretation) aligns with metal’s later themes of **rebellion and darkness**.

- Hendrix was a **virtuoso**, but his music wasn’t aiming for the **brutal, primal** sound that metal codified—whereas The Beatles, ironically, **stumbled into it first**.

### **Conclusion:**

Hendrix expanded rock’s technical possibilities, but **"Helter Skelter"** was the first to **channel pure, unrefined heaviness**—making it the **true proto-metal blueprint**. It’s less about who was "heavier" first and more about **which song directly inspired the genre’s core sound**, and in that regard, The Beatles have the edge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48792261)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48792271)

https://youtu.be/8UbNbor3OqQ?si=b9mnDsxuQ9FIQHU0

1989

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvXaLZZ6M3M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700811&forum_id=2)#48922973)