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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law...
bistre sadistic shitlib stead
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
beta motley sanctuary
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Maize vigorous electric furnace idiot
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
beta motley sanctuary
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Maize vigorous electric furnace idiot
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Primrose lodge pervert
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Histrionic Shrine
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
beta motley sanctuary
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
passionate pozpig abode
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
apoplectic pisswyrm chapel
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Smoky Market Double Fault
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
beta motley sanctuary
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Smoky Market Double Fault
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Smoky Market Double Fault
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
beta motley sanctuary
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
slap-happy station
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
beta motley sanctuary
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
beta motley sanctuary
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
beta motley sanctuary
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Bonkers reading party
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
useless senate
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
passionate pozpig abode
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
beta motley sanctuary
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
bistre sadistic shitlib stead
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
beta motley sanctuary
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Federal insane office
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
bull headed forum sound barrier
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Demanding selfie
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
bistre sadistic shitlib stead
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
cruel-hearted field potus
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
beta motley sanctuary
  06/26/25
...
French area
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
sticky box office prole
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
razzle locus blood rage
  06/26/25
...
Lilac razzle-dazzle cuck dysfunction
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Up-to-no-good burgundy fortuitous meteor community account
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Excitant ebony codepig library
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Bipolar lascivious police squad messiness
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
beta motley sanctuary
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Excitant ebony codepig library
  06/27/25
How was penn?
beta motley sanctuary
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
passionate pozpig abode
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
apoplectic pisswyrm chapel
  06/27/25
...
beta motley sanctuary
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
orange vivacious weed whacker plaza
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Excitant ebony codepig library
  06/27/25
...
Dashing stubborn mexican locale
  06/27/25
...
beta motley sanctuary
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Bipolar lascivious police squad messiness
  06/27/25
How is STB?
apoplectic pisswyrm chapel
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Garnet partner coffee pot
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
passionate pozpig abode
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
sticky box office prole
  06/27/25
...
drab hunting ground
  06/27/25
...
passionate pozpig abode
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: bistre sadistic shitlib stead

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Maize vigorous electric furnace idiot

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Maize vigorous electric furnace idiot

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Primrose lodge pervert

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Histrionic Shrine

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: passionate pozpig abode

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: apoplectic pisswyrm chapel

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Smoky Market Double Fault

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Smoky Market Double Fault

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Smoky Market Double Fault

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: slap-happy station

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Bonkers reading party

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: useless senate

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: passionate pozpig abode

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: bistre sadistic shitlib stead

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Federal insane office

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: bull headed forum sound barrier

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Demanding selfie

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: bistre sadistic shitlib stead

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: cruel-hearted field potus

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: French area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: sticky box office prole

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: razzle locus blood rage

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Lilac razzle-dazzle cuck dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good burgundy fortuitous meteor community account

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Excitant ebony codepig library

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Bipolar lascivious police squad messiness

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Excitant ebony codepig library

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: beta motley sanctuary

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: passionate pozpig abode

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: apoplectic pisswyrm chapel

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: beta motley sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: orange vivacious weed whacker plaza

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Excitant ebony codepig library

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Dashing stubborn mexican locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: beta motley sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Bipolar lascivious police squad messiness

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: apoplectic pisswyrm chapel

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Garnet partner coffee pot

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: passionate pozpig abode

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: sticky box office prole

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: drab hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: passionate pozpig abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2)#49053817)