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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Brindle sweet tailpipe
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
razzle-dazzle market son of senegal
  06/15/18
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bearded tattoo
  06/15/18
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bearded tattoo
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
vibrant fortuitous meteor
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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  10/06/21
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razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  02/12/22
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Martin Skhreli
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
Indigo telephone
  06/15/18
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bearded tattoo
  06/15/18
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stubborn heaven
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Indigo telephone
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Orchid library
  06/15/18
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Copper Floppy Depressive
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
bearded tattoo
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
cyan ratface institution
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
sticky space people who are hurt
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Soul-stirring black woman kitchen
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
vibrant fortuitous meteor
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Indigo telephone
  06/15/18
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Copper Floppy Depressive
  06/15/18
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stubborn heaven
  06/15/18
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stubborn heaven
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alcoholic temple kitty
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  10/06/21
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razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
Talking step-uncle's house
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
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  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
metal public bath macaca
  06/15/18
Explain
razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  06/15/18
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razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
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razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  09/04/18
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alcoholic temple kitty
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
Cerise Fat Ankles
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
magenta rebellious roommate police squad
  06/15/18
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razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  02/12/21
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big-titted bawdyhouse round eye
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stubborn heaven
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razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
greedy dog poop community account
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
hot corner mexican
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
territorial mediation quadroon
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
territorial mediation quadroon
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
maroon supple pocket flask
  02/12/21
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big-titted bawdyhouse round eye
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
greedy dog poop community account
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
maroon supple pocket flask
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
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  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
maroon supple pocket flask
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
aqua athletic conference orchestra pit
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
hot corner mexican
  02/12/21
lol no
seedy stage
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
Azure internet-worthy party of the first part
  02/15/21
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razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
  06/29/21
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razzmatazz black trump supporter hell
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amber area alpha
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  10/06/21
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  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Brindle sweet tailpipe

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle market son of senegal

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: bearded tattoo



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: bearded tattoo



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: vibrant fortuitous meteor

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Offensive wonderful hairy legs

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Martin Skhreli ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Indigo telephone

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: bearded tattoo



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: stubborn heaven



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Indigo telephone

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Orchid library

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Copper Floppy Depressive



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: bearded tattoo

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: cyan ratface institution

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: sticky space people who are hurt

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Soul-stirring black woman kitchen

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: vibrant fortuitous meteor

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Indigo telephone

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Copper Floppy Depressive



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: stubborn heaven



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Trip foreskin

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: bearded tattoo



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle market son of senegal



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: stubborn heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253628)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: stubborn heaven

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Soul-stirring black woman kitchen



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: alcoholic temple kitty



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: stubborn heaven



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: alcoholic temple kitty



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Talking step-uncle's house

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: metal public bath macaca

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: metal public bath macaca

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: alcoholic temple kitty



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Cerise Fat Ankles

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: magenta rebellious roommate police squad

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: big-titted bawdyhouse round eye



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: stubborn heaven



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: greedy dog poop community account

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: hot corner mexican

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: territorial mediation quadroon

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: territorial mediation quadroon

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: maroon supple pocket flask

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: big-titted bawdyhouse round eye



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: greedy dog poop community account

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: maroon supple pocket flask

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: aqua athletic conference orchestra pit

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: maroon supple pocket flask

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: aqua athletic conference orchestra pit

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: hot corner mexican

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: seedy stage

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Azure internet-worthy party of the first part

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: amber area alpha



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: translucent crackhouse

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: razzmatazz black trump supporter hell



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