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Hypo: 40 days to gain or lose 40 pounds for $4M

You have 40 days to weigh in at either 40 pounds more or 40 ...
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
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Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
it depends on the conditions for the weigh-in prior to tryin...
Sadistic native
  04/28/25
No tricks on the front end. They're weighing you right now. ...
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
Gain. I can do it, no problem.
marvelous twinkling bbw space
  04/28/25
A pound a day is a lot. What's your strategy?
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
I’m currently 45 lbs below my heaviest. I will sit st...
marvelous twinkling bbw space
  04/28/25
So, eat 5500 calories a day instead of 2000 ? Easy. 40 d...
vengeful famous landscape painting piazza
  04/28/25
you're generally not going to gain 1lb of weight just by eat...
Sadistic native
  04/28/25
This seems impossible either way
Spectacular cuck nibblets
  04/28/25
just do 4000 excess calories for day for 40 days nbd
Ocher temple doctorate
  04/28/25
Sounds easy when you put it that way. I think it would take ...
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
i would think your organs would explode after a couple weeks...
Ocher temple doctorate
  04/28/25
Nah, tons of obesemos live like this every day for decades. ...
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
75 isn't a bad run at all for an obesemo. those extra 10-15 ...
Ocher temple doctorate
  04/28/25
How are these 75 year old Americans losing weight fast? The...
cerebral magenta psychic
  04/28/25
Could I use insulin and/or anabolic steroids (or similar com...
Titillating violent antidepressant drug
  04/28/25
No, that's too far into PEDs against the spirit of the Hypo....
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
Yeah. Losing 40lbs would be "harder" but have a mu...
Titillating violent antidepressant drug
  04/28/25
Exfoliating dead skin is fine. 40 day water fast would b...
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
I have very little fat to lose, but here's how it would brea...
Titillating violent antidepressant drug
  04/28/25
What do you think you'd weigh at day 10? 20? 30? Last 10 ...
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
when i was 20 i wouldve done this. not now.
glittery immigrant hospital
  04/28/25
For four million?
marvelous twinkling bbw space
  04/28/25
nope
glittery immigrant hospital
  04/28/25
What do i get for doing both back to back?
Hairless brethren church
  04/28/25
i don't know if im capable of putting on more weight , maybe...
trip lilac location
  04/28/25
lmao how the fuck do you weigh 265 lbs
Spectacular cuck nibblets
  04/28/25
He resembles Brock Lesnar
provocative station sweet tailpipe
  04/28/25
Sounds like you may be a good candidate for the lose 40 poun...
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
i weigh 160 lbs. i dont think i could do either.
racy generalized bond
  04/28/25
Why not? Gaining 40 pounds should by feasible? It's just a f...
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
I dont know, I have never weighed more than 175 lbs. Not sur...
racy generalized bond
  04/28/25
I’m just going to do this for free
fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
  04/28/25
Current weight?
Spectacular cuck nibblets
  04/28/25
369
fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
  04/28/25
I don't think you have what it takes the break four bills du...
Spectacular cuck nibblets
  04/28/25
...
Cracking Offensive Trust Fund Lodge
  04/28/25
He lives in Houston. He probably can’t walk to his mai...
Smoky black woman point
  04/28/25
you could literally take a shit and lose 40 lbs it doesnt co...
glittery immigrant hospital
  04/28/25
fucking lol
Swollen ticket booth candlestick maker
  04/29/25
Have you irl hit these numbers in 40 day periods?
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  04/28/25
I can lose 40 lbs in 40 days.
fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
  04/28/25
you haven't been able to do it in 4 years
green ceo meetinghouse
  05/03/25
I lost 80 pounds in about 10 weeks 2 years ago.
fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
  05/03/25
...
Confused hot community account
  05/03/25
...
marvelous twinkling bbw space
  05/03/25
Update: 356 lbs
fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
  05/02/25
Good luck. What's your strategy?
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  05/03/25
I didn't eat for 2 days. Tonight I ate about 2500 calories, ...
fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
  05/03/25
Whoa we’re half way there!
fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
  05/05/25
...
Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin
  05/05/25
I’d rather take my chances with the free throws
Canary insecure turdskin karate
  04/28/25
i wouldn't do it. I'm not fat enough to shed a cool 40 lbs n...
Wonderful useless brakes theatre
  04/28/25
Now these hypos about $4 million as if it’s a decent s...
motley arrogant half-breed step-uncle's house
  04/28/25
With $4m I could afford to get my gutters fixed and my floor...
fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
  04/28/25
Maybe a cloak or a cape to finally bask in your height?
motley arrogant half-breed step-uncle's house
  04/28/25
I think I could pull this off. I lost 25 pounds in ~2 weeks ...
crystalline roast beef dilemma
  04/28/25
Wife is due in a few weeks. Can I sign her up?
soggy vigorous circlehead affirmative action
  04/29/25
Paddy did it in a week https://brobible.com/sports/articl...
crystalline roast beef dilemma
  04/29/25
I could easily lose it.
Swollen ticket booth candlestick maker
  04/29/25
absolutely gaining I'm gonna jump on roids + mk677, st...
Confused hot community account
  05/03/25


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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

You have 40 days to weigh in at either 40 pounds more or 40 pounds less than you weigh right now. If you succeed, you get $4M tax free.

