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just returned from date, no kiss = friend-zoned?
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 12:42 AM Author: Vivacious Plaza to be fair, I didn't really make a move, but she didn't seem too inviting.
try again on second date? or give up? I asked her out to a movie on Friday and said, "ball's in your court." |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 3:18 PM Author: Pontificating vengeful corner Beta PWND!!!
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:52 PM Author: Flatulent Comical Candlestick Maker next date at chik-fil-a (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274643) |
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Date: September 20th, 2012 10:17 PM Author: Rusted arousing lay volcanic crater If a date goes poorly, I move in to miss anyway. Nothing to lose, everything to gain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21625570) |
Date: August 2nd, 2012 12:43 AM Author: Shaky Kitchen "ball's in your court." = ALPHA AS FUKKKK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238249) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:32 AM Author: awkward whorehouse i hope you're being sarcastic. bc that is an incredibly beta thing to say. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238695) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 3:12 PM Author: Boyish Chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21242143) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 12:43 AM Author: Metal incel seems like you already tried again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238252) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 12:46 AM Author: Vivacious Plaza I'll try harder on Friday. After the movie . . . or maybe ask her out to dinner?
God, why is so fucking hard to get laid at 23. I'm a fucking law student, not some slob. |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 6:32 PM Author: Bateful Saffron French Chef How about something that's not super awkward, where you can naturally make a move? Go to a bar. Play pool or darts or sit on the patio tables. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21243663) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 12:43 AM Author: godawful gaming laptop clown try once more (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238253) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 12:47 AM Author: Marvelous dark field my GF of two years and i didn't kiss until date 4 (though the circumstances surrounding dates 1-3 didn't leave a good kiss opportunity at the end) so yeah there's hope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238286) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 12:53 AM Author: Vivacious Plaza thanks broseph. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238354) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 9:33 PM Author: Titillating windowlicker brunch what circumstances surrounding dates 1-3? did u attend funerals with her? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21245178) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 9:34 PM Author: aqua wonderful idea he suggested alpha hard to kiss through prison glass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21245191) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 10:37 PM Author: Marvelous dark field date 1: i went in for the kiss, she sort of pre-empted me and dove in for a hug while facing away. i didn't think that this was a big deal since it was date 1.
dates 2-3: we went out to dinner to places not within walking distance of either of our apartments, and we were both getting off at different metro stops. i think doing a first kiss as you pull into a stop has the potential to be a bit awkward. also, we just went directly from dinner to the metro both times (she had plans with her sister after both dates) and didn't get drinks/walk around/hold hands or do too much to build intimacy beforehand. kind of awkward to dive into the first kiss without that sort of intimacy buildup IME.
dates 4-5 were more relaxed (walking around a park, eastern market, etc). |
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Date: September 20th, 2012 10:11 PM Author: Bisexual ungodly tanning salon is she Mormon
that said, hey, your on date 5? 6? if she didn't like you, there would not have been a date 2
anyway, hang in there little breh, you never know
also, alcohol helps
ps: this poast is from a female |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 12:55 AM Author: white theater stage i don't think so. if you're not getting a kiss by date three, you're probably in bad shape though. that said, most girls won't let it go beyond three dates if they aren't interested in ever kissing you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238375) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:00 AM Author: Metal incel try to not kiss her in the middle of the street (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238437) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:12 AM Author: domesticated newt Have you ever kissed anywhere interesting? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238542) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:13 AM Author: Metal incel no
what do you consider interesting |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:14 AM Author: domesticated newt Well, let's start with publicity. Have you ever made out with a lot of other people around? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238561) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:15 AM Author: Metal incel well yeah but that is pretty common (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238564) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:18 AM Author: domesticated newt In some situations. It would be odd, for instance, if I made out with a girl in the waiting room of a doctor's office. It would be even funnier if it were Planned Parenthood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238585) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:18 AM Author: Metal incel lol true. i just meant at a club (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238588) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:20 AM Author: domesticated newt I didn't know you fooled around with doods at clubs, girl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238604) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:22 AM Author: Metal incel yeah it wasn't enjoyable really though
i'm the only person who can please myself! |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:27 AM Author: domesticated newt I remember your early threads on the subject. Haven't seen you around as much since the CP thing got out of control. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238656) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:28 AM Author: Metal incel yah that kind of freaked me out and made me extra cautious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238664) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:31 AM Author: domesticated newt You were already pretty reserved, as I recall. Just a little casual flirting with CP and other bros that seemed to carry a torch for you, but you repeatedly disclaimed any intent to ever, say, fuck them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238689) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:33 AM Author: Metal incel oh yea for sure, i'd never do that. i wouldn't even exchange emails with someone, let alone meet them or have any contact with them, sexual or otherwise (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238706) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:13 AM Author: domesticated newt How big of a faggot are you normally, bro? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238549) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:15 AM Author: Vivacious Plaza :(
ETA: let's get actual women to express an opinion here. |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:17 AM Author: domesticated newt You've already had actual women express opinions. Still haven't show me why you're not a little bitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238580) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:19 AM Author: Vivacious Plaza I thought it went well. We have a ton in common and had like a two hour conversation over a few beers. Then I walked her home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238595) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:20 AM Author: domesticated newt I bet the conversation was just her ear fucking the shit out of you and you taking it with a smile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238602) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:20 AM Author: Metal incel so describe the non kiss moment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238603) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:22 AM Author: Vivacious Plaza again, to be fair, I never really made a move. I hugged her and said good night.
ETA: plus, she goes to school with me. |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:24 AM Author: Metal incel in what way was she not inviting
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:33 AM Author: Vivacious Plaza I guess I just mean she didn't initiate anything.
