\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Epstein question. Do we think he killed himself?

Options: 1. He is so loyal to his handlers that he killed...
Brindle roast beef plaza
  07/16/25
go back to MPC
Translucent heaven personal credit line
  07/16/25
What about he was facing life in prison, endless civil suits...
appetizing drab legend public bath
  07/16/25
I don't have any particular 'theory of the case' but I imagi...
at-the-ready university tattoo
  07/16/25
Cthulu?
overrated love of her life church building
  07/16/25
i am beginning to sense that Epstein being murdered is the R...
infuriating stimulating institution
  07/16/25
One of those situations where circumstantial evidence is ove...
Smoky Mediation Generalized Bond
  07/16/25
Can you ask grok what he thinks?
Brass Rigor Party Of The First Part
  07/16/25
3. He never died.
Awkward patrolman resort
  07/16/25
...
rambunctious zippy selfie
  07/16/25
...
sadistic garnet boiling water
  07/16/25
it’s insane to believe that this man was running perha...
rambunctious zippy selfie
  07/16/25
If he was a loyal intelligence set, maybe he did kill himsel...
Brindle roast beef plaza
  07/16/25
agreed, but this would mean he wasn’t “running&r...
rambunctious zippy selfie
  07/16/25
He killed himself out of shame upon realizing that ghislaine...
puce medicated son of senegal
  07/16/25
...
at-the-ready university tattoo
  07/16/25
If you think he didn’t kill himself then you need to e...
appetizing drab legend public bath
  07/16/25
That part of the story is almost never brought up. Two week...
Passionate transparent temple pocket flask
  07/16/25
do you think it would be harder to stage a suicide or enter ...
rambunctious zippy selfie
  07/16/25
This guy tried to kill him, that’s where the bruises c...
Slimy stead
  07/16/25
Yes. Trump would never lie
jade box office new version
  07/16/25
Sometimes the government is obligated to lie or keep secrets...
Brindle roast beef plaza
  07/16/25
esp about raping American kids. We wouldnt want the truth to...
jade box office new version
  07/16/25
These weren't kids or pedophile stuff. These girls were 16+.
Brindle roast beef plaza
  07/16/25
So if no crime, why cover up? You can fuck 16-17 abroad.
jade box office new version
  07/16/25
cuz government are our betters and we must kiss the ring and...
Slate Tantric Locale
  07/16/25
(thomas jefferson)
Slate Tantric Locale
  07/16/25
he was clearly killed
Sapphire duck-like hell
  07/16/25
Hell to the NO
mind-boggling sandwich gas station
  07/16/25
Define "killed." I think the most likely explanati...
Blue property dragon
  07/16/25
What is this "we" bullshit? This isn't some kind o...
comical disrespectful crackhouse gaming laptop
  07/16/25
Epstein was only the second successful “suicide”...
Slimy stead
  07/16/25
Isn't it interesting that they waited until daytime, then wh...
sable space rigpig
  07/16/25
necessary state hit, he knew too many judges and politicians...
Orchid provocative indian lodge
  07/16/25
imo he is too rich and jewish to be killed and to kill himse...
exciting step-uncle's house
  07/16/25
otoh, people accused of sex crimes involving minors or young...
Lascivious tanning salon
  07/16/25


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: Brindle roast beef plaza

Options:

1. He is so loyal to his handlers that he killed himself in jail.

2. He was killed.

3. He didn't die when he was reported to die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105489)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: Translucent heaven personal credit line

go back to MPC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105517)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: appetizing drab legend public bath

What about he was facing life in prison, endless civil suits, and a stained very-public reputation, so he killed himself to avoid those consequences?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105827)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: at-the-ready university tattoo

I don't have any particular 'theory of the case' but I imagine the suicide was allowed to happen (vs someone slipping in and assassinating him)

Whether that was from his own depression, his loyalty to someone else, or some sort of occult or technological or psychological control, I have no idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105496)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 12:25 PM
Author: overrated love of her life church building

Cthulu?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105771)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: infuriating stimulating institution

i am beginning to sense that Epstein being murdered is the Reddit Opinion, so I am now on team Epstein Killed Himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105500)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: Smoky Mediation Generalized Bond

One of those situations where circumstantial evidence is overwhelmingly against, but because there is no direct evidence proponents of the suicide claim can just stigmatize doubters as insane, and constantly demand direct evidence

Circumstantial evidence:

- Very hard to physically kill self in suicide prevention cells in fed detention. Clothes and sheets are rip-away. Beds are short.

- This was most famous inmate in history of fed custody, whose well-being would be primary concern of entire administration

- Credible testimony from lawyer that JE was in good spirits

- Objective evidence that JE was actively preparing for trial

- Multiple layers of failsafes: Multiple cameras, multiple guards. Each and every layer happened to fail simultaneously

- Less credible testimonial evidence of unusual activity at jail. Transport van arriving on weekend, not typical. Van not being signed in, not typical, etc.