Do you go for it? Do you try to lose weight or gain weight? What's your strategy?

No surgeries or supplements designed or marketed to make people gain or lose weight are allowed. Smoking would be OK. Ozempic would not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887728)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887844)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: Sadistic native

it depends on the conditions for the weigh-in prior to trying to gain. 40+lbs from normal unprepped weight would be hellish. however, if you can do a wrestling-style cut and weight-making routine prior to the challenge, it would be a lot more realistic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887854)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

No tricks on the front end. They're weighing you right now.

The weigh in 40 days from now you can game by loading up on water and a big meal or dehydrating yourself or whatever.

Are you in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887881)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: marvelous twinkling bbw space

Gain. I can do it, no problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887860)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:40 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

A pound a day is a lot. What's your strategy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887885)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 5:36 PM
Author: marvelous twinkling bbw space

I’m currently 45 lbs below my heaviest. I will sit still and eat. Ben and Jerry’s every night. I’ll probably feel miserable but I am confident I can get there with a few days to spare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888215)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: vengeful famous landscape painting piazza

So, eat 5500 calories a day instead of 2000 ?

Easy. 40 days, 40 bloomin' onions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887862)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: Sadistic native

you're generally not going to gain 1lb of weight just by eating a theoretical pound of excess calories, though. there are a lot of digestive inefficiencies and adaptations. if you try to overstuff yourself to pack on weight, you might actually do the opposite (at least for periods of time) and start shitting everything out involuntarily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887874)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: Spectacular cuck nibblets

This seems impossible either way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887863)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:37 PM
Author: Ocher temple doctorate

just do 4000 excess calories for day for 40 days nbd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887865)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

Sounds easy when you put it that way. I think it would take more than that.

Bloomins Onion are 1900 calories each. I don't think if I ate my normal diet plus 2 of those a day that I'd hit an extra 40 pounds in 40 days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887898)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: Ocher temple doctorate

i would think your organs would explode after a couple weeks but who knows. you could also eat a pint of ice cream every day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887902)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:49 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

Nah, tons of obesemos live like this every day for decades. Adding 40 pounds to an otherwise healthy and in shape person wouldn't be so terrible on the organs.

Interesting to note that the American obesity rate hovers around 50% until 75 years old, when it falls off a cliff.

https://www.wihealthatlas.org/obesity/age

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887915)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:50 PM
Author: Ocher temple doctorate

75 isn't a bad run at all for an obesemo. those extra 10-15 years healthymos get are sps anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887923)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 5:18 PM
Author: cerebral magenta psychic

How are these 75 year old Americans losing weight fast? The answer may surprise you!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888174)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: Titillating violent antidepressant drug

Could I use insulin and/or anabolic steroids (or similar compounds)?

Could I drink unusually large amount of liquids before the weigh ins?

Could I dehydrate before the weigh-in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887880)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

No, that's too far into PEDs against the spirit of the Hypo.

You can over hydrate or dehydrate all you want before the final weigh in 40 days from now. The first weigh in would be immediate, so no time to do anything.

Are you in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887903)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:50 PM
Author: Titillating violent antidepressant drug

Yeah. Losing 40lbs would be "harder" but have a much higher likelihood of success, assuming compliance.

I'd do a 40 day water + electrolyte fast, walk 4-5 hours per day, and the day before the weigh-in dehydrate like an MMA fighter.

Can I also do an ammonia bath and exfoliate off my top dead layers of skin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887921)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

Exfoliating dead skin is fine.

40 day water fast would be brutal. And likely unnecessary. You could probably make it doing a few 2 days fasts with 400 calorie days between.

Lots of walking is crazy, but ljl at doing it on day 30 of a strict fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887956)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:56 PM
Author: Titillating violent antidepressant drug

I have very little fat to lose, but here's how it would break down:

-10 lbs of intramuscular water + glycogen lost the first week as I get into solid ketosis.

-13 lbs of muscle lost. I lift everyday and I'm lean, so when I stop lifting regularly muscle drops off fast.

-11 lbs fat loss

-6 lbs lost in final few days through dehydration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887943)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

What do you think you'd weigh at day 10? 20? 30?

