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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Flushed stubborn shrine
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
transparent menage
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
transparent menage
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Confused corner double fault
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
provocative goyim foreskin
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
umber love of her life
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
arousing institution wrinkle
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
arousing institution wrinkle
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
arousing institution wrinkle
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Slap-happy unholy stag film
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
mentally impaired alpha
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
shivering den
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Flushed stubborn shrine
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Boyish vengeful philosopher-king pit
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Deranged son of senegal reading party
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
iridescent roast beef
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Flushed stubborn shrine
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
fishy range haunted graveyard
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/26/25
...
clear stage gunner
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
swashbuckling telephone
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Spectacular brunch
  06/26/25
...
Excitant fiercely-loyal friendly grandma
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
gay church building
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Lake Genital Piercing
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Slate mexican rigpig
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Lake Genital Piercing
  06/27/25
How was penn?
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
umber love of her life
  06/27/25
...
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
very tactful patrolman
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Lake Genital Piercing
  06/27/25
...
Racy embarrassed to the bone site
  06/27/25
...
pearl parlour coffee pot
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Slate mexican rigpig
  06/27/25
How is STB?
umber love of her life
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Stimulating henna background story jew
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
swashbuckling telephone
  06/27/25
...
aphrodisiac school
  06/27/25
...
Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Flushed stubborn shrine

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: transparent menage

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: transparent menage

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Confused corner double fault

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: provocative goyim foreskin

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: umber love of her life

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: arousing institution wrinkle

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: arousing institution wrinkle

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: arousing institution wrinkle

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Slap-happy unholy stag film

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: mentally impaired alpha

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: shivering den

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Flushed stubborn shrine

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Boyish vengeful philosopher-king pit

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Deranged son of senegal reading party

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: iridescent roast beef

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Flushed stubborn shrine

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: fishy range haunted graveyard

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: clear stage gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: swashbuckling telephone

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Spectacular brunch

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Excitant fiercely-loyal friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: gay church building

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Lake Genital Piercing

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Slate mexican rigpig

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Lake Genital Piercing

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: umber love of her life

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: very tactful patrolman

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Lake Genital Piercing

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Racy embarrassed to the bone site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: pearl parlour coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Slate mexican rigpig

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: umber love of her life

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Stimulating henna background story jew

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: swashbuckling telephone

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: aphrodisiac school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Cowardly avocado circlehead hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053817)