Contextualize all of the above with the general suspicion, supported by the Palm Beach's DA on the record testimony ("he's with intelligence"), that JE was involved in secret state activities which means powerful forces would WANT him dead.

So you have motive, and a ton of circumstantial evidence.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105503)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Brass Rigor Party Of The First Part

Can you ask grok what he thinks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105762)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: Awkward patrolman resort

3. He never died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105579)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: rambunctious zippy selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105580)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: sadistic garnet boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105830)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: rambunctious zippy selfie

it’s insane to believe that this man was running perhaps the largest blackmail scheme in human history involving billionaires and heads of state and his only recourse once arrested via typical channels was to kill himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105582)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: Brindle roast beef plaza

If he was a loyal intelligence set, maybe he did kill himself. I don't know but it is possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105586)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: rambunctious zippy selfie

agreed, but this would mean he wasn’t “running” the operation, which should imply new and deeper questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105592)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: puce medicated son of senegal

He killed himself out of shame upon realizing that ghislaine maxwell is a reddit moderator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105583)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: at-the-ready university tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105588)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: appetizing drab legend public bath

If you think he didn’t kill himself then you need to explain his failed suicide attempt 2 weeks before he died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105585)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: Passionate transparent temple pocket flask

That part of the story is almost never brought up. Two weeks before he allegedly kills himself he’s found in his cell with bruises around his neck. They put him on suicide watch, per protocols, which requires heightened surveillance. Two weeks later he’s dead by suicide. In the interim he’d been working with his lawyers in preparation for his bail hearing (I think) and felt optimistic that he would be released because of the broad agreement that was in place as part of his prior conviction. But then security completely lapsed one night and he decided to lull himself again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106078)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: rambunctious zippy selfie

do you think it would be harder to stage a suicide or enter a failed suicide attempt into the record?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106346)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: Slimy stead

This guy tried to kill him, that’s where the bruises came from.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/us/nicholas-tartaglione-sentenced-epstein-cellmate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106379)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: jade box office new version

Yes. Trump would never lie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105765)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Brindle roast beef plaza

Sometimes the government is obligated to lie or keep secrets and we have to accept that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105780)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: jade box office new version

esp about raping American kids. We wouldnt want the truth to come out and upset people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105829)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: Brindle roast beef plaza

These weren't kids or pedophile stuff. These girls were 16+.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106042)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: jade box office new version

So if no crime, why cover up? You can fuck 16-17 abroad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106074)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Slate Tantric Locale

cuz government are our betters and we must kiss the ring and bless their kiddie sex

it's the ideal that birthed our nation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106076)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 1:52 PM
Author: Slate Tantric Locale

(thomas jefferson)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105986)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: Sapphire duck-like hell

he was clearly killed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105840)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 1:13 PM
Author: mind-boggling sandwich gas station

Hell to the NO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49105863)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: Blue property dragon

Define "killed." I think the most likely explanation was that his jailers knew that he was suicidal and also hated him as a pedo, so they gave him the proverbial rope to hang himself. It is weird, though, that the "full security video" was very obviously edited. I still think the most likely explanation was that the full video showed that they left a sheet or something for him to hang himself with, but it is still strange.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106243)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: comical disrespectful crackhouse gaming laptop

What is this "we" bullshit? This isn't some kind of hive consciousness

I'm open to various things, but one of the ones I'm not is suicide. That's fucking ridiculous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106372)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Slimy stead

Epstein was only the second successful “suicide” in 40 years at MCC.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/epstein-new-york-lockup-suicides

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106388)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: sable space rigpig

Isn't it interesting that they waited until daytime, then wheeled his body, out of a bodybag, face uncovered, out in public so a well-placed photographer could capture a picture of said body, proving that he was, in fact, dead and had not, instead, walked out of jail and into a new chapter of his clearly very well connected life?

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/08/epstein-body.jpg

https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/jeffrey-epsteins-death-three-years-later-what-we-know-and-whats-still-a-mystery/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106448)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Orchid provocative indian lodge

necessary state hit, he knew too many judges and politicians inside the system, I gather that the reason that public officials are freaking out about releasing the list is that SCOTUS are involved, foreign "dignitaries" etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106449)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 5:00 PM
Author: exciting step-uncle's house

imo he is too rich and jewish to be killed and to kill himself

only possibility imo is body double + went back to israel to chill and retire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106454)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Lascivious tanning salon

otoh, people accused of sex crimes involving minors or young women often killself, before or after they go to jail.

otoh, inmates had an incentive to kill him regardless of the Mossad-IC angle.

otthirdhand, IC and Mossad had an incentive to have him killed.

otfourthhand, he could have accepted his fate for the greater good and either killedself or didn't fight when the inmate offed him.

how can we really know at this point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2)#49106473)