Last 10 pounds would be the hardest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887976)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:40 PM
Author: glittery immigrant hospital

when i was 20 i wouldve done this. not now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887882)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:40 PM
Author: marvelous twinkling bbw space

For four million?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887889)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: glittery immigrant hospital

nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887931)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:50 PM
Author: Hairless brethren church

What do i get for doing both back to back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887918)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: trip lilac location

i don't know if im capable of putting on more weight , maybe I can get up to 280 , but getting to 305 pounds in 40 days would be a difficult

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887926)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: Spectacular cuck nibblets

lmao how the fuck do you weigh 265 lbs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887957)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: provocative station sweet tailpipe

He resembles Brock Lesnar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888157)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:04 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

Sounds like you may be a good candidate for the lose 40 pounds half of this hypo, friend. That would be easier for a big guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887962)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: racy generalized bond

i weigh 160 lbs. i dont think i could do either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887938)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

Why not? Gaining 40 pounds should by feasible? It's just a few thousand extra calories per day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887967)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: racy generalized bond

I dont know, I have never weighed more than 175 lbs. Not sure I could physically put on 40 pounds in that time frame. Not sure I could physically eat that much food. Maybe my intestines are smaller or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888107)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 3:56 PM
Author: fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe

I’m just going to do this for free

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887944)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: Spectacular cuck nibblets

Current weight?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887958)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:56 PM
Author: fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe

369

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888121)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Spectacular cuck nibblets

I don't think you have what it takes the break four bills dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888123)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: Cracking Offensive Trust Fund Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888218)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: Smoky black woman point

He lives in Houston. He probably can’t walk to his mail box without seeking a person who weighs over 400 lbs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888641)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 5:05 PM
Author: glittery immigrant hospital

you could literally take a shit and lose 40 lbs it doesnt count at your weight. the op was for normal peole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888133)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 3:49 PM
Author: Swollen ticket booth candlestick maker

fucking lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48891024)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

Have you irl hit these numbers in 40 day periods?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48887963)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe

I can lose 40 lbs in 40 days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888064)



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Date: May 3rd, 2025 8:59 PM
Author: green ceo meetinghouse

you haven't been able to do it in 4 years



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48902057)



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Date: May 3rd, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe

I lost 80 pounds in about 10 weeks 2 years ago.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48902073)



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Date: May 3rd, 2025 9:21 PM
Author: Confused hot community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48902093)



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Date: May 3rd, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: marvelous twinkling bbw space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48902095)



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Date: May 2nd, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
Subject: Update: 356 lbs

Just a quick update for you guys. I started on this journey because of this thread on 4/28. Today is 5/3 and I am down 13 pounds from 369. I expect that I’ll be able to get to 329 by mid June.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48898648)



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Date: May 3rd, 2025 7:58 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin

Good luck. What's your strategy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48901949)



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Date: May 3rd, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe

I didn't eat for 2 days. Tonight I ate about 2500 calories, but only about 20 percent of that was carbs.

I should get to half way sometime this week (249 pounds)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48902034)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe
Subject: Whoa we’re half way there!

349lbs. Down 20. 20 more to go. 32 days to do it in. LFG!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48906374)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:18 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Regret Foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48906905)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: Canary insecure turdskin karate

I’d rather take my chances with the free throws

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888158)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: Wonderful useless brakes theatre

i wouldn't do it. I'm not fat enough to shed a cool 40 lbs no problem and id rather look good at the beach than be fat as fuck wifh some extra cash

cutting 40 lbs is probably pretty easy if you're fat. Take tons of ozempic, drink water (so you don't retain it), eat no salt and exercise. You dump tons of water and fat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888183)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: motley arrogant half-breed step-uncle's house

Now these hypos about $4 million as if it’s a decent sum of money. Lol I remember when my mom’s cousin used to give me and my cousins $20 and an Easter bunny for Easter. On Easter that used to be a great gift. That $20 then feels like what $4 million is to me now. Theres your answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888680)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: fuchsia organic girlfriend giraffe

With $4m I could afford to get my gutters fixed and my floor repaired from the water damage. Possibly pay off the mortgage itself too. That’d be a huge relief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888689)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: motley arrogant half-breed step-uncle's house

Maybe a cloak or a cape to finally bask in your height?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888701)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: crystalline roast beef dilemma

I think I could pull this off. I lost 25 pounds in ~2 weeks when I had covid. Could hit that and then just do a 15 pound water weight cut in the sauna

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48888714)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: soggy vigorous circlehead affirmative action

Wife is due in a few weeks. Can I sign her up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48889807)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 3:26 PM
Author: crystalline roast beef dilemma

Paddy did it in a week

https://brobible.com/sports/article/paddy-pimblett-ufc-miami-fight/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48890982)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: Swollen ticket booth candlestick maker

I could easily lose it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48891022)



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Date: May 3rd, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: Confused hot community account

absolutely

gaining

I'm gonna jump on roids + mk677, start eating 8,000 kcal/day

easy money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717590&forum_id=2)#48902062)