I just don't get why I'm so bad with women. But I really am terrible. And it hurts. I didn't pick this genetic combination. I can't control my height, or intelligence, or my weight. |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:34 AM Author: Metal incel i wouldn't take her not initiating anything as a sign that she's not into you though. depends on the girl obv, but she just may be the type to wait for you to do it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238719) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 2:01 AM Author: amethyst tantric fat ankles market Future law shrew? Avoid. Count your blessings and hit the closest bar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238855) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:20 AM Author: Costumed genital piercing sup doobie doobie doobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238599) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:24 AM Author: thriller area voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238637) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:25 AM Author: domesticated newt Does doobs even get dates to fuck up? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238647) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:26 AM Author: Costumed genital piercing he thinks they're dates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238652) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:35 AM Author: domesticated newt I should have gone bar hopping with him when I was in Buffalo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238724) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 3:12 PM Author: thriller area voyeur You passed that up?
Opportunity of a lifetime bro |
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Date: September 20th, 2012 10:15 PM Author: Bisexual ungodly tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21625547) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:34 AM Author: awkward whorehouse you're right "to be fair, I didn't really make a move," (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238715) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:27 AM Author: orchid painfully honest corn cake Not necessarily but it's a bad sign - and never say "ball's in your court" in a situation like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238655) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:27 AM Author: domesticated newt Lol, just lol at "ball's in your court." I can't think of many worse things to say. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238659) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:28 AM Author: orchid painfully honest corn cake I know I know. It's awful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238668) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:33 AM Author: Vivacious Plaza too late broseph. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238710) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:34 AM Author: domesticated newt lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21238716) |
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Date: September 20th, 2012 10:16 PM Author: Bisexual ungodly tanning salon its not that bad brother, and i am female (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21625559) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 1:50 AM Author: Blathering overrated marketing idea If you're good at giving hugs, you can usually close a 1st date well without a kiss. It has to be a 5+ second, very affectionate hug where you look her in the eyes. Downside for the XO sociopaths: this kind of affection is hard to fake-- you have to actually really like the girl-- and it's not "alpha"... but 15 seconds of betaness won't hurt you if the girl likes you.
Second date: go for the kiss. Have the right mentality, though. It's not something to "get"; it's something you give because you want her to experience a great kiss. (I am a 180 kisser, so this attitude works for me.) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 3:11 PM Author: narrow-minded box office tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21242139) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:10 PM Author: Cerise sadistic station son of senegal what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274340) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:13 PM Author: narrow-minded box office tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274359) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:46 PM Author: Cerise sadistic station son of senegal jesus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274604) |
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Date: August 7th, 2012 10:36 AM Author: narrow-minded box office tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21279235) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:26 PM Author: curious sex offender awwww (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274451) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 6:17 PM Author: Vivacious Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21243527) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 9:23 PM Author: Vivacious Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21245099) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 9:27 PM Author: Mildly autistic bearded boiling water Move on. She's probably asexual or at least low sex drive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21245133) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2012 9:34 PM Author: poppy deep organic girlfriend U need to mindfuck her asap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21245184) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:09 PM Author: narrow-minded box office tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274324) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:25 PM Author: black sticky becky juggernaut I think the best way to resolve the end-of-first-date kiss issue is to kiss her in the middle of the date (assuming you're at a bar or somewhere conducive to it, which you should be). Works almost all the time bc they aren't expecting it; it's also dominant and opens the possibility to further escalation at the end of the date. Very little downside because a girl is going to err on the side of letting you kiss her if she hasn't made up her mind that she's not into you, which she is more likely to do if she has an opportunity to think about it, as she will prior to the end-of-date kiss. Plus if she's already kissed you she's likely to engage in after-the-fact rationalization of the behavior, which will often get her to like you more.
Also in the unlikely event that she does balk you can bail early. |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:48 PM Author: Diverse stage kitty cat i pulled this once 10 mins after meeting a girl on a date. It worked well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274609) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:48 PM Author: Dashing Death Wish Digit Ratio where is she now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274614) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:49 PM Author: Diverse stage kitty cat no clue? sexing other marathis? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274617) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:49 PM Author: Dashing Death Wish Digit Ratio or dat BBC? how long did it last brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274618) |
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Date: August 6th, 2012 7:52 PM Author: Diverse stage kitty cat just 2 times. I banged her both times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21274637) |
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Date: August 8th, 2012 10:21 PM Author: narrow-minded box office tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21292621) |
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Date: September 20th, 2012 10:01 PM Author: Vivacious Plaza b a l l ' s _ i n _ y o u r _ c o u r t (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21625420) |
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Date: September 20th, 2012 10:12 PM Author: multi-colored indian lodge rigor It really gives me great pleasure to publicly diss a girl after she friendzoned me, particularly if I can diss her in front of the very guy who cockblocked me from her earlier, which cockblock facilitated her friendzoning me to begin with, because this way I get to signify to them both that I don't give a hoot about either of them. . .which is exactly what I did about thirty minutes ago but not before first getting something from the guy that was unrelated to the girl. I can't begin to express how happy I was to just diss her; I was surprised at myself for feeling so good about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#21625516) |
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Date: February 5th, 2013 8:35 PM Author: narrow-minded box office tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#22576491) |
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Date: February 28th, 2013 10:56 AM Author: Vivacious Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#22727165) |
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Date: February 28th, 2013 11:28 AM Author: Exciting Medicated Base No, the awkward end of first date kiss isn't terribly important. Need to make a move during the second date though, ideally before the end. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#22727299) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 3:50 AM Author: Ape Arrogance ball's in your court (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2011940&forum_id=2)#49909706) |